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The Abyss
11-12-2009, 12:14 PM
Rules

1. Deck must be atleast 50 cards it may be more and use atleast 1 copy of the following cards.
Make-Out Paradise
Make-Out Tactics
Make-Out Violence
Any copy of Jiraiya

2. All Normal Rules Apply exculding the Rouge List

3. The following are banned in this format:

Currently their is no banned or limited cards this format



6. Winning Conditions outside the rules are:
A. Having played all Make-Out cards in your deck and have all of them in your chakra area while having a Jiraiya in play.
B. Having all ninjas you have in play be growthed.

works4tacos
11-12-2009, 02:33 PM
if everyone gets growth is a win condition, ban the 3rd hokage gotv, cus play him, chump him off and all your ninjas in play have growth or use a growth mision to give the kage growth

The Abyss
11-12-2009, 02:43 PM
The list will be updated when the new set comes out as of the November 21st the following are added to the banlist


Third Hokage Govoner of the Village
The Fourth Kazekage Fortold Phophecy Super Rare
Bashfulness
Gaint Snake Fortold Phophecy
Fouth Hokage (Younger Days) Fortold Phophecy Super Rare
Leaf Academy
Sealing Barrier

shikamaru_of_hebi
11-12-2009, 03:00 PM
so you are telling me i can have 1 ninja in play then growth it the following turn and win???


woot for ftk/otk combo!



i would play 3 copies of ninja which can search for it self and just growth it the following turn

The Abyss
11-12-2009, 03:40 PM
Their is alot of possibilites in this format, their is no true meta, multiply ways to win and multiply styles for the format.

Choji_Akimunchi
12-13-2009, 12:41 AM
so I play 100% hot blooded mission and play a taijusu ninja and win on the first turn?

Saitsuofleaves
12-13-2009, 07:55 AM
I run three copies of Hinata Strong Spirit and then drop her turn 0, I win?

shakugonuchiha
12-13-2009, 03:20 PM
i was so excited but than say Jiyria and thought Aww. i have a make out deck ready to be used and you add in jyria ****

neo360shot
12-13-2009, 08:14 PM
i read this and got exited...i thought it would require a female member to play against

t0: sasuke energizing the body
t1: naruto for the friend

game?
stupid cards = victory

you should have a minimum of 5 growthd ninjas

SharinganHeir
12-14-2009, 10:36 AM
if everyone gets growth is a win condition, ban the 3rd hokage gotv, cus play him, chump him off and all your ninjas in play have growth or use a growth mision to give the kage growth

so I play 100% hot blooded mission and play a taijusu ninja and win on the first turn?

i read this and got exited...i thought it would require a female member to play against

t0: sasuke energizing the body
t1: naruto for the friend

game?
stupid cards = victory

you should have a minimum of 5 growthd ninjas

None of those are growthing a ninja, they just put growth coins on the ninja (yes, there is a difference)

Growthing a ninja requires moving a currently in-play ninja to your chakra area and replacing it with a card of the same name that has "Growth".

All those aside, that is a really stupid win condition. I agree with neo, it should have a minimum of 5 that are on the field at the same time.

Saitsuofleaves
12-14-2009, 10:42 AM
None of those are growthing a ninja, they just put growth coins on the ninja (yes, there is a difference)

Growthing a ninja requires moving a currently in-play ninja to your chakra area and replacing it with a card of the same name that has "Growth".

All those aside, that is a really stupid win condition. I agree with neo, it should have a minimum of 5 that are on the field at the same time.

Obviously, The Abyss didn't see it the same way considering he banned GoTV and Leaf Academy.

The Abyss
12-14-2009, 02:48 PM
edit is being made to the format win conditions and ban list

neo360shot
12-15-2009, 01:48 AM
None of those are growthing a ninja, they just put growth coins on the ninja (yes, there is a difference)

Growthing a ninja requires moving a currently in-play ninja to your chakra area and replacing it with a card of the same name that has "Growth".

All those aside, that is a really stupid win condition. I agree with neo, it should have a minimum of 5 that are on the field at the same time.
you must be doing something wrong...no one agrees with me...lol

That aside and seeing changes to the rules made like 20 card combos no longer game winning...but still, ban search girl hinata or make it 5+

Dalegna
12-20-2009, 02:23 PM
me and my friend played a format that if yo have all your ninjas with growth in win thats not as easy as you think but its fun as hell becoouse we banded all ninjas with growth

The Abyss
12-22-2009, 07:55 AM
me and my friend played a format that if yo have all your ninjas with growth in win thats not as easy as you think but its fun as hell becoouse we banded all ninjas with growth

That is one new rule. "All ninja`s with the Growth characteristic are banned from this format

Saitsuofleaves
12-22-2009, 02:36 PM
That is one new rule. "All ninja`s with the Growth characteristic are banned from this format

Then it's impossible to place Growth coins on everyone...so what's the point of that win condition?

MJM
12-22-2009, 04:08 PM
So you're saying almost any card that can make this format run smoothe is banned...

Saitsu: [GotV] Third Hokage would like to have a word with you...

BTW, Abyss.

It says every Ninja has to be "growthed". There is a difference between "growthed" and "place a growth coin on".

"Growthed" means to actually, physically be growthed.

"Placed a growth coin on" means to put a growth coin on by an effect.

Therefore... your game can only be won by the first Win Condition.

The Abyss
12-23-2009, 05:56 PM
exactly but i will let you guys figure out how to get around it. now think for a minute on this riddle. Atleast 8 ninja's need to have growth coins on them to win, they can not be growth ninja, but ninja can give and recieve. How does one win in this way.

MJM
12-24-2009, 09:25 AM
exactly but i will let you guys figure out how to get around it. now think for a minute on this riddle. Atleast 8 ninja's need to have growth coins on them to win, they can not be growth ninja, but ninja can give and recieve. How does one win in this way.

Third Hokage [GotV]?

Drop him while you have Aka [P], Kakashi (Any), Asuma (Any, Kurenai (Any), Guy (Any), Ninja Dog Squad, Gamabunta, and Naruto [OC]...

Do I win?

The Abyss
12-24-2009, 05:54 PM
yes want a cookie

MJM
12-24-2009, 06:45 PM
yes want a cookie

Yes can I have the whole batch? And how about some milk too? I need something to put out for Santa tonight.

BTW, are you going to the NJ Chunin at ATF?

kunoalpha
01-01-2010, 08:55 PM
The [Childhood] Ninjas count towards the jiraiya requirement in deck right?

The Abyss
01-05-2010, 12:57 PM
The [Childhood] Ninjas count towards the jiraiya requirement in deck right?

yes any verison of Jiraiya is allowed in the deck.

The Abyss
01-21-2010, 01:52 PM
Updates have been made to the ban list so check it out.

Animewolf17
03-24-2010, 04:25 PM
Are you sure you dont mean Third Hokage (Gaurdian of the Village) to be banned? Because Governor is the one that says At the beginning of your turn discard one chakra to heal one ninja.

Topside
07-04-2010, 08:14 PM
The best way to re-do this - at least in keeping with what I believe to be your intent for this format - are to make the new win conditions thus:

1) You have 10 BRs at the end of the turn.
2) Your opponent has decked out by the end of the turn.
3) You have all 3 "Make-Out" Missions in your Chakra area AFTER THEIR EFFECTS HAVE BEEN APPLIED and one Jiraya WITH AN ENTRANCE COST OF 5 OR MORE in your Village.
4) You have 5 or more Ninjas in your Village THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLAY BY THE EFFECT OF GROWTH (not necessarily with Growth coins on them).

I think by doing it this way, you can avoid most of the cheap victory possibilities others have pointed out in this thread.