question regarding the new preview card

[kh2003]

I have a question regarding the new jutsu 355 "opening the sharingan eye"

I don't exactly quite understand its effect of:

Target: 1 jutsu card being played

Effect: "apply the same 'target' and/or 'effect' as the target'"

If anyone can explain this to me in simple English, it would be greatly appreciated.

[ross134]

im thinking its basically duplicating an effect.

Ex/ Play 8 Trigrams, then this targeting another ninja to trigram two ninjas to the top of the deck

[BigDameDame]

Uhhh I dont get the card either LOL

[Saitsuofleaves]

There's two possible rulings. One will make it useless, the other would make it broken. The one ruling would be say:

Ruling 1:
Player 1's Zabuza plays Giant Vortex
Player 2's Kakashi plays Opening and copies it but the target is still his team.

Ruling 2:
Player 1's Zabuza plays Giant Vortex
Player 2's Kakashi plays Opening and copies Vortex, now the target is the team Kakashi is battling, chain resolves, Zabuza's team gets blown away before Kakashi's.

[Mr Wheat]

most likely (1) is the better choice.

Ninja uses Jutsu.

opponent's Ninja plays a negation.

a diff Ninja uses 355, and a duplicate of the original Jutsu's effect will be applied when 355's effect is applied.

there are some additional notes, but that may be how it works.

:rolleyes:

[big_time69666]

There's two possible rulings. One will make it useless, the other would make it broken. The one ruling would be say:

Ruling 1:
Player 1's Zabuza plays Giant Vortex
Player 2's Kakashi plays Opening and copies it but the target is still his team.

Ruling 2:
Player 1's Zabuza plays Giant Vortex
Player 2's Kakashi plays Opening and copies Vortex, now the target is the team Kakashi is battling, chain resolves, Zabuza's team gets blown away before Kakashi's.

ruling 1 is how i think the card works at least how it is worded.

[Saitsuofleaves]

That's what I originally thought but Texans has been saying the card is worthy of the hype it's getting, so maybe it is #2 which means brokeness.

[teenage time killer]

Opening of the Sharingan Eye copies what is one the card. What ever is printed under "Target" on the card and whatever is printed under "Effect" on the card. So if your opponent plays a 8 Trigrams, you can play Opening and your Opening would turn into Target 1 Ninja, put target to top of owners deck. So your opening just basically turned into whatever they play. So now you have the choice of who you want to trigrams on the field.

[dragonlord00]

There's two possible rulings. One will make it useless, the other would make it broken. The one ruling would be say:

Ruling 1:
Player 1's Zabuza plays Giant Vortex
Player 2's Kakashi plays Opening and copies it but the target is still his team.

Ruling 2:
Player 1's Zabuza plays Giant Vortex
Player 2's Kakashi plays Opening and copies Vortex, now the target is the team Kakashi is battling, chain resolves, Zabuza's team gets blown away before Kakashi's.

Giant vortex is a poor choice of a comparison jutsu since the target is the team battling against the user, no matter how you word it, the Kakashi team would be safe. trigrams however, is a much better choice to question.

Ruling 1:
Player 1's Zabuza plays 8 trigram seal spell formula targeting Kakashi.
Player 2's Kakashi plays Opening and copies it but the target is still him.

Ruling 2:
Player 1's Zabuza plays 8 trigram seal spell formula targeting Kakashi.
Player 2's Kakashi plays Opening and copies trigram, now the target is up to the Kakashi player to decide.

As you can see, the jutsus target used in the question greatly differentiates how useful Opening really is.

[missingo]

It should look at the jutsu, on which the target is "1 Ninja" not "Zabuza Momochi" or whatever ninja you choose.

[Genre]

So how come the people who create these cards can't even tell us the real ruling? That's goofy.

So what is the official ruling on this card? How does it work?

[Saitsuofleaves]

It should look at the jutsu, on which the target is "1 Ninja" not "Zabuza Momochi" or whatever ninja you choose.

Well, actually the card says you can copy the target and/or the effect. You could copy Rasengan but obviously since Kakashi isn't Naruto, Jiraya, or the Fourth, you don't copy the target but you still get the effect.

[Hungry_Ninja]

I play: 8 trigram

You play: Sharingan eye, targeting 8 trigram.

I play: Opening of the Sharingan Eye.

My opening copies 8 trigram, causing your ninjas to bounce. Your sharingan eye (provided its a different user) negates my original 8 trigram.

If you want a simplistic way of thinking about it, Opening becomes a copy of its target while applying the same target and effect.

[ross134]

I play: 8 trigram

You play: Sharingan eye, targeting 8 trigram.

I play: Opening of the Sharingan Eye.

My opening copies 8 trigram, causing your ninjas to bounce. Your sharingan eye (provided its a different user) negates my original 8 trigram.

If you want a simplistic way of thinking about it, Opening becomes a copy of its target while applying the same target and effect.

So basically its to duplicate single damage jutsu, or get around negation

[garrangel]

So is this a full on agreement that this isnt a Super Sharingan that can copy any jutsu played, but just jutsu you play?

Sounds like full agreement.

[Kaiten]

I play: 8 trigram

You play: Sharingan eye, targeting 8 trigram.

I play: Opening of the Sharingan Eye.

My opening copies 8 trigram, causing your ninjas to bounce. Your sharingan eye (provided its a different user) negates my original 8 trigram.

If you want a simplistic way of thinking about it, Opening becomes a copy of its target while applying the same target and effect.

So is this a full on agreement that this isnt a Super Sharingan that can copy any jutsu played, but just jutsu you play?

[Zero Master Of Percision]

I play: 8 trigram

You play: Sharingan eye, targeting 8 trigram.

I play: Opening of the Sharingan Eye.

My opening copies 8 trigram, causing your ninjas to bounce. Your sharingan eye (provided its a different user) negates my original 8 trigram.

If you want a simplistic way of thinking about it, Opening becomes a copy of its target while applying the same target and effect.

Thank god. This was almost going to be monofire era all over again :(

not that fire didnt get other ridiculous cards in said preview.

[kh2003]

I play: 8 trigram

You play: Sharingan eye, targeting 8 trigram.

I play: Opening of the Sharingan Eye.

My opening copies 8 trigram, causing your ninjas to bounce. Your sharingan eye (provided its a different user) negates my original 8 trigram.

If you want a simplistic way of thinking about it, Opening becomes a copy of its target while applying the same target and effect.

So thats the official ruling? I guess its not as broken as i thought

[Shino'sDad]

It's still a pretty nice card. I might run two.

[Paladin_of_chaos]

i think there's something about it that may make it broken.

After all, the card says nothing about requirements...

I'll let you think about that for a bit...*cough*DFC*cough*-

[ross134]

i think there's something about it that may make it broken.

After all, the card says nothing about requirements...

I'll let you think about that for a bit...*cough*DFC*cough*-

Well if you mean DFCing the same field twice in the same Exchange of Jutsu without the first being negated, then yes it works :)

[garrangel]

I play: 8 trigram

You play: Sharingan eye, targeting 8 trigram.

I play: Opening of the Sharingan Eye.

My opening copies 8 trigram, causing your ninjas to bounce. Your sharingan eye (provided its a different user) negates my original 8 trigram.

If you want a simplistic way of thinking about it, Opening becomes a copy of its target while applying the same target and effect.

Instead of doing that why don't you just target with Sharingan Eye with Opening and just choose effect for the Opening.

[Sans19]

That's what I originally thought but Texans has been saying the card is worthy of the hype it's getting, so maybe it is #2 which means brokeness.

it's worthy of the hype because if you trigram an apw or something your opponent can use apw's ability which means it goes on the stack.
now if you don't have another trigram then your outta luck, unless you have this card which means you keep your ninja and you still get the effect that you were aiming for.
also it goes pretty good with basically any chidori