Hinata Theme Discussion

[texans07]

Today's theme is up!

http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/home.php

All I can say is enjoy! :D

[N. Jolly]

And I'm in love with Hinata...thanks.

[Darth_Sideous]

Pretty cool stuff. A Vanilla Hinata!

[mastercj16]

Nice Cards. Will review later:
Platoon: Fairly Decent. Nice if comboed with new jutsu.

Hinata: ANOTHER VANILLA! Yea! A possible 5/5 in a vanilla deck on turn 3! That is sick!

Hanabi: Meh I guess.

Jutsu: Yay earth negation!

Mission: Great! Earth Draw Power on a low turn!

[ShariganEyedJack]

I am very impressed with "Debt". Earth does have a few cards that aren't entirely usefull late game so this card actually takes avantage of that. Plus with the platoons effect........Yum!

[illrockursox]

Platoon: great cycle card for jutsu.

Hinata: Vanilla. Can use the other good jutsu from neji's preview.

hanabi: Great tutor.

Emmision of Chakra: not bad negation

Debt: finally some good early draw for Earth.

[Hiei_Zero]

All of them are fantastic cards. I am still personally a fan of the old hanabi but good still.

[Boxboy7]

I love this theme! But I also love Hinata.

Not that impressed with the platoon, I was hoping for a Hinata/Naruto one...

Hanabi, the Jutsu and the mission are great. Hinata is cool too, but I'd tutor out the healing one.

[DNaraku]

Platoon - I'll stick with the new Hiashi.

Vanilla Hinata - Bleck.

Hanabi - Agreed with Bruce. I'll stick with the old one.

Emission - Really nice.

Debt - Pretty cool.

Texans, you over hype things too much. I was expecting an amazing theme, or more specifically, an amazing Hinata.

[Rawr]

Platoon - New Hiashi is better.

Vanilla Hinata - I'll wait for a better one to come out...

Hanabi - Decent.

Emission - Don't like it all to much but i see the use.

Debt - Excited about it.

[kisamealex3]

Wow...this is crazy good. The platoon is basically an Earth Jiraya. Then the draw mission is great. I LOVE THE JUTSU!! One of the best negations IMO...I guess...All I know is that Earth really needed it. Great negation. Then the Hinabi is an awsome turn 0 drop...I cant wait for this set. Earth is definatly top tier at this point.

[jasenjr]

The only really good cards here were the draw mission and the emission. New Hiashi is PRO compared to the platoon. Id rather splash Jiraya and Naruto to make it work that way, without giving up my good ninja..

And the draw mission is on the same turn as the Search mission Jerry made...this shoulda been turn 1 =]

[Naruto_Fan_19]

I have mixed feelings about this preview.

Hinata/Hiashi - Nice platoon, it's the J-Man thrown onto a Byakugan cards which is nice but it makes me have to decide if I want Hiashi or this platoon. This platoon is a nice way to keep pulling the new Neji's effect off though.

Hinata - Lol she's vanilla. She makes me think about making an Earth/Lightning Hyuga deck. With line of supposrts late game like The Fourth Hokage, Natsuhi, and Arashi, I can throw in some Iruka [AA]'s and pump Hinata and Arashi up. If I have room, I may even throw in Pakkun. It's an idea :rolleyes:

Hanabi - I like the old one more seeing as how when I tutor something, I'd like to play it that very turn. Not a bad Hanabi though.

Emmision of Chakra - Now this I like. It can negate anything for the same cost. It's solid negation for Earth. I like it more than the old Gentle Fist back from ER.

Debt - The best part I like about the card without making it broken is THEN discard 2 cards. I really like the draw. If I draw crap, I'll discard it :p

Overall, I REALLY like the Hyuga support this set. Thanks a lot Bandai for making such wonderful cards for Byakugan and Earth. I have my hopes set for Lightning and Water weeks and I know you won't let me down :)......cuz the previews on Pojo have :(

[vinced]

FINALLY DRAW POWER!!
graceful charity!! haha

[SharinganHeir]

I like the new platoon. Byakugan has their own form of Jiraiya.

I'm not excited about the new Hinata. She has decent stats, but I don't care for vanillas and depending on the deck, I would probably prefer [Ointment] or a turn 0 Hinata.

I prefer the old Hanabi. -1 Entrance Cost to all Hyugas beats searching Hinata.

Really like the Jutsu. Most of the time it will be a cheaper negation than Gentle Fist because people try to keep their jutsu costs at 1-2.

Debt is a long-needed card. I'll definitely be putting 3 in my deck, unless something better comes along.

[suzaku kururugi]

omg hinata can 6/6 on T3!

[Gaara_]

Holy snizz! Hinata, less characteristic, por favor!

[beastnino]

really liked this theme, its the backup for the neji theme.
not sure about running platoon, but i feel like running becuz once my opponents hand is really low, i'll leave it up to neji to get rid of it and ill just keep getting the jutsus back

[Pelo]

Good preview, but I see, I don't like these cards as much as you guys :P
Platoon - great! Now I can run Neji and search for jutsu for him, and use Hiashi from another preview. Oh, wait... he's on that platoon.
Hinata - nice stats, but I'm counting for another in this set with cool effect
Hinabi - nice tutor, if Hinata would be better
Negation - do I understand it right? For vortex you need to pay 3 earth, but for Rasengan only 2? In your face, Naruto! :D
Debt - in the end you have 1 card less in hand, but still good draw in late game when you 0 drop in hand.

I am complaining a bit, but don't misunderstand me. These cards are pretty good.

[Shino'sDad]

omg hinata can 6/6 on T3!

T0 Hinabi.. T1 Pakkun... T2 Iruka.. T3 Hinata.. T4 Arashi.. T5 Asuma

Yeah, that's pretty cool.

[Kakashi_Hatake777]

HINATA FANBOY SQUEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! The vanilla Hinata is to die for. Must collect foil and non-foil copies!!!!!!!!!! The platoon is amazing. IoTHT for Byakugan and its valid...... yes please. Hanabi is awsome as well, tutor Hinata wow. The draw is excellent. Althought I wonder if one can search the platoon with Hanabi, I'd be inclined to think yes.

[Shino'sDad]

Althought I wonder if one can search the platoon with Hanabi, I'd be inclined to think yes.

I would be inclined to say No. She searches for a "Hinata Hyuga" in your deck. While the platoon is in your deck, it is a "Hinata Hyuga & Hiashi Hyuga" Same reason why Ninth Match cannot search out any platoon with Rock Lee attached to it, only "Rock Lee" himself.

[Bigpapi3493]

I love Debt, purely because I used to play YuGiOh and I absolutely loved abusing Graceful Charity. It's the same thing!!! :D:D:D

[LordRama94]

Debt is an earth Graceful Charity! LOL it is great. It draws a lot and you can get rid of useless cards you don't need.

The platoon is an Earth Jiraiya. It might see play.

Hanabi is a tutor! More draw power for Earth

The jutsu is alright, wouldn't want to negate a high cost jutsu.

[Kakashi_Hatake777]

Not that impressed with the platoon, I was hoping for a Hinata/Naruto one...

Oh, that would have made my whole year. For real, if we ever get a platoon like that (and we probably will) it has to be SR.

[LordRama94]

Dude we posted at the same time and we both mentioned Graceful Charity. wierd:D.

[Pelo]

Ok, back to my question.
Didn't see 'Lightning 1' :/
Now I understand...

[shikamaru pwns anyone]

ok well platoon is same as jiraiya as said already

hinata is meh

hinabi is amazing for the decktype

jutsu is really really good for type

and mission everyone seems to really like this card and yes i do as well but all other types have infinitly better draw letting you get at least 1 to 2 i mean yes its good but i hope this isnt the amazeing draw i have been hearing about

[DeadJiraiya]

Hina/Hiashi - has potential; Jiraiya Instruction for Byakugan Jutsu. Combine this with Hinata's 8 Trigrams 64 Palms for Defense and this Ninja becomes either a 13/8 Healthy or a 12/8 Injured while Blocking; AND it can fetch it back during your next turn.

Hinata - Vanillas don't interest me. Same goes for the vanilla Sasori in this set. Being able to use certain Jutsu is not enough; the Ninja itself must contribute something in and of itself without help.

That's why I've never accepted the arguments for AW NaruSaku which ultimately amount to 'the card is slightly bigger and can use Rasengan and Medical Jutsu'. Not good enough, at least in most Decks.

Hanabi - the old Hanabi is better since she can help get out her Family earlier.

Debt - Awesome. I'll be running 3 in every Earth Deck I build.

Emission - ER Gentle Fist is better because Hanabi and T0-1 Hinata can use it.
http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/cardlists_detail.php?s=6&c=jus018

Overall, the only cards I liked were the Platoon and Debt. I must say that I am VERY disappointed with Shippuden Hinata; the stats are nice, but am I really going to use her over Overcoming the Weakness, especially since Choji USF is fading out of tournaments? No.

Air Palm's not enough to convince me to do that, especially since I can just have the old Hanabi out and then get Hanabi/Hiashi or Jonin Neji out T3 anyway.

I kind of hoped for a Hinata that had another hand control effect to go with Jonin Neji and the rest of the Hyuga Hand Control theme. Oh well. On the bright side, Earth finally has good draw; not decent draw, GOOD draw. That alone is worth the disappointment.

[StormVyper]

Pros:
-Love everything.
-Yay Graceful Charity!
-Hinata looks adorable. <3

Cons:
-Platoon has bad art. :( Hiashi looks out of place.
-Hanabi would've been a lot better if she search Byakugan instead of Hinata (still a great card though).

[jasenjr]

Well, My plan is..

T0, Hanabi [old one], turn 1 [Hokages Grandson] turn 2 Neji, Turn 3 Any ninja i choose but probably Naruto OC, turn 4 Hiashi, Turn 5 Jiraya...

I like that...

[onlymymom]

I still don't really like the mission, you lose 4 and gain 3. Sure you can get rid of what you don't want but it almost feels like a negative draw.

[deathzangetsu]

OFMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
Platoon: Kicks Major Booty, Will be running six platoon

Hinata: with MP of 2. Nahaha!

Hinabi: The old one is a little better, but I got plans for this one.

Jutsu: Yah! earth negation, can be expensive though.

Mission: YU-GI-OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Zero Master Of Percision]

Has no one noticed Hinata has Main branch? Thats coolz

[jasenjr]

Has no one noticed Hinata has Main branch? Thats coolz

Didnt notice that at all, was too distraught from lack of effect text...

[shikamaru_of_hebi]

i freakin love earth week it gave me so much incentive to make a mono earth competitive =DDDD

[StormVyper]

Has no one noticed Hinata has Main branch? Thats coolz

There aren't any cards that require Main Branch yet, are there?

[StormVyper]

Didnt notice that at all, was too distraught from lack of effect text...

But don't you just wanna give her a hug?! xD

[Zero Master Of Percision]

There aren't any cards that require Main Branch yet, are there?
http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/cardlists_detail.php?s=4&c=j141
http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/cardlists_detail.php?s=4&c=j142

Both are bad, unless we get a hiashi that puts curse coins down =P

[shadowclone22]

There aren't any cards that require Main Branch yet, are there?

there are a coupple of cards that can only/can't affect main branch ninjas. sets 3-5 somewhere i think.

[deathzangetsu]

But don't you just wanna give her a hug?! xD

I could care less that she has no effect, think about how awesome she would with the diamond or wavy foiling. BANDAI!!! BRING BACK WAVY!!!!

[StormVyper]

http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/cardlists_detail.php?s=4&c=j141
http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/cardlists_detail.php?s=4&c=j142

Both are bad, unless we get a hiashi that puts curse coins down =P

Secret Mark hurts. =/

Zangetsu: INORITE?! I'm not even a Hinata fan, and even I'm excited. xD

[animefanatic]

Hanabi's not seeing enough love

[shikamaru pwns anyone]

Has no one noticed Hinata has Main branch? Thats coolz

i looked at that and im like woah i thought she wouldnt have that

[Zero Master Of Percision]

Hanabi's not seeing enough love

Yeah, I was pretty excited about moar tutor stuffs. I mean, sure searching up Hinata NOW isn't a big deal, but there will be more Hinata cards, and tutoring your curve is never wrong.

[Kisame8988]

Debt = Graceful Charity?

[shadowclone22]

when i was looking at hisashi and hinata i noticed that it only had genin meaning you can send it out durring an nvs. not to important but it could help since with old hanabi it comes out same turn as your opponets nvs.

[shikamaru pwns anyone]

Yeah, I was pretty excited about moar tutor stuffs. I mean, sure searching up Hinata NOW isn't a big deal, but there will be more Hinata cards, and tutoring your curve is never wrong.

sounds like a genma + karashi kinda thing
lol ya hinabi will be really good especially if they get a really good late game hinata

[DNaraku]

Yeah, I was pretty excited about moar tutor stuffs. I mean, sure searching up Hinata NOW isn't a big deal, but there will be more Hinata cards, and tutoring your curve is never wrong.

Right now, I'd rather bust out the new Neji on Turn 3 along with the Hanabi/Hiashi platoon for some hand shennanigans.

[deathzangetsu]

Hanabi's not seeing enough love

It might be wrong to show Hinabi love, but since I have too much time on my hands today I will make two decks today with my precious Hinabi and my darling Hinata. :D

[FinalValkyrie]

I dont think it matters what Hanabi comes out. Bein able to hit this Hinata on Turn 2 and the new Neji (Jonin lolz) on Turn 3, along with the platoon will most likely be far better than whatever Hanabi effect they can muster.

At least the art of cards is getting better.

[big_time69666]

hinata and daddy it is cool but dam spots for platoons is very tight. with neji and daddy.
hinata chunin no effect :mad: but she really did not do anything so okay. but mental come on now if she gets mental 2 neji should be mental 3 he is a genius. and if he gets it sasuke should too as both of them were consider genius.
hanabi not better then other one but might be worth one in deck to search for chunin hinata on turn 2
emission cool but :confused: the example jutsu cost does this "lightning 1" mean 1 lightning 1 any so you have to pay 2 earth to negate. this is only worth one in deck as the one gentle fist is way better but this one is better to negate low cost jutsu.
bedt gracful charity nuff said

[Pelo]

"... or 'Hinata Hyuga' as its 'Requirements'..."

New specific Jutsu, just for Hinata? Gather fanboys! :D

[ReddFox]

-Falls in <3 with Bandai all over again-

Good job Bandai, you're going to make me spend tons more money. I hope you're satisfied! :3

[Zero Master Of Percision]

Right now, I'd rather bust out the new Neji on Turn 3 along with the Hanabi/Hiashi platoon for some hand shennanigans.
you mean, super Johny style combos that happen 1 in every 3-4 games because they involve 3+ cards by a certain turn to do anything?

...No. I prefer not to waste platoon space on random junk that doesnt curve with the deck. I hear Temari kankuro = better :\


"... or 'Hinata Hyuga' as its 'Requirements'..."

New specific Jutsu, just for Hinata? Gather fanboys! :D

See: The Chosen

[Paladin_of_chaos]

Good preview, but I see, I don't like these cards as much as you guys :P
Platoon - great! Now I can run Neji and search for jutsu for him, and use Hiashi from another preview. Oh, wait... he's on that platoon.
Hinata - nice stats, but I'm counting for another in this set with cool effect
Hinabi - nice tutor, if Hinata would be better
Negation - do I understand it right? For vortex you need to pay 3 earth, but for Rasengan only 2? In your face, Naruto! :D
Debt - in the end you have 1 card less in hand, but still good draw in late game when you 0 drop in hand.

I am complaining a bit, but don't misunderstand me. These cards are pretty good.

actually, you gain +1 card. -2 for mission, +3 for effect, then -2 for effect. in the end, you still gain. Definitely a stable for earth.

[Pelo]

actually, you gain +1 card. -2 for mission, +3 for effect, then -2 for effect. in the end, you still gain. Definitely a stable for earth.
You have 6 cards, for example. -2 (mission and cost) = 4. +3 (first effect) = 7. -2 (secund effect) = 5

Zero: Right :/ Again mistaken, but still I'm counting for new Hinata's Jutsu.

[Shino'sDad]

Yeah, Debt is a +1 in the end, but you get to dig deeper into your deck and chuck the unneeded stuff.

[Paladin_of_chaos]

i still like hinata's old jutsus, but i hope she gets something more...offensive.

[Evil Shikamaru]

I think the card creator left his Yu-Gi-Oh! cards out while making debt.

"Draw mission for earth? Hmm....*stares at Graceful Charity* AHA!!! I'll use Graceful Charity, every game needs a Graceful Charity!"

But it's actually VERY GOOD in Earth considering it compliments Zetsu.
This is also why I think Naruto CoP should see play in Earth as well.
Discarding your ninja to pump your Zetsu is a beautiful thing. :)

My Mono-Earth will personally not be Byakugan based but the cards were nice I guess (Hinata based cards).

NOW LET's SEE A GOOD EARTH JUTSU THAT ISN'T SPECIFIC!!?!?! -_- Seriously, I wanted that more than I wanted draw power. Earth will now be like....I'll use....Headhunter.....or Shadow Posession....or Disguise....or DFC.......that's it. -_-

[Pelo]

Yeah, Debt is a +1 in the end, but you get to dig deeper into your deck and chuck the unneeded stuff.

6-2+3-2=
6+3-4=
6-1=
5

Guys, it's easy math... Don't confirm the american stereotype...

PS I'm not from US...

[Faris Kalin]

Oh man! I love today's preview cards. I do prefer the old honeybee to the new honeybee, though.

[Shino'sDad]

6-2+3-2=
6+3-4=
6-1=
5

Guys, it's easy math... Don't confirm the american stereotype...

Stereotypes are fun!

[Yondaime-sama]

I wonder what Hinata ever did to earn herself MP:2? O.o


Hinata/Hiashi is good but will conflict with the new Hiashi.

Hinata is good in vanilla and maybe in Hyuga since she back Neji up. Maybe splash some Irukas ftw? MP:2 is out of place though.

Hanabi is alright. Bandai took my Hanabi idea and made her kinda 'eh'. =/

I like ER Gentle Fist over Emission.

Debt = Graceful Charity ftw. Wonder if we'll be getting Dark Worlds along with this XD Graceful, discard double Broww, draw 2 cards kthx.

[jasenjr]

Oh man! I love today's preview cards. I do prefer the old honeybee to the new honeybee, though.

When did you become a mod?

[texans07]

The Platoon is primarily to fuel the new Neji.

The Mission fuels Zetsu (so does another card in Set 12 but Pojo will show that...)

Hanabi is like the "Gadgets" or "Call for Family" its good and you may see more like it in the future. ;)

The Jutsu negates Naruto Uzumaki 2K Baarage for free.

You'll see more Hinatas in the future (with effects). :)

[Shinfitz]

Wow, you can't even please all of the people SOME of the time on this site.

Are people really griping about Hinata having Mental Power?

Really?

Should they also take away her 'Byakugan' trait because in this picture she doesn't have it activated?

Some things are just done to make a card better or keep it in check. It doesn't have come strait from the pages of the manga or anime 100%

Who to say Hinata does't think in a way that warrents her having Mental Power.

Also, one person says they like the old Hinabi and almost everyone deems this one worse?

This new Hinabi sets you up great.

Play Hinabi turn zero, grab a Hinata. This Hinabi can at least tie with Choji and Kiba without growthing.

Then, when turn four or five rolls around, growth her (if still in play) and grab the new platoon as well as deploy it if that turn.

Earth didn't have good draw power before, but now with Long Awaited Reinforcements and the Hinabi, you can search your deck for the right ninja, then normally draw your justu (or use Wanted Poster or Debt).

You guys play the old Hinabi if you want and hope you draw you Byakugan ninja the turn it will matter that you have her out instead of being much more consistant with your ninja drops and give your deck more freedom to not have to play as many copies of a ninja in your deck.

Your call.

[Pelo]

Then, when turn four or five rolls around, growth her (if still in play) and grab the new platoon as well as deploy it if that turn.
Growth doesn't count as deploy, rignt?

The Jutsu negates Naruto Uzumaki 2K Baarage for free.
I though that jutsu X can't be 0...

[Nine Tails Naruto]

That hinata is great and all I hear is meh? Whatever.

The new draw is good, but a minus 1 to you hand so early makes this card playable only because its earth for earth decks.

[Evil Shikamaru]

The Platoon is primarily to fuel the new Neji.

The Mission fuels Zetsu (so does another card in Set 12 but Pojo will show that...)

Hanabi is like the "Gadgets" or "Call for Family" its good and you may see more like it in the future. ;)

The Jutsu negates Naruto Uzumaki 2K Baarage for free.

You'll see more Hinatas in the future (with effects). :)

That's what I said. The mission is perfect for Zetsu.

Which site will be previewing the Inoichi and Shikaku?

[ShadelessNyght]

Wow....Well thank you bandai. For once in a very, very, very, very, VERY long time....I am actually really considering using Earth as the actual main element and not just a slightly splashed in thing here and there.

A good T0 tutor, then solid drops all the way into t5/t6 be it your playing straight byakugan or otherwise. Should you be playing byakugan, you can even also make it viable unlike before where it can actually become a solid deck type.

Very excited for A New Chronicle now...and here I was growing attached to my Feb pay check.

[Shinfitz]

Growth doesn't count as deploy, rignt?

No, growthing a ninja does not count as your one deployed ninja for the turn, platooning doesn't count either.

Aww, man. I just noticed Hinabi has to be deployed to get her effect, not put in play.

Well, it's still a great card that's useful early and mid game.

[Pelo]

No, growthing a ninja does not count as your one deployed ninja for the turn, platooning doesn't count either.

So when you're growthing her, you can't search for Hinata, either for Platoon, because tutors like this can't search for platoons.

[Shino'sDad]

Then, when turn four or five rolls around, growth her (if still in play) and grab the new platoon as well as deploy it if that turn.


lol

1) She activates when deployed. Growthing is not a deployment.

2) She searches for a "Hinata Hyuga" Ninja card. She can't search for the platoon because the name of that Ninja card is "Hinata Hyuga & Hiashi Hyuga".

Come on man, I thought you have like a Vblog on u-tube about this game. Maybe you should read the rulebook again.

[animefanatic]

lol

1) She activates when deployed. Growthing is not a deployment.

2) She searches for a "Hinata Hyuga" Ninja card. She can't search for the platoon because the name of that Ninja card is "Hinata Hyuga & Hiashi Hyuga".

Come on man, I thought you have like a Vblog on u-tube about this game. Maybe you should read the rulebook again.

To be fair, the searching of Hinata and not the Hinata platoon is not that intuitive. I'm betting it's a very common question asked among new players.

[jasenjr]

On the consistency matters, Long Awaited reinforcement is my Tutor, sorry OLD Hanabi wins.


Majority of the cards should be run as 3 of's In A Hyuga Deck.

Originally Posted by texans07 View Post
The Platoon is primarily to fuel the new Neji.

The Mission fuels Zetsu (so does another card in Set 12 but Pojo will show that...)

Hanabi is like the "Gadgets" or "Call for Family" its good and you may see more like it in the future.

The Jutsu negates Naruto Uzumaki 2K Baarage for free.

You'll see more Hinatas in the future (with effects).

Explain how the bolded is true....If so, ill never use the Old Negation they had.

[Shinfitz]

lol

1) She activates when deployed. Growthing is not a deployment.

2) She searches for a "Hinata Hyuga" Ninja card. She can't search for the platoon because the name of that Ninja card is "Hinata Hyuga & Hiashi Hyuga".

Come on man, I thought you have like a Vblog on u-tube about this game. Maybe you should read the rulebook again.

Yeah, it was my mistake about the deployment thing, but it seems I didn't edit it in time.

[Raikiribokken]

actually, you gain +1 card. -2 for mission, +3 for effect, then -2 for effect. in the end, you still gain. Definitely a stable for earth.

Where do you get your math, man? Out of a cereal box? Unless you count the draw at the beggining of the turn (I feel sorry for you if you do) you get -1 cards in your hand when this is all finished

[Hungry_Ninja]

To be fair, the searching of Hinata and not the Hinata platoon is not that intuitive. I'm betting it's a very common question asked among new players.

pretty intuitive to me..

"Does the card have Name: Hinata Hyuga?"
"no"
"then you cant.."

[Lee_head]

I love the cards! Now that earth has a graceful charity from yugioh, it needs a fact or fiction from magic. That would be amazing!

[Raikiribokken]

On the consistency matters, Long Awaited reinforcement is my Tutor, sorry OLD Hanabi wins.


Majority of the cards should be run as 3 of's In A Hyuga Deck.

"The Jutsu can negate 2K Uzumaki Barrage for free"
Explain how the bolded is true....If so, ill never use the Old Negation they had.
Its a ruling that bandai had to make in order to clarify negation of jutsus with X (variant chakra number). In oder words, negating any Jutsu with the X can be paid with nothing (ex: The new water dragon can be negated by paying just 1 earth, whether the opponent payed just 1 for x or five, because only the water symbol in the Water dragon is concrete or specified )
get it?

[Shinfitz]

pretty intuitive to me..

"Does the card have Name: Hinata Hyuga?"
"no"
"then you cant.."

No mistake goes unpunished it seems.

I brought it on myself however.


I jumped the gun and upon quickly reading the cards once I was excited since I had the whole Kiba Double Headed Wolf in mind.

It is, however, no excuse. It was my mistake.

I still feel the new Hinabi is a worth wile card to use.

[Ishimaru Shun]

Where do you get your math, man? Out of a cereal box? Unless you count the draw at the beggining of the turn (I feel sorry for you if you do) you get -1 cards in your hand when this is all finished

He's referring to card advantage which is determined easily if you wind up more cards in your hand after playing a card than before (or so I understand), so the initial draw have already been calculated in. I admit, with the addition of the Hinata/Hiashi Platoon, this could be considered a +2 advantage (make sure of the 2 cards you drop is a Hinata or Byakugan Jutsu.)

Hell, has anybody noticed that she also has "Main Branch". Typo or not, that means she can use Rotation (J-143), Curse Mark Jutsu, and Secret Mark of the Main Branch... I wonder if the reason she and Hanabi lacked the charateristic because they didn't know any of these techniques (though I'm pretty sure Hinata doesn't know Rotation until they release a version of Rotation that allows other than J-143 which was most likely created without any body every expecting anybody except Hiashi to have "Main Branch"!)

[Gaara_]

Hanabi, I say will be 2 new, 1 old. Although the old Hanabi will be much better now since Wedgie and Hinater are late-turns.

[Ishimaru Shun]

Hanabi, I say will be 2 new, 1 old. Although the old Hanabi will be much better now since Wedgie and Hinater are late-turns.

In a Hinata Deck I would run 1-2 new Hanabis for the search then the old to allow you to play the new Hinata earlier... however in a Byakugan/Neji deck, the new Hanabi would only cramp the style. Though I never thought I would see the day Hanabi supports Hinata. We just now need a Hinata/Hinabi platoon! ^.^

[Alucard_rules]

He's referring to card advantage which is determined easily if you wind up more cards in your hand after playing a card than before (or so I understand), so the initial draw have already been calculated in. I admit, with the addition of the Hinata/Hiashi Platoon, this could be considered a +2 advantage (make sure of the 2 cards you drop is a Hinata or Byakugan Jutsu.)The thing is, like someone else stated, if you count the mission and the hand cost, along with the 2 discard, the card is a -1. A well balanced -1 that is pretty good, but in the end you are winding up with -1 card in hand. Say you have 6 cards in hand. You play Debt and pay the hand cost. 4 cards. Draw 3. 7 cards. Discard 2. 5 cards. 5-6=-1. I like the card, and Earth needed it, but facts are facts, it is a -1, and people need to understand that.

Hell, has anybody noticed that she also has "Main Branch". Typo or not, that means she can use Rotation (J-143), Curse Mark Jutsu, and Secret Mark of the Main Branch... I wonder if the reason she and Hanabi lacked the charateristic because they didn't know any of these techniques (though I'm pretty sure Hinata doesn't know Rotation until they release a version of Rotation that allows other than J-143 which was most likely created without any body every expecting anybody except Hiashi to have "Main Branch"!)Overall I like the theme. I don't think any of these will go into my Fire/Earth deck, still hoping for a Hinata with a good effect in the set. If I make a mono-earth though, I'll definitely run Debt and Emission, not sure on the others.

[DeadJiraiya]

The Platoon is primarily to fuel the new Neji.

True.

The Mission fuels Zetsu (so does another card in Set 12 but Pojo will show that...)

Fair enough.

Hanabi is like the "Gadgets" or "Call for Family" its good and you may see more like it in the future. ;)

*is hoping for a Gaara tutor this set or next set*

The Jutsu negates Naruto Uzumaki 2K Baarage for free.

Seriously? so for EOC's negation, X is 0? That means that Furious Current and the new Water Dragon can be negated for 1 Earth. I take back what I posted earlier:D

You'll see more Hinatas in the future (with effects). :)

We better, if Bandai knows what's good for 'em :mad:

[texans07]

*is hoping for a Gaara tutor this set or next set*

We better, if Bandai knows what's good for 'em :mad:

Like 9th Match & Long Awaited Rinforcements wasn't good enough. :D

[Paladin_of_chaos]

You have 6 cards, for example. -2 (mission and cost) = 4. +3 (first effect) = 7. -2 (secund effect) = 5

Zero: Right :/ Again mistaken, but still I'm counting for new Hinata's Jutsu.

whoops, you're right. My bad, minor miscalculation. But still a good card.

[DeadJiraiya]

Like 9th Match & Long Awaited Rinforcements wasn't good enough. :D

9th Match doesn't work for T4+ Gaaras, and LAR is off-color. Besides, I was talking about a Ninja like Hanabi, only replace "Hinata Hyuga" with "Gaara of the Desert" or "The Fifth Kazekage".

Perhaps it can be that Gaara fangirl who was arguing with Temari to look for Gaara when they were on patrol, or both her and the fangirl we saw after Gaara was revived.

Man, Gaara is a pimp.:D

[JapaneseDT]

I love this theme i rather have platoon so neji effects continous goes off and great negation, ehhh hanabi old one better, lovely mission, only problem a ***king vanilla Hinata :( once again she gets jipped except for the two mental

[JDragoon]

Finally some cool earth support!
Im lovin these cards!
Finally my hyuuga deck will rise above all the fire decks at my local!:D
just kidding about the last part...:mad::mad::mad:

[Kakashi_Hatake777]

I will use this Hinata, for the sole fact it can use Air Palms and she can be tutored. + she is my favorite character and this is the 2nd cutest card she has (First one is [Gentle Heart] of course) I mean 3/3 is a nice healthy stats and she has growth + she will be on theme and on element. And with Deidara sucking every single Earth symbol chakra you got, being in element is gonna be a huge thing. Of course once the new Hinata with effect comes i'll use her, but this is the 3rd best Hinata out there so yeah..... (The first one being Ointment and the 2nd being OtW) and sher can be both tutored and can use Air Palms. + she is Chunnin.

[hahonryuu]

hinata and daddy it is cool but dam spots for platoons is very tight. with neji and daddy.
hinata chunin no effect but she really did not do anything so okay. but mental come on now if she gets mental 2

neji should be mental 3 he is a genius. and if he gets it sasuke should too as both of them were consider genius.

hanabi not better then other one but might be worth one in deck to search for chunin hinata on turn 2
emission cool but :confused: the example jutsu cost does this "lightning 1" mean 1 lightning 1 any so you have to pay 2 earth to negate. this is only worth one in deck as the one gentle fist is way better but this one is better to negate low cost jutsu.
bedt gracful charity nuff said

-_- didnt you start an argument like this before....when they call people like neji and sasuke geniuses, they dont eman it in the traditional super smart sense. when they call them geniuses they are talking about their natural talent for ninja training and ability to just absorb the training like nothing

shika <and arguably sakura and kakashi> are probably the only genius<es> in the traditional super smart sense in the entire series

The Platoon is primarily to fuel the new Neji.

The Mission fuels Zetsu (so does another card in Set 12 but Pojo will show that...)

Hanabi is like the "Gadgets" or "Call for Family" its good and you may see more like it in the future. ;) lol at confirming you guys sniping yugioh effects...first light force hiashi graeful debt :p. as long as your doing that

The Jutsu negates Naruto Uzumaki 2K Baarage for free.

wait wait wait...that cant be possible...even if it reads the oposing jutsu as 0 chakra, its own X cant = 0, so it would take at least one wouldnt it? <since X cant be paid as 0>

You'll see more Hinatas in the future (with effects). :)

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platoon...i like it, it feeds neji so then you can truely bring them down to 0 without doing it to yourself <and if you recycle the chakra eater gentle fist then they lose chakra at the same time XD or use the new negation and negate their jutsu and discard their hand at the ame time lol>

hinata...cant say i expected better <she hasnt done anything yet after all> and the stats are nice <especially in a byakugan deck since hyuuga support is laughable at best on most cards>. yayz for finally having main branch<not that its very important...yet. but its just something she SHOULD have had. and she couldve had it, all they needed to do was change the requirements of some jutsu, same goes for hanabi>. MP is a little out of place but im not complaining. nothings wrong with growth with solid stats like hers. im not going to squeal over her seeing as im not much of a hinata fan, but hey, we got her earlier than expected so i got no quarrels <just means we'll get a better one next time around>

hanabi...i like it...and i see no problem running both. play new on turn 0 find hinata, growth old on top of it and then play hinata

emissions...amazing sauce. wish it just required byakugan though<i mean it an get real expensive, and having your negation on turn 3 (2 if you have old hanabi in play) can be rough...especially against water (T1 current current FTL lol)>

debt...yugioh hijack ftw? great card, heavy deck cycling(exception of a few card (like clouds) cycling 3 cards is impressive for turn 2, minor payment


great theme over all, and i love the way it works together so well but not in a way hyuuga stuff did before. i mean before with the excetion of neji and hinata, you werent really playing a hyuuga in an earth deck outside byakugan (assuming you were RUNNING earth to begin with. in which case you had balls lol). but you could run hanabi in a normal earth deck and look for a hinata that your also probably playing and the first several sets proved that you only really need 2 users for a jutsu to work consistantly <fire survived with only 2 users for their main negation till set 5> so emissions is workable into a deck as well. the later game stuff is still very specific to byakugan only decks, but im sure future jonin neji <maybe even a nother one in this set!> will fix that. and rightfully hiashi SHOULD be supporting his clan so thats understandable

and byakugan looks pretty playable right now, what ive wanted forever <im a fire palyer but it always kinda bugged me that the 2 rival eye jutsus had one placed soooooo much higher than the other that it was sick> and i love how you didnt give in <to much> to peer pressure when it came to making it playable! people are always like "more damg jutsu balh blah blah" but you guys stuck to byakugans guns...hand control, GJ bandai


EDIT: though its great imo i am slightly disappointed, especially at the hype over hinata...looks like texan is just another hina fan boy lol XD

[akira]

FFS i stopped playing because the game was getting unbalanced and then this set comes out....O___O

these are all awesome.
hanabi is excellent - tutors a specific character to slim your deck, help you hit your curve, and the character happens to have specific jutsus :O
plus its stats aren't bad and its a 0 drop.

debt is good because earth actually has draw now FFS
but still it's you get 3 for the price of 4... kinda wish that earth had the most absolute best draw in the world to make up for the 2-3 years it hasnt had any but i guess with the "get any ninja" card earth will be mono worthy ^___^

*goes out and buys 32059842 packs etc*

[Frost 22]

This Hinata makes me furious! Her stats are way too good, and whats with the Mental Power 2?! She has shown no smarts or strategic thinking, or genius quality at all. Neji needs mental power, I mean come on, he figured out how to do rotation, 8 trigrams 64 palms, and developed his byakugan to see tenketsu all on his own! He at least needs a mental power of 2. Also, this Hinata's stats, including mental power, are collectively better than Naruto's and Sakura's. There is no way she is really as strong as/stronger than them. These crazy stats better just be here because it's a vanilla. When they make a Hinata with an effect, she better not have mental power, and her stats should be 3/2, 1/2, or 2/3, 1/2 at best.
I'm also upset that they are letting her use Neji's new jutsu. He created 8 trigrams air palm on his own, and can emit chakra from any point on his body, while she has shown no ability to do this at all.
Finally, debt is a good card, but since it's of Tsunade's debt, it should have been a wind card. I have no problem with Earth having these card effects, but they should have used a different theme/idea for the card that fits the element.

[hahonryuu]

This Hinata makes me furious! Her stats are way too good, and whats with the Mental Power 2?! She has shown no smarts or strategic thinking, or genius quality at all. Neji needs mental power, I mean come on, he figured out how to do rotation, 8 trigrams 64 palms, and developed his byakugan to see tenketsu all on his won! He at least needs a mental power of 2. Also, this Hinata's stats, including mental power, are collectively better than Naruto's and Sakura's. There is no way she is really as strong as/stronger than them. These crazy stats better just be here because it's a vanilla. When they make a Hinata with an effect, she better not have mental power, and her stats should be 3/2, 1/2, or 2/3, 1/2 at best.
I'm also upset that they are letting her use Neji's new jutsu. He created 8 trigrams air palm on his own, and can emit chakra from any point on his body, while she has shown no ability to do this at all.
Finally, debt is a good card, but since it's of Tsunade's debt, it should have been a wind card. I have no problem with Earth having these card effects, but they should have used a different theme/idea for the card that fits the element.

1) calm the **** down

2) tell me exactly where it said he created air palm...oh thats right, you cant because it never did

3) art doesnt decide who gets it, never has, never will. there have always, since the beginning been cards who's art has been off element

[Kakashi_Hatake777]

This Hinata makes me furious! Her stats are way too good, and whats with the Mental Power 2?! She has shown no smarts or strategic thinking, or genius quality at all. Neji needs mental power, I mean come on, he figured out how to do rotation, 8 trigrams 64 palms, and developed his byakugan to see tenketsu all on his won! He at least needs a mental power of 2. Also, this Hinata's stats, including mental power, are collectively better than Naruto's and Sakura's. There is no way she is really as strong as/stronger than them. These crazy stats better just be here because it's a vanilla. When they make a Hinata with an effect, she better not have mental power, and her stats should be 3/2, 1/2, or 2/3, 1/2 at best.
I'm also upset that they are letting her use Neji's new jutsu. He created 8 trigrams air palm on his own, and can emit chakra from any point on his body, while she has shown no ability to do this at all.
Finally, debt is a good card, but since it's of Tsunade's debt, it should have been a wind card. I have no problem with Earth having these card effects, but they should have used a different theme/idea for the card that fits the element.

Just because she hasnt been shown to do any progress dosent mean she isnt stronger. Her stats are good yes, and theres a very big chance that the future Hinas all have the same stats. She is a chunnin, so that means that she had to did some big progress to get there. Kishimoto is keeping her growth secret until the end where I think she will make one of the biggest changes in ability ever seen. Yes, Im a fanboy, but a non-fanboy can also see this.

As for Neji having MP stats, Im completely behind you. Neji should very well have MP:2, since he figured all those moves on his own. As for Debt....... dude really...... wind got enough draw as it is....... This is Earth's big set......

[MinatoNamikaze]

Just because she hasnt been shown to do any progress dosent mean she isnt stronger. Her stats are good yes, and theres a very big chance that the future Hinas all have the same stats. She is a chunnin, so that means that she had to did some big progress to get there. Kishimoto is keeping her growth secret until the end where I think she will make one of the biggest changes in ability ever seen. Yes, Im a fanboy, but a non-fanboy can also see this.

As for Neji having MP stats, Im completely behind you. Neji should very well have MP:2, since he figured all those moves on his own. As for Debt....... dude really...... wind got enough draw as it is....... This is Earth's big set......

im not a fanboy and i dont see her doing anything

looking at the manga the way it is now, it looks like its going to be pretty stale with naruto pretty much being the only one doing anything. which sucks because i REALLY wanna see shino do stuff lol, i men thinking about it, how the **** do you beat an aburame aside from like fire jutsu and bug spray XD. so...many...bugs... its overwhelming. which is why i dont think mr.masashi is going to do aything because they pwn so much XD. if he showed the true power of the aburame clan then it would make everybody else, seem lame, even people like kakashi <so glad the way that turned out, wink wink, hint hint>


ive faced the unfortunate facts a long time ago that my poor poor shino isnt going to do anything extrodinary outside of shippuuden fillers and movies. unfortunately that means the same for hinata, kiba, tenten, neji, lee, just arent going to do anything <luckily my precious ino got her action in against hidan/kakuzu>

[Tayuya the flute godess]

"I'll have my Hinata use headhunter jutsu"

[Immortal-JyNxX]

Hi guys my first post!

Hinata is trash... Hanibi is ok-ish, I'd rather drop Hinata turn 2 and Neji turn 3.

[Linkdarkside]

I'm also upset that they are letting her use Neji's new jutsu. He created 8 trigrams air palm on his own, and can emit chakra from any point on his body, while she has shown no ability to do this at all.
Finally, debt is a good card, but since it's of Tsunade's debt, it should have been a wind card. I have no problem with Earth having these card effects, but they should have used a different theme/idea for the card that fits the element.wo said he created that on his own?

[Curse marke Sasuke]

Thats how you do Hinata?
Oh well, guess Debt makes up for that.

[Heldigunner1]

First of all, Hinata has always been smart. During the chunnin exam she new all the answers to the written test and tried to pass the answers to Naruto. I have always wanted Hinata to have mental power and have no problem with giving her 2.

Second of all, after 11 sets of being understated finally having an overstated version is not to bad.

Third, this is a card game. Not everything has to be exact to the show just based around. (EX. Konohamaru and more of the Naruto should of had Clone status) If it means balancing a deck type or giving an archtype a chance to be played competitvely I am fine with that.

[hahonryuu]

First of all, Hinata has always been smart. During the chunnin exam she new all the answers to the written test and tried to pass the answers to Naruto. I have always wanted Hinata to have mental power and have no problem with giving her 2.

Second of all, after 11 sets of being understated finally having an overstated version is not to bad.

Third, this is a card game. Not everything has to be exact to the show just based around. (EX. Konohamaru and more of the Naruto should of had Clone status) If it means balancing a deck type or giving an archtype a chance to be played competitvely I am fine with that.

first pof all you have no proof she simply didnt use her byakugan the way neji did and the way sasuke used sharingan or the way kiba used akamru or the way shino used bugs or the way ino mind transfered etc.

imo nobody should be OVER stated, they should be normal stated for how strong they really are

wih kono, we dont know yet <as far as american version goes> that he has SCJ yet, those who watch/read ahead know he does but for all intent and purposes we dont know that yet. i agree with anruto though, every single naruto save a couple should have clone status. at the very least every one since dream legacy <when, if i remember correctly, the first rasengan was given as a promo>


im totally with you on the last part, but seeng as hinata has always been a support ninja and since this one clearly is going to be a support ninja, i think her combat is just a wee bit to high is all. im not complaining...just sayin

[Kakashi_Hatake777]

"I'll have my Hinata use headhunter jutsu"

Excellent. lol Mono-Earth FTW!!

[Shino'sDad]

I'm also upset that they are letting her use Neji's new jutsu. He created 8 trigrams air palm on his own, and can emit chakra from any point on his body, while she has shown no ability to do this at all.


If Emission of Chakra and 8 trigrams Air Palms were Neji only, they would be unplayable and thus bad. Giving most Byakugan users a chance to use them makes them playable. Get your anime logic out of our card game.

[SharinganHeir]

If Emission of Chakra and 8 trigrams Air Palms were Neji only, they would be unplayable and thus bad. Giving most Byakugan users a chance to use them makes them playable. Get your anime logic out of our card game.

QFT

I'm right with you on this one[/character requirement]

[LShade]

I don't see the hate about hinata seriously. I'm really loving the card. Ok sure she have no effect but look at those stat. 3/3 - 2/3 MP2 Growth any time! Character that have good support stat are really rare. Keeping her 3 even injured is really good.

Hinata& Hiaishi : Great! Byakugan just got playable cycling byakugan jutsu. It also can use every Byakugan technique and fetch them... nice

Hanabi : Tutor is always a good option as of right now, old hanabi is more useful but that's me

Hinata : Just a great card. She's just plain good. Now let's see when they release the new with effect. She'll have same stat.

Emission of Chakra : Just what earth needed (well let's say byakugan lol) This negate is just that useful :D Yay!

Debt : Not that great but if you're going byakugan you could always drop jutsu and fetch it back with platoon but still earth don't have draw power and mon-earth needed that card.

[Shinfitz]

If Emission of Chakra and 8 trigrams Air Palms were Neji only, they would be unplayable and thus bad. Giving most Byakugan users a chance to use them makes them playable. Get your anime logic out of our card game.

At last, somebody who gets it.

[hahonryuu]

I don't see the hate about hinata seriously. I'm really loving the card. Ok sure she have no effect but look at those stat. 3/3 - 2/3 MP2 Growth any time! Character that have good support stat are really rare. Keeping her 3 even injured is really good.

Hinata& Hiaishi : Great! Byakugan just got playable cycling byakugan jutsu. It also can use every Byakugan technique and fetch them... nice

Hanabi : Tutor is always a good option as of right now, old hanabi is more useful but that's me

Hinata : Just a great card. She's just plain good. Now let's see when they release the new with effect. She'll have same stat.

Emission of Chakra : Just what earth needed (well let's say byakugan lol) This negate is just that useful :D Yay!

Debt : Not that great but if you're going byakugan you could always drop jutsu and fetch it back with platoon but still earth don't have draw power and mon-earth needed that card.

err fyi, she doesnt keep her support, she keeps her combat. just sayin

[Kakashi_Hatake777]

err fyi, she doesnt keep her support, she keeps her combat. just sayin

Just wondering the source of your info. Or is that speculation?

[animefanatic]

Just wondering the source of your info. Or is that speculation?

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Great answer :rolleyes:.................... Him being so sure can only arise questions. Im quite aware is probably speculation......................... sigh......

[SharinganHeir]

Guys, seriously. The "face-palm" is getting relly annoying. I'm going to start reporting people for posting spam.

[SharinganHeir]

Just wondering the source of your info. Or is that speculation?

His source was the pic of the card. Did you see the preview? Her stats are 3/3 healthy, 3/2 injured.

[hahonryuu]

His source was the pic of the card. Did you see the preview? Her stats are 3/3 healthy, 3/2 injured.

This ^^^


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[Kakashi_Hatake777]

This ^^^


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Wow, I totally misunderstood you.......... sorry. :p

[Frost 22]

1) calm the **** down

2) tell me exactly where it said he created air palm...oh thats right, you cant because it never did

3) art doesnt decide who gets it, never has, never will. there have always, since the beginning been cards who's art has been off element

1) Swearing isn't necessary, maybe you need to calm down.

2) A Naruto website (forgot it's name) said he created this technique (it translated it as empty palm, though). It said it in a long character bio that I read like two years ago. I haven't seen the Shippuden anime yet, or caught all the way up with the manga (I have read the Rescue Gaara Arc, though) so I guess that based on what you said, it never says so. My bad! Unless they got it from an interview with Kishimoto, there's no proof that it's true.

3) Yeah, you're right, there are a lot of themes/art that have different elements from the ninja they're connected to.

[Frost 22]

If Emission of Chakra and 8 trigrams Air Palms were Neji only, they would be unplayable and thus bad. Giving most Byakugan users a chance to use them makes them playable. Get your anime logic out of our card game.

I never said that they would be Neji only, just that I couldn't see Hinata using them (there's Hizashi and Hiashi), but I see your point. It does add strength to the Hyuga theme as a whole. But,FYI, my "anime logic", which is really manga logic, does play a part in our card game. The whole game is based off of the manga and anime, and there are a lot of limits to possible jutsu users for cards because of it. Without these, who knows what the game would be like?

[StormVyper]

Guys, seriously. The "face-palm" is getting relly annoying. I'm going to start reporting people for posting spam.

If you say something just utterly retarded, you deserve to be face-palmed. It's completely justified, because it's what some of us actually do when reading some of the responses posted here. Stop whining.

[Frost 22]

Just because she hasnt been shown to do any progress dosent mean she isnt stronger. Her stats are good yes, and theres a very big chance that the future Hinas all have the same stats. She is a chunnin, so that means that she had to did some big progress to get there. Kishimoto is keeping her growth secret until the end where I think she will make one of the biggest changes in ability ever seen. Yes, Im a fanboy, but a non-fanboy can also see this.

As for Neji having MP stats, Im completely behind you. Neji should very well have MP:2, since he figured all those moves on his own. As for Debt....... dude really...... wind got enough draw as it is....... This is Earth's big set......

She should be stronger, but not by such a huge leap. I mean, she improved by 10 stats (including MP) as compared to Naruto's 5 or 6 and Sakura's 6 or 7 (both are characters who trained intensely for 2.5 years with two of the Sannin!). I think Hinata's support is great and useful, and fits her, but her 3 combat healthy and injured is too much. Most vanillas have better stats, and the ninja's have lesser stats when they have useful effects, but yeah, she still could keep them. Who knows if she has a big role at the end?

I'm glad you're behind me with Neji having mental power! I guess Hinata could possibly deserve mental power (if she didn't use her Byakugan on the first Chunin exam and actually got a good amount right), but I haven't seen anything beyond mental power 1. But, I guess just being a byakugan user may qualify someone for mental power. I mean, the byakugan is known for its incredible insight, after all. It would be so cool if all of the Hyugas got mental power!

As for Debt, I realize now how the element of a card doesn't always match with the element of the ninja(s) it is associated with. It just would have been cool to see a draw for Earth that something to do with the Hyuga clan or some other Earth ninja. This is Earth's big set, but Wind is in need of help too (in other forms) and should hopefully get it when the Wind previews come out!

[hahonryuu]

She should be stronger, but not by such a huge leap. I mean, she improved by 10 stats (including MP) as compared to Naruto's 5 or 6 and Sakura's 6 or 7 (both are characters who trained intensely for 2.5 years with two of the Sannin!). I think Hinata's support is great and useful, and fits her, but her 3 combat healthy and injured is too much. Most vanillas have better stats, and the ninja's have lesser stats when they have useful effects, but yeah, she still could keep them. Who knows if she has a big role at the end?

I'm glad you're behind me with Neji having mental power! I guess Hinata could possibly deserve mental power (if she didn't use her Byakugan on the first Chunin exam and actually got a good amount right), but I haven't seen anything beyond mental power 1. But, I guess just being a byakugan user may qualify someone for mental power. I mean, the byakugan is known for its incredible insight, after all. It would be so cool if all of the Hyugas got mental power!

As for Debt, I realize now how the element of a card doesn't always match with the element of the ninja(s) it is associated with. It just would have been cool to see a draw for Earth that something to do with the Hyuga clan or some other Earth ninja. This is Earth's big set, but Wind is in need of help too (in other forms) and should hopefully get it when the Wind previews come out!


well wind is supposed to get a huge boost <no ryu i dont know anything so dont go fireing people :rolleyes:>

[Poo Toucher]

well wind is supposed to get a huge boost <no ryu i dont know anything so dont go fireing people :rolleyes:>

wind....is....amazing this format, I haven't even seen half the cards but the ones I have has made me want to play wind/x this upcoming format.

[hahonryuu]

ive been wanting to play puppets forever and have been counting the seconds till sasori comes out =3

but of that first jutsu is any indicator it loos like wind is definately getting some toys <toys that dont require strings or bicurious teenage boys in purple make up>


*crosses finger in hopes bandai doesnt pull another OC on us*

[Poo Toucher]

ive been wanting to play puppets forever and have been counting the seconds till sasori comes out =3

but of that first jutsu is any indicator it loos like wind is definately getting some toys <toys that dont require strings or bicurious teenage boys in purple make up>


*crosses finger in hopes bandai doesnt pull another OC on us*

well, with the first sasori, I have to say puppets have been a let down so far.....they needed that combo to compete with the other decks

[hahonryuu]

well, with the first sasori, I have to say puppets have been a let down so far.....they needed that combo to compete with the other decks

if theres a SR dei then theres a SR sasori. 100% garenteed. ide bet every SR i own <well over 200> with you that there will be one. whether he's previewed or not is different, he might not be. but i bet you my SR's that he's there

dont base puppets off that uncommon sasori. he was clearly there for the people who cant afford boxes so that at the very elast they have A sasori

and besides even if my some miracle the heavans were like "no...hon your giving up your SR's now" and there wasnt a better sasori coming out. theres still chiyo ;)


so long as chiyo is good then puppets can stand having a vanilla sasori for a set

[Poo Toucher]

if theres a SR dei then theres a SR sasori. 100% garenteed. ide bet every SR i own <well over 200> with you that there will be one. whether he's previewed or not is different, he might not be. but i bet you my SR's that he's there

dont base puppets off that uncommon sasori. he was clearly there for the people who cant afford boxes so that at the very elast they have A sasori

and besides even if my some miracle the heavans were like "no...hon your giving up your SR's now" and there wasnt a better sasori coming out. theres still chiyo ;)


so long as chiyo is good then puppets can stand having a vanilla sasori for a set

no no no...you're misunderstanding me completely....sasori does not have puppet, which is a clincher to me, because then I can abuse trick and then platoon him into insta-advantage. Without puppet characteristic, puppets have seen a huge letdown.....

[hahonryuu]

no no no...you're misunderstanding me completely....sasori does not have puppet, which is a clincher to me, because then I can abuse trick and then platoon him into insta-advantage. Without puppet characteristic, puppets have seen a huge letdown.....

yeah that got to me too...i think i get why he doesnt have puppet, but i just dont think that reason was good enough


oh well. maybe the reason i think is wrong and they did it because its before we know he himself was a puppet. so maybe a future sasori will have it <heck maybe the SR does. ide give up ambush for puppet lol>

[Poo Toucher]

yeah that got to me too...i think i get why he doesnt have puppet, but i just dont think that reason was good enough


oh well. maybe the reason i think is wrong and they did it because its before we know he himself was a puppet. so maybe a future sasori will have it <heck maybe the SR does. ide give up ambush for puppet lol>

I will say this....if the SR has puppet and not puppet master, I retract everything I just said lulz:p

[hahonryuu]

I will say this....if the SR has puppet and not puppet master, I retract everything I just said lulz:p

no no no, i have a feeling he should remain a master. it could be <infact ide bet...1/2 my SR's on this one> there for his jutsu and chiyos jutsu <so lil kankuro cant do them BUT giving them a slightly easier requirement than having to have a specific one out...you can have either. eases it up a little bit>


i predict puppet master being important to puppet decks...but really, if kankuro is going to be triking sasori into play, he doesnt need ambush =/ thats way more expendable lol. if he's puppet then we KNOW ambush isnt tha big a deal, but not having puppet master could hurt the deck type a lot

[Poo Toucher]

no no no, i have a feeling he should remain a master. it could be <infact ide bet...1/2 my SR's on this one> there for his jutsu and chiyos jutsu <so lil kankuro cant do them BUT giving them a slightly easier requirement than having to have a specific one out...you can have either. eases it up a little bit>


i predict puppet master being important to puppet decks...but really, if kankuro is going to be triking sasori into play, he doesnt need ambush =/ thats way more expendable lol. if he's puppet then we KNOW ambush isnt tha big a deal, but not having puppet master could hurt the deck type a lot

if he does not have puppet....I will never look at wind puppets, straight up

[hahonryuu]

if he does not have puppet....I will never look at wind puppets, straight up

not even if chiyo was the ****?

i mean come on, at his worst sasori at LEAST becomes another manpulator <so at turn 5 you can say "**** you kankuro im not protecting your butt no more> and another user for jutsu

[Poo Toucher]

not even if chiyo was the ****?

i mean come on, at his worst sasori at LEAST becomes another manpulator <so at turn 5 you can say "**** you kankuro im not protecting your butt no more> and another user for jutsu

with no way of jumping the curve and part of said curve has akamaru syndrome....yea, I'd rather look tempo's way and another way (staring charlie shene) as of the second deck.....

watch wind week, it's great.

[SharinganHeir]

If you say something just utterly retarded, you deserve to be face-palmed. It's completely justified, because it's what some of us actually do when reading some of the responses posted here. Stop whining.

There is nothing justified about it. You are flat out insulting someone by posting that, and last I checked, insults are warn-able. It's also spam, which is also warn-able. And there's a difference between whining and ranting.

no no no...you're misunderstanding me completely....sasori does not have puppet, which is a clincher to me, because then I can abuse trick and then platoon him into insta-advantage. Without puppet characteristic, puppets have seen a huge letdown.....

Depending on how far into the anime this set is supposed to go, we might not see a "puppet" Sasori until next set. We don't "find out" that Sasori is sitting in a puppet (Hiruko) until episode 20, and he doesn't come out of it until episode 21. And we don't find out that Sassori turned himself into a puppet until 25. But if this set covers the entire battle with Sasori and Deidara, we Should see a lot of cool things for puppets.

I'm more interested in finding out if we are getting Sasori's true form, the Mother and Father puppets, and the 3rd Kazekage puppet as cards than worrying about Sasori having "puppet". I don't remember, but I think we are getting 3 wind previews? I'm guessing we'll see a Sasori preview (Sasori true form, Hikuro/Sasori, the 3rd Kazekage puppet, Sasori's 100 puppet jutsu, and another jutsu/mission), a Chiyo preview (Chiyo, Mother, Father, Chiyo's 10 fingers jutsu, and maybe a defensive jutsu for her arms) and maybe even a Kankuro preview (shippuden Kankuro, Crow, Black Ant, Salamander, and a jutsu/mission), since 5th Kazekage and Medical have already been done. Those are just my hopes and guesses though

[combomasterchuy]

i love debt and the new negation jutsu