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combomasterchuy
05-11-2008, 09:15 PM
one question i was using the sakura (determination to protect) effect against rock lee's hidden lotus jutsu from curse of the sand......................is that valid or sakura cant protect me against that.

SkarFace
05-11-2008, 10:17 PM
one question i was using the sakura (determination to protect) effect against rock lee's hidden lotus jutsu from curse of the sand......................is that valid or sakura cant protect me against that.

no that cheatin hahahahaha

the hiden lotus has priority

Hiei_Zero
05-11-2008, 10:32 PM
no that cheatin hahahahaha

the hiden lotus has priority

Or you are wrong. Cause ninja effects don't chain. sakura can stop the discard.

SkarFace
05-11-2008, 10:49 PM
Or you are wrong. Cause ninja effects don't chain. sakura can stop the discard.

oh ok then that ninja efect does not count on the exchange of jutsu?

has to be before the exchange?

Ninja Pebble
05-11-2008, 11:09 PM
oh ok then that ninja efect does not count on the exchange of jutsu?

has to be before the exchange?
Ninja effects are faster then jutsu effects.

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SkarFace
05-11-2008, 11:16 PM
:confused:Ninja effects are faster then jutsu effects.

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ok but the efect was that :

you can put this ninja in injure status , in that case no ninja in this ninjas team can be remove from play by the efects of your oponents jutsus or ninja efets durin the turn .

that means that the oponent cant do jutsus of damage , remove an discard durin the turn ?

or only jutsus of removing ninjas ?

and does damages durin the turn , and discard are the same as remove from play?

or are diferen things:confused:

OneWingedAngel
05-12-2008, 09:26 AM
:confused:

ok but the efect was that :

you can put this ninja in injure status , in that case no ninja in this ninjas team can be remove from play by the efects of your oponents jutsus or ninja efets durin the turn .

that means that the oponent cant do jutsus of damage , remove an discard durin the turn ?

or only jutsus of removing ninjas ?

and does damages durin the turn , and discard are the same as remove from play?

or are diferen things:confused:

Dealing damage and discarding are different. If a card deals 2 damage to a ninja then the ninja will be discarded due the game mechanics that say when a ninja has been dealt 2 damage it's discarded. It's not the effect of the card. Sakura will protect you from jutstu the remove your ninjas from play, but those ninjas can still be discarded by damage.

jutsumaster
05-12-2008, 10:06 AM
sorry SkarFace but he's right

combomasterchuy
05-12-2008, 11:25 AM
then sakura will protect me from hidden lotus or not???????????:confused:

SkarFace
05-12-2008, 12:30 PM
Dealing damage and discarding are different. If a card deals 2 damage to a ninja then the ninja will be discarded due the game mechanics that say when a ninja has been dealt 2 damage it's discarded. It's not the effect of the card. Sakura will protect you from jutstu the remove your ninjas from play, but those ninjas can still be discarded by damage.

but what about jutsus that discard ninjas not the ones ho does damages

exmaple hiden lotus J-111

target: 1 nija battling agains the user.

Effect : your oponent flips a ninja blade coin twice.
If they get heads both times , this effect isnegated.
Ifnot, discard the target.

and combomasterchuy says that the sakura effect negates this jutsu ??:confused::confused:

OneWingedAngel
05-12-2008, 01:46 PM
but what about jutsus that discard ninjas not the ones ho does damages

exmaple hiden lotus J-111

target: 1 nija battling agains the user.

Effect : your oponent flips a ninja blade coin twice.
If they get heads both times , this effect isnegated.
Ifnot, discard the target.

and combomasterchuy says that the sakura effect negates this jutsu ??:confused::confused:

Yes, discard is a form of remove from play. Sakura will protect you from this Hidden Lotus. However, the Hidden Lotus from ER that deals damage will still work.

I'm sorry if there was confusion, I assumed he was talking about the ER Hidden Lotus.

tobi is obito
05-12-2008, 01:48 PM
i don't know :D

combomasterchuy
05-12-2008, 08:24 PM
told you skarface........................im keeping that sakura in my deck.... i mean if you want a rematch but only if you want a rematch.je je je:cool:

SkarFace
05-12-2008, 08:41 PM
told you skarface........................im keeping that sakura in my deck.... i mean if you want a rematch but only if you want a rematch.je je je:cool:

but still you cheeted because the ninja effect has to be before the exchange of jutsu not durin..:D because.............Ninja effects are faster then jutsu effects.

Hiei_Zero
05-12-2008, 08:46 PM
but still you cheeted because the ninja effect has to be before the exchange of jutsu not durin..:D because.............Ninja effects are faster then jutsu effects.

No that isn't true he can activate his ninja effects whenever he wants as long as teh timing is correct on the card which for sakura is anypoint during the turn. and he can respond to a jutsu with her effect but you can't respond with anyting.

SkarFace
05-12-2008, 08:55 PM
No that isn't true he can activate his ninja effects whenever he wants as long as teh timing is correct on the card which for sakura is anypoint during the turn. and he can respond to a jutsu with her effect but you can't respond with anyting.

OK in that case sakura beats anything exept dameges ?

or he has to activated it before the jutsu or after , to make the sakura effect work:confused:

OneWingedAngel
05-12-2008, 09:09 PM
No that isn't true he can activate his ninja effects whenever he wants as long as teh timing is correct on the card which for sakura is anypoint during the turn. and he can respond to a jutsu with her effect but you can't respond with anyting.

This is correct. I just want to add that ninja effects can act as interupts. Notice that some card, like ADP, say "during the exchange of jutsu". That means the effect can be used at any time during the exchange of jutsu. Other effect like Gaara TN and the Sakura you're talking about don't have a specific time when you can use the effect. Hence, these ninja effects can activate any time you want; after a jutsu is played, during jutsu resolution, before the exchange of jutsu, or during the showdown.

OneWingedAngel
05-12-2008, 09:23 PM
OK in that case sakura beats anything exept dameges ?

or he has to activated it before the jutsu or after , to make the sakura effect work:confused:

To clear it up a little more, Sakura can use her effect as an interupt and can protect you from removal jutsus after they are played. As for ninja effect, these are not put on the chain, so if Sakura is battling against APW, for example, whoever the attacker is will have priority to activate there effect first. So if the attacker has Sakura, she can be activated first and the ninjas in her team will be protected. If APW is the attacker, then his effect can remove a ninja before Sakura has a chance to activate.

And to reiterate, Sakura does not protect from damage.

I hope this clear everything up.

SkarFace
05-12-2008, 09:31 PM
To clear it up a little more, Sakura can use her effect as an interupt and can protect you from removal jutsus after they are played. As for ninja effect, these are not put on the chain, so if Sakura is battling against APW, for example, whoever the attacker is will have priority to activate there effect first. So if the attacker has Sakura, she can be activated first and the ninjas in her team will be protected. If APW is the attacker, then his effect can remove a ninja before Sakura has a chance to activate.

And to reiterate, Sakura does not protect from damage.

I hope this clear everything up.

ok that clears much thanks .


as 4 you combomasterchuy....you won 4 now......:mad:

Ninja Pebble
05-12-2008, 09:33 PM
To clear it up a little more, Sakura can use her effect as an interupt and can protect you from removal jutsus after they are played. As for ninja effect, these are not put on the chain, so if Sakura is battling against APW, for example, whoever the attacker is will have priority to activate there effect first. So if the attacker has Sakura, she can be activated first and the ninjas in her team will be protected. If APW is the attacker, then his effect can remove a ninja before Sakura has a chance to activate.

And to reiterate, Sakura does not protect from damage.

I hope this clear everything up.
This dose not help at all I'm more confused then ever?:confused::confused::confused: Something about Sakura doing damage with Hidden Lotus and APW jumps in and throw her to the bottom and she get fisked if she dosent atteck first???:confused: lol jk

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combomasterchuy
05-13-2008, 11:46 AM
told you...........like i say i can give you the rematch where and when ever you like.....................:cool:


pd....are we going to the convention is this saturday at el cecut...:confused::confused: