Hiruzen Cup: Round 1 Jiraiya vs. Uchiha Itachi

[hahonryuu]

Originally Posted by codecatx5

Thank you but umm I forgot exactly where but I remember Ma or Pa or Naruto saying that using sage chakra doesn't draw from your own so instead of it tiring you out you actually gain more strength as you gather it without losing your own.

sage chakra is made from mixing natural energy with your own chakra...using sage chakra MUST draw from your own supply, otherwise it wouldnt be sage chakra, just natural energy. and even if that werent the case, how would that make you stronger?

[codecatx5]

Originally Posted by hahonryuu

sage chakra is made from mixing natural energy with your own chakra...using sage chakra MUST draw from your own supply, otherwise it wouldnt be sage chakra, just natural energy. and even if that werent the case, how would that make you stronger?

I could tell you where it is but I'm kinda feeling lazy but its around the time of naruto's training or like during the pain fight some where.

[hahonryuu]

Originally Posted by codecatx5

I could tell you where it is but I'm kinda feeling lazy but its around the time of naruto's training or like during the pain fight some where.

luckily im not feeling lazy. chapter 415, page 15 sounds like what your talking about...and your wrong slightly

"ninja techniques exhaust you since your only using your own chakra, but sage techniqes take in the natural energy from outside. so rather than become exhausted you recover more quickly"

so he didnt say you become stronger <which for reasons i explained would make 0 sense at all> he simply said you recover more quickly so even big techniques arent so taxing on your body.

ov he doesnt get stronger. we saw proof of that when naruto fought pain. he used rasenshuriken and was noticably weaker after expending so much sage chakra

[mirrormansorata]

Originally Posted by hahonryuu

luckily im not feeling lazy. chapter 415, page 15 sounds like what your talking about...and your wrong slightly

"ninja techniques exhaust you since your only using your own chakra, but sage techniqes take in the natural energy from outside. so rather than become exhausted you recover more quickly"

so he didnt say you become stronger <which for reasons i explained would make 0 sense at all> he simply said you recover more quickly so even big techniques arent so taxing on your body.

ov he doesnt get stronger. we saw proof of that when naruto fought pain. he used rasenshuriken and was noticably weaker after expending so much sage chakra

I think the point is. Sage Chakra and Natural Energy, give him a lot more staying power than Itachi. The longer the fight draws out, the larger his advantage gets.

[hahonryuu]

Originally Posted by mirrormansorata

I think the point is. Sage Chakra and Natural Energy, give him a lot more staying power than Itachi. The longer the fight draws out, the larger his advantage gets.

oh totally. im just trying to set the record straight. im on your side yo

my belief that jiraiya will win hasn't faltered even once

[codecatx5]

Originally Posted by hahonryuu

luckily im not feeling lazy. chapter 415, page 15 sounds like what your talking about...and your wrong slightly

"ninja techniques exhaust you since your only using your own chakra, but sage techniqes take in the natural energy from outside. so rather than become exhausted you recover more quickly"

so he didnt say you become stronger <which for reasons i explained would make 0 sense at all> he simply said you recover more quickly so even big techniques arent so taxing on your body.

ov he doesnt get stronger. we saw proof of that when naruto fought pain. he used rasenshuriken and was noticably weaker after expending so much sage chakra

oh so thats what he said well as long as it helps my point. Jiraiya FTW.

[Sharingan_Warrior5693]

Just one mistake I would like to point out. Hohanryuu you said that the only toad that used Ninjutusu in the Manga was Bunta, well Chapter 377 Pages 8-9 would like to say hello.

[hahonryuu]

Originally Posted by Sharingan_Warrior5693

Just one mistake I would like to point out. Hohanryuu you said that the only toad that used Ninjutusu in the Manga was Bunta, well Chapter 377 Pages 8-9 would like to say hello.

it was the anime that screwed me up. i saw another jutsu or two from those guys and i wa slike "i dont remember that happening" but didnt feel like checking since it didnt matter. so yeah i was wrong lol, but i blame the anime for making it difficult to tell whats filler and whats not

afterall, its never my fault

[Sharingan_Warrior5693]

Originally Posted by hahonryuu

it was the anime that screwed me up. i saw another jutsu or two from those guys and i wa slike "i dont remember that happening" but didnt feel like checking since it didnt matter. so yeah i was wrong lol, but i blame the anime for making it difficult to tell whats filler and whats not

afterall, its never my fault

hmmm you seem to remind me of that zankuro-whats-his-name fellow who we forced off of here a while back.

[hahonryuu]

Originally Posted by Sharingan_Warrior5693

hmmm you seem to remind me of that zankuro-whats-his-name fellow who we forced off of here a while back.

for starters, i find that insulting lol. i think ide prefer you to make fun of my mother

second of all, far from it. i actual admit im wrong. im just using the anime as a scapegoat