Waiya's AX Deck Tsunami!

[waiya]

Quick notes
Overall this deck is about 34-12
At AX After day 1 I was 16th
day 2 droped when I hit 30th with only one round left
(decks with 3x haku SR 3x Sasuke SR AND 3x Naruto SR are hard to deal with )

Ninja
0 drop
1x Shino Aburame
2x Sakura Haruno (Ablity for Adjustment)
2x Kaede Ureshino
2x Haku (Starter)
3x Konohamaru (Grandson)

1 Drop

2 drop
1x Demon Bros. Gouzu
1x Demon Bros. Meizu

3 Drop
1x Ebisu
1x Haku (SR)

4 drop
2x Kurenai

5 drop
2x Zabuza

Jutsu

2x Shadow Shuriken Jutsu
3x Water style: Water Dragon Jutsu
3x Water Style: Water Vortex Jutsu
2x Water Prison Jutsu
2x Hidden Mist Jutsu
1x Ice Crystal Mirrors

Missions

1x Unwanted Child
2x Worst for last
3x Bingo Book
3x One Morning

Totals
Ninja 18
Jutsu 13
mission 9

Wind 13
Lightning 3
Water 24

Sideboard

3x Evil death Illusion
2x Water clone
1x Unwanted child
1x worst for last
2x Kakashi Hatake (copycat)
1x shino

Notes

Almost every game (except the loses) i found my self with zabuza out on turn 4 and kurenai out on turn 3.

almost every opening hand had some type of draw mech. to grab out more ninja

On 3 occasions i was able to drop Zabuza on turn 3 with worst for last because of alot of people play konohamaru and then droping kurenai. Now its important to note that this play is really most advatagous when you play second with this deck . Also this deck will only get stronger once COTS is released due to the fact that ALOT of people are going to combo kanohamaru with orochimaru... HELLO TURN 2 ZABUZA!

shadow shuriken ended up being HUGE against water/fire when used to back up my vortex.

With the high mission count i was almost never short on chakara nore found my self just burning cards for chakara with out some type of effect.

Now i know the first post is going to flame my addition of the Kakashi when i dont play any other fire but with worst for last he becomes playable.

with 8 Draw Mech. cards Plus the unwanted child this deck curves out about 85 to 90 percent of the time. it takes a REALLY horrible draw not to.

There are no turn 1 ninja ... this is mainly due to the fact that wind/water dont have any, and i did not want to mess up the very delicate element count by adding naruto's or sasuke's besides I like most people dont have those cards in the amount that is needed to draw them at a good rate.
this lack of ninja was compensated with extra turn 0 ninja.

please as always try it out before you critque it also ill put a poll rating on this thread. ( i keep for getting to do that)

[Jin]

I like thetheme and strategy of this deck, i played something very near it myself to test out the potential element combos for a week or two.
which naruto/sasuke you talkin about? as long as its not the SRs i can drop some your way at gencon indy no prob if your going.
i mean its not like i dont have 51 Asumas... LOL but i traded for 90% of them... that will be known why by those who were at origins

[waiya]

yeah I was talking about the SR's

I got sooooo tired of seeing them at AX

[All Seeing Eyes]

Very cool idea, I'll be testing it soon before I critique. ;)

I like the idea and I'm glad to hear you guys did rather well.

[Jin]

yeah congrats on makin the cut with TOTAL JANK!

i dont mean that in a bad way.

[waiya]

lol who gave me a 1 star?

[Palmdalex]

10 star to even out the 1 star

[Saigo]

There he goes again. Originality at its finest (well....under shika-ino-cho newaiz).

Id consider droping your unwanted children for a few more ninjas (or even some more wind to balance your chakra out a lil). Id rather have 3 Zabuzas and two hakus and/or brothers than a gamble card. Your main problem with the deck is power. Zabuza and kurenai simply cannot hold up against a team of kakashi, zabuza, and hokage. especially if they have enough chakra to bump someone, or pull a water dragon. Vortex + shadow is a fantastic combo, but its meaningless if they trigram your user or vortex (which you can't really deal with without fire). Your only prevention (hidden mist), will only be delaying the inevitable. You can't win consistantly with jutsus (at least against someone running anything paired w/fire). But still, considering the metagame, every deck you play against is your worst match-up. You really did fantastic in ax when this is put in perspective.

Heres what I suggest.

-2 haku (0 drop)
-1 crystal ice mirrors
-2 (or one) unwanted chilren.
-1 water dragon

+2 kakashi (0 drop)
+1 Haku (3 drop, super is prefered of course)
+1 Gouzu
+1 Meizu
+1 water prison

Now you have 21 ninjas, with much more power than before. Add that to the the magic potential of worst for last, and your intense draw and your good. You may not like the fact that I splashed in some fire, but in the end, sacing two water (which you really have plenty of) for imho, the best 4 drop in the game, is no big loss. I also think water prision will help you more than dragon. Chakra cost is less, your more likely to deal double damage (and an all kill with zabuza) with it than dragon, and most importantly, your sr haku can use it without fear of shadow/eye/mist ect. Trust me on this one, I played alot of fire/water. If I could run 4 an 2 I would.

Looks great so far. I'll come up with some more suggestions la8tr.

[waiya]

ok tourney report

24 man tourny at cc

round one Taijutsu/disaster rush

2 w 1L

round 2
Fire water control
2w 0L

Round 3
Fire water control
2w 0L

round 4
Fire water control
2L 0w

key thing to not the only round i lost came from joshua who placed 4th at AX ignoring his most unsavory actions at AX his deck is very well put together and tough to beat. both matchs i had to mull twice!.

new record
40w 15L 0 intentional draws

[Saigo]

Crap, I wish I coulda made it. Good job.

You gonna go to njoys tomorrow?

***points to post #8

[--h]

I'll tell you what man, I play a variant of this deck and I vote yours a 9. It's one of those things that makes me laugh when I'm wandering around other sections of this forum and find people complaining about finding/not finding/more/less/increase ratio/decrease ratio of super rare cards, when you can make a decent deck with one or two (I have to pull it off with none, so I adjust my jutsus a bit to compensate). Keep up the good record with it, and from what I've seen so far, COTS should bolster Water/Wind decks up right nice.

[waiya]

To --h
you are correct about COTS i have seen about 4 to 5 cards that will really change this deck to quite possible shut down Fire/water thanks for the kudos for the low SR amounts. When i built it i kept in mind that alot of kids play this and can not afford to buy alot of the booster to find 3x of something SR. and mind you the 2 SR in this deck are not completely nessasary in fact I usually dont run it with the mirrors at all anymore.

Saigo

Yup i was at Njoy today dude. I kicked bootie. actually by the time you posted #8 i had already changed my side board to something very close to yours lol.

2x kakashi 4 drop
2x water clone
1x water dragon
1x ebisu
1x crystal ice mirrors
1x ebisu
2x death illusion

Now on to today's tourney report

3 round swiss at Njoy games

1st round
Fire Water Curve/control

2w 0L

2nd round (Player : alex 2nd place at AX with AX deck)
Fire/water

1W 2L

3rd Round

Fire/water control (hummm I think im seeing a pattern here)

2W 0L

Over all standings

1st Alex
2nd Anthony (thats me Waiya)
3rd hummm he has yet to tell me his name lol

total Win/lose

45W 18L 0 intentional Draws ( Yay me)

[Saigo]

Alex got second :eek:? IIRC, during the first day, he didn't do so well. go Alex.

And go you for the 45 / 18.

I wish I coulda made it to njoys/cc this week. It sux being broke all the time. You goin to either next week?

[waiya]

maybe IDK because I'm taking my girl out to Disneyland do that is really going to hurt my cash.... but maybe.

[Saigo]

maybe IDK because I'm taking my girl out to Disneyland do that is really going to hurt my cash.... but maybe.

I know the feeling....

[Keniko]

Awesome deck btw... where is njoy... keep hearing about it and I would really like to come by sometime... As for July 28 I expect you two (Saigo & waiya) to be at Comic Cult we are running a pre-release... We could also go across the street to wacth Miami Vice... haha.

I cant really say much about this deck seeing as how I think its perfect as it is. Coils will be alot of fun though... I look forward to seeing the evoloution of the deck.

Peace,
Ken

[Saigo]

Awesome deck btw... where is njoy... keep hearing about it and I would really like to come by sometime... As for July 28 I expect you two (Saigo & waiya) to be at Comic Cult we are running a pre-release... We could also go across the street to wacth Miami Vice... haha.

I cant really say much about this deck seeing as how I think its perfect as it is. Coils will be alot of fun though... I look forward to seeing the evoloution of the deck.

Peace,
Ken

Njoys is on the border between northridge and reseda. Not nearly as big as cc, but the people for some reason or another, seem to be better at the game.

I'll be there for coils.

[waiya]

ill prolly go to both. i look forward to what you to guys can make on your feet .

[YamiRich]

To --h
you are correct about COTS i have seen about 4 to 5 cards that will really change this deck to quite possible shut down Fire/water thanks for the kudos for the low SR amounts. When i built it i kept in mind that alot of kids play this and can not afford to buy alot of the booster to find 3x of something SR. and mind you the 2 SR in this deck are not completely nessasary in fact I usually dont run it with the mirrors at all anymore.

Saigo

Yup i was at Njoy today dude. I kicked bootie. actually by the time you posted #8 i had already changed my side board to something very close to yours lol.

2x kakashi 4 drop
2x water clone
1x water dragon
1x ebisu
1x crystal ice mirrors
1x ebisu
2x death illusion

Now on to today's tourney report

3 round swiss at Njoy games

1st round
Fire Water Curve/control

2w 0L

2nd round (Player : alex 2nd place at AX with AX deck)
Fire/water

1W 2L

3rd Round

Fire/water control (hummm I think im seeing a pattern here)

2W 0L

Over all standings

1st Alex
2nd Anthony (thats me Waiya)
3rd hummm he has yet to tell me his name lol

total Win/lose

45W 18L 0 intentional Draws ( Yay me)


third place was me! Richard is my name. I should've got first place but when I was playing Alex for first place, Alex whined about not having time in this final match. So the judge changed the rules in the middle of the match and i got screwed. If there was time, like there should have been, I would have won and got first place, but got third cuz of crappy tiebreakers :( .

Anyways, I'll ttyl Anthony.

[Shinsetsu_Yagami]

Oh god more skilled people go to CC, /wrists.
Im alittle afraid to come back to place, but yeah Coils will make me come back, I have to buy a box after all, it's a bad habit i've had since the days of Yu Yu Hakusho. Even if I am in the hole for money. Hopefully catch you guys today I got alittle work to take care of beforehand, bank transactions etc.

[Keniko]

Hey... I wanna see an updated version with coils... Stop trying to deck people out... lol j/k :p

Seriously theres been a lot of wind/water decks running around and I personally like you're version the best.

Hope to see an updated list soon...

Laters.

[waiya]

there is a coils version in the works but it wont be done for at least a week..

right now im focusing on mill reborn and TEACHERS UNITE!
which ill be posting soon