View Full Version : DFC is it or will it be dead ?
shikamaru pwns anyone
05-12-2008, 03:02 PM
i see alot of anti DFC in chosen and its not really a major deck type anymore do you think it will see play once chosen comes out
shikamaru pwns anyone
05-12-2008, 03:05 PM
Deep Forest Creation
http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/cardlists_detail.php?s=7&c=jus024
rasenganchidori42
05-12-2008, 03:08 PM
What is DFC?:confused:
Gin Ichimaru
05-12-2008, 03:08 PM
That deck never started. There is no real way to make on and it fails to no end. (no disrespect to The first Hokage)
shikamaru pwns anyone
05-12-2008, 03:11 PM
That deck never started. There is no real way to make on and it fails to no end. (no disrespect to The first Hokage)
i would not say that it was pretty good when qfp came out it was run mostly mono earth but idk maybe it just was not good in some places
silentkilla94
05-12-2008, 03:35 PM
Yes, I agree with One Winged Angel, Dfc decks will become even more powerful becuase of Hic. I cant wait for that card myself.
OneWingedAngel
05-12-2008, 03:37 PM
If anything I'd say DFC will became more powerful. Hinata In Captivity will make it harder for your opponent to get BRs allowing you to stall longer until you can use DFC. Not to mention all of the Byakugan stuff coming out that can be used in most earth decks. If earth become mono playable then we'll see a lot more DFC.
shikamaru pwns anyone
05-12-2008, 03:38 PM
If anything I'd say DFC will became more powerful. Hinata In Captivity will make it harder for your opponent to get BRs allowing you to stall longer until you can use DFC. Not to mention all of the Byakugan stuff coming out that can be used in most earth decks. If earth become mono playable then we'll see a lot more DFC.
well i am just saying because there is alot of anti bird and dfc in chosen
i guess all we can do is wait and see :(
Ninja_Haku
05-12-2008, 03:40 PM
It would be MonoEarth so no reason to no run The First Hokage.
1 or two DFC Splash wouldn't hurt.
visserac88
05-12-2008, 03:43 PM
If anything I'd say DFC will became more powerful. Hinata In Captivity will make it harder for your opponent to get BRs allowing you to stall longer until you can use DFC. Not to mention all of the Byakugan stuff coming out that can be used in most earth decks. If earth become mono playable then we'll see a lot more DFC.
DFC/Byakugan........that could work but the splash dfc would be way off deck.
shikamaru pwns anyone
05-12-2008, 03:54 PM
If anything I'd say DFC will became more powerful. Hinata In Captivity will make it harder for your opponent to get BRs allowing you to stall longer until you can use DFC. Not to mention all of the Byakugan stuff coming out that can be used in most earth decks. If earth become mono playable then we'll see a lot more DFC.
i thought about this with the new 8 trigrams running like this
x2 trigrams
x2 DFC
x3 diguise
x3 headhunter
nathanakasasuke
05-12-2008, 04:39 PM
I hope DFC dies it's a really good deck type but really annoying to play in my opinion but hinata in captivity is probaly gunna boost DFC
visserac88
05-12-2008, 04:54 PM
Hinata in captivity will be dead 2 weeks after the legal date....watch....
byakugan has a very playable card that will be in the reprints, it's non sr. But you forgot it in your build Shikamaru pwns. I forgot the name but it would make the deck far more playable......
x2 Trigrams
x3 Disguise
x3 that one reprint byakugan card
x2 Headhunter (x2 at most)
x3 Caged bird
x2 Hic (cuz it's going to be soooo great)
shikamaru pwns anyone
05-12-2008, 04:57 PM
Hinata in captivity will be dead 2 weeks after the legal date....watch....
byakugan has a very playable card that will be in the reprints, it's non sr. But you forgot it in your build Shikamaru pwns. I forgot the name but it would make the deck far more playable......
x2 Trigrams
x3 Disguise
x3 that one reprint byakugan card
x2 Headhunter (x2 at most)
x3 Caged bird
x2 Hic (cuz it's going to be soooo great)
that was just off the top of my head when i first saw this card idk what the real deck would look like
x}{gaara}{x
05-12-2008, 05:01 PM
Mono earth would look like this IMO:
3 Choji UsF
3 Naruto CoP
3 Ino UsF
3 Shika UsF
3 Neji DBB
1 Kamikiri
2 Hizashi
2 Ino/Ichi
2 Neji/Zashi
3 First Hokage 2 ST 1 SR
3 DFC
3 Rotation
2 Disquise Jutsu
3 Caged Bird
2 Hinata In Captivity
2 Attack From The Blind Spots
37 on element FTW?
visserac88
05-12-2008, 05:05 PM
that was just off the top of my head when i first saw this card idk what the real deck would look like
yeah I know,
pretty sure that might be a good enough build for Byakugan decks....I don't really like the dfc idea =/
OneWingedAngel
05-12-2008, 05:08 PM
Hinata in captivity will be dead 2 weeks after the legal date....watch....
byakugan has a very playable card that will be in the reprints, it's non sr. But you forgot it in your build Shikamaru pwns. I forgot the name but it would make the deck far more playable......
x2 Trigrams
x3 Disguise
x3 that one reprint byakugan card
x2 Headhunter (x2 at most)
x3 Caged bird
x2 Hic (cuz it's going to be soooo great)
I think you mean Gentle Fist. Anyway, my point was that earth got a good boost, maybe the biggest boost of all the elements this set. So I see no reason why DFC will stop being used. It's still a good deck. In my area it's usually mixed with wind tempo.
visserac88
05-12-2008, 05:12 PM
Mono earth would look like this IMO:
3 Choji UsF
3 Naruto CoP
3 Ino UsF
3 Shika UsF
3 Neji DBB
1 Kamikiri
2 Hizashi
2 Ino/Ichi
2 Neji/Zashi
3 First Hokage 2 ST 1 SR
3 DFC
3 Rotation
2 Disquise Jutsu
3 Caged Bird
2 Hinata In Captivity
2 Attack From The Blind Spots
37 on element FTW?
not bad but i would run 3x Neji and 2x Neji platoon only. Also your running zero draw power, Turn 4-5 might be good but if dfc fails you lose. the deck is running on a flame in a bottle with little air....
x}{gaara}{x
05-12-2008, 05:19 PM
it is a mono earth deck what do you want for draw power, leaf ninja forces or udon? It could work with hinata ointment and futaba i guess.
way too incosistent, i would never run that, the deck needs no draw power, hinata in captivity is bassically reverse draw power, and can help u stall.
shikamaru pwns anyone
05-12-2008, 05:20 PM
not bad but i would run 3x Neji and 2x Neji platoon only. Also your running zero draw power, Turn 4-5 might be good but if dfc fails you lose. the deck is running on a flame in a bottle with little air....
i guess the cop could be legacy
x}{gaara}{x
05-12-2008, 05:20 PM
i guess the cop could be legacy
no it couldnt, Legacy <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< CoP in forms of control.
chibionineko
05-12-2008, 05:23 PM
not bad but i would run 3x Neji and 2x Neji platoon only. Also your running zero draw power, Turn 4-5 might be good but if dfc fails you lose. the deck is running on a flame in a bottle with little air....
it is a mono earth deck what do you want for draw power, leaf ninja forces or udon? It could work with hinata ointment and futaba i guess.
chibionineko
05-12-2008, 05:30 PM
way too incosistent, i would never run that, the deck needs no draw power, hinata in captivity is bassically reverse draw power, and can help u stall.
I didn't think I had to state it was scarcasm.... and hinata futaba was once a widely used combo with choji.
visserac88
05-12-2008, 05:51 PM
Hinata in captivity is in no way darw power.......
Arcane_Wolf
05-12-2008, 06:11 PM
Whats Kamikiri do?
If it's there, just for the sake of being earth, you can run Haku -C- over it and then run some Hinata -O- and some Futaba's. Heck maybe Iruka too while you're at it.
visserac88
05-12-2008, 06:19 PM
Whats Kamikiri do?
If it's there, just for the sake of being earth, you can run Haku -C- over it and then run some Hinata -O- and some Futaba's. Heck maybe Iruka too while you're at it.
I would consider Futaba in a Byakugan build.....
nathanakasasuke
05-12-2008, 06:23 PM
Exactly, why does everyone seem to hate every idea that they didn't have first unless it beats them? It is like how people claim ADP is alwalys superior to Toughness and that Gigantic fan is alwalys better than wind sythe. Each card has its uses, toughness is better in a direct damage deck using suicidal action and for people that dont like using hand manipulation. Wind sythe, can be negated by them paying 2 extra chakra but it can target any jutsu, also versus early game FPS and Chidori what are the odds that they actually have the 2 extra chakra.unless they use chidori for free:D
uchiha freak
05-12-2008, 06:23 PM
i see it being played in the future we just need the right set of cards to make it
uchiha freak
05-12-2008, 06:24 PM
did u get my pm???
chibionineko
05-12-2008, 06:25 PM
I would consider Futaba in a Byakugan build.....
Exactly, why does everyone seem to hate every idea that they didn't have first unless it beats them? It is like how people claim ADP is alwalys superior to Toughness and that Gigantic fan is alwalys better than wind sythe. Each card has its uses, toughness is better in a direct damage deck using suicidal action and for people that dont like using hand manipulation. Wind sythe, can be negated by them paying 2 extra chakra but it can target any jutsu, also versus early game FPS and Chidori what are the odds that they actually have the 2 extra chakra.
visserac88
05-12-2008, 06:35 PM
Exactly, why does everyone seem to hate every idea that they didn't have first unless it beats them? It is like how people claim ADP is alwalys superior to Toughness and that Gigantic fan is alwalys better than wind sythe. Each card has its uses, toughness is better in a direct damage deck using suicidal action and for people that dont like using hand manipulation. Wind sythe, can be negated by them paying 2 extra chakra but it can target any jutsu, also versus early game FPS and Chidori what are the odds that they actually have the 2 extra chakra.
gig fan is better than any negation (besides sharingan)
If adp allowed you to look back at your hand a second time to change the cards it would be far better than toughness. I like tougness by the way.
chibionineko
05-12-2008, 06:40 PM
Personally I like toughness and wind sythe. I like wind sythe only because it allows me to negate negation. then only "negation" you can negate with gig fan are gentle fist and blade of the thunder god. notice negation is in quotes so I am not including ninja removal as strict negation.
OneWingedAngel
05-12-2008, 08:39 PM
Personally I like toughness and wind sythe. I like wind sythe only because it allows me to negate negation. then only "negation" you can negate with gig fan are gentle fist and blade of the thunder god. notice negation is in quotes so I am not including ninja removal as strict negation.
You forgot High Speed Taijutsu. I always considered Gig Fan a better negation over all, but Wind Scythe is a good side deck card if your opponent isn't running Gig Fan negeatable jutsus.
chibionineko
05-12-2008, 08:48 PM
of course I forgot high speed, I have never seen it played, I would forget naruto n-001 if I didn't just get one, but I included gentle fist and at 2 earth 1 no one even uses it so don't I get points for not forgetting it entirly or for not calling it byakugan like everyone else does? .
shikamaru pwns anyone
05-13-2008, 04:14 AM
You forgot High Speed Taijutsu. I always considered Gig Fan a better negation over all, but Wind Scythe is a good side deck card if your opponent isn't running Gig Fan negeatable jutsus.
i usally like gig fan more but there are situations where wind is better
visserac88
05-13-2008, 09:09 AM
i usally like gig fan more but there are situations where wind is better
when they mill the 2 too paY off the negation, it sucks to be on the receiving end....
Gig stops the hard core jutsus and it's on the cheap....your other jutsus can mess around with their cheaper jutsus....it's all about deck making.
shikamaru pwns anyone
05-13-2008, 12:46 PM
when they mill the 2 too paY off the negation, it sucks to be on the receiving end....
Gig stops the hard core jutsus and it's on the cheap....your other jutsus can mess around with their cheaper jutsus....it's all about deck making.
you really need to see my deck b4 you can make that judgement Viss
ModSoulKyuubi00
05-13-2008, 02:57 PM
Why Does 18 people Think DFC is Going to Be Dead? Well Its Not. I Think This Deck Still and Will Become Stronger When The Next Set Comes Out Due to More Useful Earth Ninjas.
sharingan-warrior
05-13-2008, 03:15 PM
If anything I'd say DFC will became more powerful. Hinata In Captivity will make it harder for your opponent to get BRs allowing you to stall longer until you can use DFC. Not to mention all of the Byakugan stuff coming out that can be used in most earth decks. If earth become mono playable then we'll see a lot more DFC.
i very much agree i see this deck geting so much more help and finall at long last earth is a good stabel mono deck lol srry for a long time it wasnt and i finally get to say it
visserac88
05-13-2008, 10:15 PM
....."Defense makes a strong offense"
This phrase is a lie in Naruto.........
IF however HIC is as good as ppl say, maybe the phrase could come true. Still, I'm skeptical of the idea.
Pretty sure this build wont get you 4 Br's by turn 6.
x3 Choji [usf]
x3 adp
x1-2 Naruto [?]
x3 Ino (some like this card)
x3 Shika [usf]
x2 Temari [ws]
x2-3 Neji [dbb]
x3 Gaara [tn]
x2 Ino platoon [some like it =/]
x3 1st Hokage [SR main, Theme deck for the side]
x3 Dfc
x3 Disguise
x3 [whatever is best in your local meta I guess]
x3 Hic
x3 Cage
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