Decks to Beat

[Keniko]

To all Novice players and battle tested vets alike. Here is what to expect at your local tourny or what not.

Decks are not in any specific order. Also if I did not use your version of the deck I am sorry I just picked the first one that came into mind.

Control - Like to slow it down and take control of the game by using hi powered jutsu and devastating ninja's? Then this is where you want to look.
"Fire Hydrant" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1591)
"Eye for an Eye" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1452)
"Sasuke's Harem!" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2693)
"Electric Boogaloo" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2263)
"Watery Mind's of Soil and Air" (http://http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=6884)
"Harem Control" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3483)
"Tsunami!" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=4459)
"Anti-Chakra Beatdown" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=4346)
"Disaster Control" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=4711)
"Waterfall Deck" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=6403)

Aggro - Who needs all that strategy? Just give me a kunai and let me get to work!
"Breakthru" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3196)
"Big Green Monster" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3417)
"Hit the Ground Running" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1053)
"Blaze of Glory" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2736&page=3)
"MAd Rush" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3917&page=2)
"Curve Aggro" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3214)
"Simoon" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2262)

Combo - Want to hit your opponent with something really nasty? I know you do.
"Nine-Tailed Disaster" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2765)

Mill - A great idea can be found here... If only we could make it better somehow.
"SUPER SECRET shino-ino-cho!" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1900)

Mental - I know Coils isnt out yet but theres no harm in getting a head start.
Mental Power (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=4846)

Fun Decks - Tired of playing with or against the same old decks? *cough fire/water *cough. If you want to try something different feel free to test out one of these decks.
"Parasitic Love" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2854)
"Ice, Ice, Baby!" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=5481)
"Doggy Style" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=4684)
"Lee-Grow" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=4485)
"Combat in Extreme Measures" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=5164)

Also I did this quite fast so if the deck isnt under the right category let me know...

My "Decks to Beat" thread is not intended to disrespect anyone on these boards or what not.

Do you have any nominations for the "Decks to Beat"? If so please provide the link (link only please) for it and we or whoever will come by and take a look at the deck.

Let us create a solid list so that everyone will know what to expect thus can properly prepare for it.

Thanks ahead of time.

Sincerely,
"K"

P.S. Not all the decks in here are in their final stage and are subject to change. So drop by and please comment/suggest on these decks it would be much appreciated.

I know that their are probably a great deal of decks that I havent even bugun to imagine so get out there and crank out those decks!

Also note that everyone might be secretive about their decks right now with Anime Expo and Origins on the horizon... myself included.

[All Seeing Eyes]

The choices look solid. Although, I question the current list of "SUPER SECRET shino-ino-cho" now that Sprinting in the Mist Jutsu is kaput, basically. However, there will be different versions of the "Mill" deck. Count on it.

Simoon definatly is one of the decks to beat.

Fire Hydrant(or some version of Fire/Water control) is everywhere. Literally, that's probably the most played deck, at least in my area.

Uzumaki Naruko's Clone Deck or Teepa's Sasuke's Harem deck could fill the Clone Status, since there aren't as much Clone Decklists around. The decks just need a tiny bit of fine tuning.

And for "Eye for an Eye," remember that I run a control version. There are other Byakugan/Sharingan Eye decks that are more aggro and use cards like Kakashi Hatake: Confidence in Subordinates instead of my control variations.

[Keniko]

Fire Hydrant is defintely the top played deck in my area as well. Not too long ago I would have posted the Att High Cost GatoLock deck.

Maybe we can get this thread stickied.

Also I agree that some form of mill deck will be running around.

[Kirigakure no Kijin]

To all Novice players and battle tested vets alike. Here is what to expect at your local tourny or what not.

If any of you have any insight into what you believe the top decks are at the moment please come by a leave comment or two.

Decks are not in any specific order. Also if I did not use your version of the deck I am sorry I just picked the first one that came into mind.

"Fire Hydrant" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1591)
"SUPER SECRET shino-ino-cho!" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1900)
"Eye for an Eye" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1452)
"Hit the Ground Running" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1053)

Last but not least... Hopefully it qualifies as a deck to beat.

"Simoon" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2262)

Other decks that will be posted when someone finds a good one to post are:

Clone Status
Lightning/Fire Taijitsu (The Rolling Thunder Version tended to fade in the late game.)

Let us create a solid list so that everyone will know what to expect thus can properly prepare for it.

Hopefully once we get a good list of decks in here, I can do some playtesting against all of them and give match-up reports.
well now i know what i can play test against with my deck (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2634) and hopefully my friends could lend me some cards so i can make the decks

-Dattebayo!

[All Seeing Eyes]

If you can't get a hold of all the cards needed, just make proxies of the cards for playtesting ONLY.


Just as an example, this is how I use for proxies of a Ninja is as follows:

Sasuke Uchiha
Ninja
Fire
1
0
Leaf/Genin/Male/Sharingan Eye
[Open Your Eyes]
This Ninja cannot be the target of
your opponent’s Jutsu cards which
require 2 or less Jutsu costs (specific
symbols are counted as 1 as well).
Healthy: 3/0 Injured: 1/0
Flame

[Teepa]

The choices look solid. Although, I question the current list of "SUPER SECRET shino-ino-cho" now that Sprinting in the Mist Jutsu is kaput, basically. However, there will be different versions of the "Mill" deck. Count on it.

Simoon definatly is one of the decks to beat.

Fire Hydrant(or some version of Fire/Water control) is everywhere. Literally, that's probably the most played deck, at least in my area.

Uzumaki Naruko's Clone Deck or Teepa's Sasuke's Harem deck could fill the Clone Status, since there aren't as much Clone Decklists around. The decks just need a tiny bit of fine tuning.

And for "Eye for an Eye," remember that I run a control version. There are other Byakugan/Sharingan Eye decks that are more aggro and use cards like Kakashi Hatake: Confidence in Subordinates instead of my control variations.


To even be mentioned as a possible deck to beat for me is amazing, I seriously think my Sasuke's Harem is coming along quite nicely, I just need to get a few more cards for it, including the AFA version of sakura! And of course scapegoat, then maybe it will be a force to be reckoned with. I'm truly surprised that I can create a deck that can actually win! I havn't been able to do that since my Elf deck in MTG. I do really like the idea of my Sasuke's Harem deck as it is a mixture of Power/Clone/Control all clumped into one.

[All Seeing Eyes]

Perhaps it would be a good idea to have this thread stickied, though it might make some people mad that their deck isn't on here.

To Teepa, your deck is coming along nicely. A little more work and it could be very solid.

P.S. Goblins > Elves

[waiya]

I too am very proud that my deck is up here. And I am currently addressing the Sprinting in the mist issue and will hopefully have a good fix for it very soon.

[nara-shikamaru]

*looks around confused* my deck that good?Cool, hopefully its that good although i now can switch out the deck for water /fire flawlessly, kinda crazy

Thanks!

Gato transport ruling broke my stall decks heart....lol

[Paizuri]

I play a Fire Lightning deck based on stalling with Naruto SR, scapegoat then scapegoat with the 3rg Hokage. It puts up good numbers vs eye/byakugan, hydrant, rock lee beats, but it has trouble with our fire/wind curve deck. Substitution Jutsu is so good. Almost alsway have to save a eye for it. I will post it later.

[phoenixnation]

Paizuri I couldn't agree with you more on your above statement, and since I am the guy who you playtest with. I think that I should know. I think there are some better deck types out there right now and I would also like to find some time to post them, but I might wait until after Origins to post some of my Top Tier decks. Sorry everyone.

- Vinny

[nara-shikamaru]

yes, well these decks work well, and put up very well,

[phoenixnation]

yes, well these decks work well, and put up very well,
I'm not saying that they don't. I just thought it was a pretty bold statement that was said about them being the decks to beat. That was all.

- Vinny

[nara-shikamaru]

well these are the decks the poster, and others have agreed, on this board and what theyve seen are the top level right now...there isnt much variation out there right now, everything is mostly a variation of something else. im surprised my deck even made it....

[Paizuri]

It's not that we feel the decks are bad, its mainy about the card number choices. In our testing we have found when a deck hits it's curve it can be an auto-win vs decks that don't. Also many decks are based on abilities and/or tricks and we been noticing that flat out stats just win games. Neji (no ability) and Sasuke (no ability) are great examples of this. I just wish that Sasuke had the Sharigan trait.

Fire/Wind is one of our best decks, mainly because wind allows us to cycle through most of our deck and hit every drop. Then late game one morning lets us get more cards for more jutsus and stuff. Fire and the sharigan/combo is just nuts also. When this deck goes Haruno, Sasuke, Mizuki, Ebisu, Yuhi, Kakashi, Hokage it rarely loses. Inner Sakura, Capturing Tora, One morning allow the deck to hit every drop. Again when you can consistantly make the deck to hit every drop you should win. I playtested many decks and the main problem I have had, is losing because I missed my drops.

Fire/Water is good also, but again we use the same mentality (hit all of our drops) 3 tora and 3 book are a must. I dont care for the ones that sacrifce early to win late coz sometimes you dig to big of a hole, also card advantage sucks because you have to charge a lot of chakra for the bigger Jutsus. Also those version tend to rely on those Jutsus and opposing Sharigan Eyes can hurt.

Naruto is so underated right now. I was amazed to see imposter going for about $17 when most SR's are going for $25 plus, also I dont see him in many decks. There is a really good deck that can abuse him so bad and it's probably the deck I will run at Origins. Its having a few problems hitting its curve so maybe I wont run it but the deck's ability to stall can make up for not hitting it's curve.

Again Wind/Fire is a strong deck that many people never mentioned until "K" posted his Simoon deck. Many think Fire/Water or Fire/Lightning is the best deck, but Fire/Wind is so good and "k" if you adjust the numbers of your "simoon" deck it will play much better. Anyway this is just my opinion and maybe i dont know anything. ;)

[All Seeing Eyes]

I'm not saying that they don't. I just thought it was a pretty bold statement that was said about them being the decks to beat. That was all.

- Vinny

If you have better decks, then please, by all means, post them. It's what this thread was made for. By no means is this thread meant to boast or brag about said decks. It's to help others in the Naruto CCG community understand what they should expect to face.


And also keep in mind that many of the deck lists are outdated. ;)

[Dante_Night]

It's not that we feel the decks are bad, its mainy about the card number choices. In our testing we have found when a deck hits it's curve it can be an auto-win vs decks that don't. Also many decks are based on abilities and/or tricks and we been noticing that flat out stats just win games. Neji (no ability) and Sasuke (no ability) are great examples of this. I just wish that Sasuke had the Sharigan trait.

Fire/Wind is one of our best decks, mainly because wind allows us to cycle through most of our deck and hit every drop. Then late game one morning lets us get more cards for more jutsus and stuff. Fire and the sharigan/combo is just nuts also. When this deck goes Haruno, Sasuke, Mizuki, Ebisu, Yuhi, Kakashi, Hokage it rarely loses. Inner Sakura, Capturing Tora, One morning allow the deck to hit every drop. Again when you can consistantly make the deck to hit every drop you should win. I playtested many decks and the main problem I have had, is losing because I missed my drops.

Fire/Water is good also, but again we use the same mentality (hit all of our drops) 3 tora and 3 book are a must. I dont care for the ones that sacrifce early to win late coz sometimes you dig to big of a hole, also card advantage sucks because you have to charge a lot of chakra for the bigger Jutsus. Also those version tend to rely on those Jutsus and opposing Sharigan Eyes can hurt.

Naruto is so underated right now. I was amazed to see imposter going for about $17 when most SR's are going for $25 plus, also I dont see him in many decks. There is a really good deck that can abuse him so bad and it's probably the deck I will run at Origins. Its having a few problems hitting its curve so maybe I wont run it but the deck's ability to stall can make up for not hitting it's curve.

Again Wind/Fire is a strong deck that many people never mentioned until "K" posted his Simoon deck. Many think Fire/Water or Fire/Lightning is the best deck, but Fire/Wind is so good and "k" if you adjust the numbers of your "simoon" deck it will play much better. Anyway this is just my opinion and maybe i dont know anything. ;)

Well if you hit your drops you'll have a better go at it, I don't think anyway is going to say no to that, but that's because its a basic part of the game. And I think some of the decks listed here do. Inner Sakura and Bingo Book are very dangerous cards in the right hand, very dangerous, but they can also make you lose big if you don't plan right and see what your opponent could do. Before I got a handle on it, I was constantly making errors with Inner Sakura, setting up my next turns, to see a play error come about and a ninja I needed go into the battle rewards of the opponent.

Bingo book may use less skill but it still is dangerous, but I'll say it again the decks here have a good grip on the small metagame we have. We can't have a huge metagame with the number of cards out there, so you can only have so much innovation for the time being. Though I wouldn't consider any deck out there 'auto-win' even if they get in their prime, the opponent can sometimes just be as lucky as you and make one less error than you. That can happen.

[RjtheSennin]

It's not that we feel the decks are bad, its mainy about the card number choices. In our testing we have found when a deck hits it's curve it can be an auto-win vs decks that don't. Also many decks are based on abilities and/or tricks and we been noticing that flat out stats just win games. Neji (no ability) and Sasuke (no ability) are great examples of this. I just wish that Sasuke had the Sharigan trait.

Fire/Wind is one of our best decks, mainly because wind allows us to cycle through most of our deck and hit every drop. Then late game one morning lets us get more cards for more jutsus and stuff. Fire and the sharigan/combo is just nuts also. When this deck goes Haruno, Sasuke, Mizuki, Ebisu, Yuhi, Kakashi, Hokage it rarely loses. Inner Sakura, Capturing Tora, One morning allow the deck to hit every drop. Again when you can consistantly make the deck to hit every drop you should win. I playtested many decks and the main problem I have had, is losing because I missed my drops.

Fire/Water is good also, but again we use the same mentality (hit all of our drops) 3 tora and 3 book are a must. I dont care for the ones that sacrifce early to win late coz sometimes you dig to big of a hole, also card advantage sucks because you have to charge a lot of chakra for the bigger Jutsus. Also those version tend to rely on those Jutsus and opposing Sharigan Eyes can hurt.

Naruto is so underated right now. I was amazed to see imposter going for about $17 when most SR's are going for $25 plus, also I dont see him in many decks. There is a really good deck that can abuse him so bad and it's probably the deck I will run at Origins. Its having a few problems hitting its curve so maybe I wont run it but the deck's ability to stall can make up for not hitting it's curve.

Again Wind/Fire is a strong deck that many people never mentioned until "K" posted his Simoon deck. Many think Fire/Water or Fire/Lightning is the best deck, but Fire/Wind is so good and "k" if you adjust the numbers of your "simoon" deck it will play much better. Anyway this is just my opinion and maybe i dont know anything. ;)

Wow, just wow.
First of all, as a player of Fire/Wind I can agree that the deck is extremely powerful. But it seems as if you guys only concern yourself with power. I know what you guys are thinking:
"There's only one set, there can't possibly be much control"
Yet there is. Running lots of draw cards, as you suggest, against SIC/Deckout will only bring you down. Not to mention that having big numbers in this game relevatily mean squat since ANY ninja can block you (unless something prevents it) It's the powerful jutsus that turn the game around. If one single copy of Water Style: Giant Vortex Jutsu resolves, no matter what deck you're playing, your odds of winning are extremely low.

Running lots of low cost characters is a problem. You don't want to be underdropping later in the game becuase it sets you at a big disadvantage. Having just the right amount allows you to have atleast 1-2 in you're opening hand.

Then again, there is really just one set. And no really major tournaments have taken place. So i guess everyone has their own opinion.

[nara-shikamaru]

but thats just the beauty of this game, in the right hands any deck can be awesome, i could run a water just to get off zabuza, and then carry over to other elements that wouldnt be expected.Its all in the strategy.I used to be strict 2 element, but i looked and said why waste time trying so hard to limit myself when i can spread myself out comfortably and pull myself a huge advantage.Ive been incorporating kurenai into every deck ive made, no matter the element, i feel shes just that useful
Heck, id play sr naruto, if i could ever get my hands on one, i dont think a single az player has landed one yet TMK.

more to the point i watched someone beat a made deck, with an out of the box structure deck....and the made deck wasnt too shabby...

[Keniko]

Look for me to post a Disaster Deck soon... I am currently trying to build the most optimal build so that I can properly play test against it...

Its interesting your run Mizuki over Iruka Scapegoat. At first thats what I used but Iruka proved to be to valuble.

This is not meant to bring anyone down... I am truly sorry if I hurt anyones feelings or what not. That was not my intention, the purpose was so that we can accumalate a solid list of the best decks out there. I am sure someone will go rogue and might possibly blow everyone away then again the decks on this list will most likely be played in numbers thus increasing the chances of it winning.

I'm sure there might be a deck that we've never taught of that someone is devising at this moment. If you want to keep the secret till the Genin Tourny in July by all means do that.

Thanks all the feed back has been great. Keep it coming.

[Jyoushiro]

I nominate my Water/Lightning Deck (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2263). Mostly just get it some attention since for some reason no one will touch it.

[Keniko]

To all Novice players and battle tested vets alike. Here is what to expect at your local tourny or what not.

Decks are not in any specific order. Also if I did not use your version of the deck I am sorry I just picked the first one that came into mind.


"Fire Hydrant" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1591)
"SUPER SECRET shino-ino-cho!" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1900)
"Eye for an Eye" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1452)
"Hit the Ground Running" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1053)
"Blaze of Glory" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2736&page=3)
"Sasuke's Harem!" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2693)
"Electric Boogaloo" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2263)

Last but not least...

"Simoon" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2262)

Other decks that will be posted when someone finds a good one to post are:

Clone Status

Disaster Deck

If any of you have any insight into what you believe the top decks are at the moment please come by and nominate them or just leave a comment or two.

Let us create a solid list so that everyone will know what to expect thus can properly prepare for it.

Hopefully once we get a good list of decks in here, I can do some playtesting against all of them and give match-up reports.

P.S. Not all the decks in here are in their final stage and are subject to change. So drop by and please comment/suggest on these decks it would be much appreciated.

P.S.S. Lol. I know that their are probably a great deal of decks that I havent even bugeun to imagine so get out there and crank out those decks!

[Tirus]

Nice list. Any chance you could update the first post to list all the decks to beat?

[Keniko]

Done and Done. Could we also see about getting this thread stickied?

[All Seeing Eyes]

The additions certainly broaden the horizon.

Good update.

[Dante_Night]

I nominate my Water/Lightning Deck (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2263). Mostly just get it some attention since for some reason no one will touch it.

Mustn't touch, it smells of almonds, must not touch, but must touch the forbiddeness...:eek:

On a side less funnier note, good update to the second notion!

[lod_leader2003]

okay...you said it was allright to post a deck here...here is my deck.

deck name: "Sharingan"
type: fire/lightning(mostly)

okaaay...

ninja:20
2 Konohamaru-"Konohamaru Corps Formed!:
1 Naruto Uzumaki
2 Naruto Uzumaki-"Nine-Tailed Chakra"
3 Kiba Inuzuka-"Combination"
3 Akamaru-"Partner"
1 Sasuke Uchiha
2 Sasuke Uchiha-"Open Your Eyes"
2 Iruka Umino-"Devoted to Pupil"
3 Kakashi Hatake
1 The Third Hokage-"Village Governor"

Jutsu:16
2 8 Trigram Divination Seal Spell Formula
3 Escape Jutsu(EARTH! I KNOW!)
3 A Thousand Years of Death
3 Kunai
3 Sharingan Eye
2 Fire Style: Fire Ball Jutsu

Mission:4
2 The Most Unpredictable Ninja
2 Oath of Pain


okay--mostly lightning/fire, except for escape jutsu. its too good to NOT put in though. My Deck is still Water/Fire ONLY, Basically.

If I get a Kakashi Hatake-"Copycat Ninja", then i will put one of him in in place of a regular Kakashi.

This deck was built from the cards i have in my collection. the only thing i think i need to change is putting in one Kakashi Hatake "Copycat Ninja".

then my deck will be finished, though it still is insane right now:D :D (braggy braggy);)

[RjtheSennin]

Add another Hokage

[Smokealottapotamus]

some of those decks have good innovation, but alot are just beatdown of different types, which is not a bad thing as of now, i think we will really see who can build decks when the next set comes out and some of the older strategies come and go. ANBU/Gaara/Formation decks FTW

[Keniko]

ANBU/Gaara/Formation decks FTW

Forgot to put Orichimaru in there.

Lod Leader maybe you could post that deck in its on thread so that people can comment there and not in here... It just makes things a little messy.

Change your Iruka to Scapegoat when you get them.

Also there is nothing wrong with using Escape Jutsu... its universal anyhow.

[waiya]

just FYI the update for SHINO-INO-CHO will be going up on abouts friday/saturday (depending on my time) I will put the update on the main page.


also looking though the decks added, I gotta say " those are some quite imaginitive decks." the one that impressed me the most had to be the sasuke deck. I am looking forward to updates on it soon.

[Teepa]

just FYI the update for SHINO-INO-CHO will be going up on abouts friday/saturday (depending on my time) I will put the update on the main page.


also looking though the decks added, I gotta say " those are some quite imaginitive decks." the one that impressed me the most had to be the sasuke deck. I am looking forward to updates on it soon.
^.^ why thank you. I will probually be making an update late sunday or early monday, as the local hobby league is sunday in my area. I must say the deck certianally seems to be working alot better then I thought, however, on sunday it will have it's first true battle test since all my playtesting has been against myself (meaning it could be considered a little biased). Hopefully this deck will help me raise in ranking, 300+ is no fun. At the very I hope to win more then one match this time arround. (Wow, there are some low rankings in my area, one guy is in the 50s -.-) Well, anyway, i'll have my fingers crossed.

[lod_leader2003]

man, that's not goof for you!

people with low rankings in your area=harder to win.

eeh. seems unfair that if a lot of good players are in your area, you could possibly keep dropping in the rankings.

i nelieve in you Teepa! you can win this!! go, and show them what you're MADE OF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lod_leader2003]

lotta spelling errors. my bad.

but i believe you can win, Teepa, if you really want to!

Give it your Best Shot. That's all that matters:) ;) :cool: :D

[Tirus]

lotta spelling errors. my bad.

but i believe you can win, Teepa, if you really want to!

Give it your Best Shot. That's all that matters:) ;) :cool: :D

Ya know, there is an edit command right under each of your post to correct said spelling errors.

Also no one has critique my new deck, it's lonely someone go check it out. (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2865)

[lod_leader2003]

okay...i said it was built from the cards i have right now...

orochimaru wont work well in my deck..probably....

he's not out yet.....so he's not in my deck yet...if he will be in my sharingan deck.....

so.....yeah....

[Tirus]

Yea Orochimaru is cool, but he will not work in any deck, though probably could fit into any deck.

Of Course water decks are diffinately going to want him.

[brainof7]

These are decks taht are supposedly extrememly good according to TCGPlayer.com...

Some are ok, there are a fwe good ones, but other than i think they are in a completely different meta.

Ninja:
1 HAKU (#043)
3 IRUKA UMINO (#022)
3 KAKASHI HATAKE (#011)
3 MIGHT GUY (#039)
3 NARUTO UZUMAKI (#019)
3 NEJI HYUGA (#033)
3 SASUKE UCHIHA (#020)
2 SHIKAMARU NARA (#005)
2 THE THIRD HOKAGE (#013)

Jutsu:
3 8 TRIGRAM DIVINATION SEAL SPELL FORMULA (#006)
2 FIRE STYLE: FIRE BALL JUTSU (#010)
3 KUNAI (#001)
3 SHARIGAN EYE (#007)

Mission:
2 AFTER THE BATTLE (#021)
1 DISATER OF THE NINE-TAILED FOX SPIRIT (#005)
3 MISSION OF CAPTURING THE MISSING PET "TORA" (#006)

2 0 drops, the article that goes with it says that it doesn't matter. 4/0 sasuke is used. This is supposed to be a resilient version that can outlast the "overwhelming power of Fire/Lightning/Earth (FLEE) thats so popular"

"Zabuza Beatdown"
2 Haku (#016)
1 Haku (#017)
3 Konohamaru (#007)
3 Naruto Uzumaki (#025)
3 The Demon Brothers - Gouzu (#014)
3 The Demon Brothers - Meizu (#015)
3 Zabuza Momochi (#024)
Jutsu

2 Cross-Shaped Shuriken (#002)
2 Crystal Ice Mirror (#036)
3 Kunai (#001)
2 Silent Killing Jutsu (#014)
3 Water Prison Jutsu (#032)
2 Water Style: Giant Vortex Jutsu (#034)
2 Water Style: Water Dragon Jutsu (#033)

Mission

3 Bingo Book (#011)
3 Ichiraku Noodle Shop (#001)

"Taijutsu Beats
Ninja

1 Hinata Hyuga (#030)
3 Might Guy (#039)
1 Naruto Uzumaki (#019)
2 Naruto Uzumaki (#025)
1 Neji Hyuga (#033)
2 Neji Hyuga (#042)
2 Rock Lee (#031)
1 Rock Lee (#041)
Jutsu

3 Cross-Shaped Shuriken (#002)
3 Kunai (#001)
3 Leaf Hurricane (#026)
3 Leaf Whirlwind (#027)
3 Multi Shadow Clone Jutsu (#005)
3 Substitution Jutsu (#017)
3 Transform Jutsu (#016)

Mission

1 After the Battle (#021)
3 An Outcast's Dream (#002)
1 Ichiraku Noodle Shop (#001)
1 Revival (#042)

"Clone Status"
Ninja

2 Ebisu (#010)
2 Iruka Umino (#022)
1 Kakashi Hatake (#011)
2 Konohamaru (#034)
1 Kurenai Yuhi (#038)
2 Might Guy (#039)
3 Naruto Uzumaki (#019)
2 Sakura Haruno (#027)
3 Sasuke Uchiha (#002)
2 Shino Aburame (#029)
Jutsu

3 Clone Jutsu (#015)
2 Escape Jutsu (#020)
3 Harem Jutsu (#004)
2 Kunai (#001)
3 Multi Shadow Clone Jutsu (#005)
2 Sexy Jutsu (#003)
2 Shadow Clone Jutsu (#025)

Mission

2 An Outcast's Dream (#002)
1 Disaster of the Nine-Tailed Fox Spirit (#005)

"Fire Hydrant"
1 Akamaru (#036)
2 Haku (#043)
2 Kakashi Hatake (#023)
2 Kiba Inuzuka (#028)
2 Konohamaru (#007)
1 Sasuke Uchiha (#002)
2 Sasuke Uchiha (#026)
2 The Demon Brothers - Gouzu (#014)
2 The Demon Brothers - Meizu (#015)
2 The Third Hokage (#013)
2 Zabuza Momochi (#024)
Jutsu

2 Cross-Shaped Shuriken (#002)
2 Fire Style: Fire Ball Jutsu (#010)
3 Kunai (#001)
3 Sharingan Eye (#007)
2 Water Prison Jutsu (#032)
2 Water Style: Giant Vortex Jutsu (#034)
2 Water Style: Water Dragon Jutsu (#033)

Mission

2 Bingo Book (#011)
2 Mission of Capturing the Missing Pet “Tora” (#006)

"Water Wind"
Ninja

3 Ebisu (#010)
3 Haku (#043)
2 Kaede Ureshino (#035)
2 Kurenai Yuhi (#038)
2 Mizuki (#009)
3 Sakura Haruno (#021)
3 Shino Aburame (#029)
2 The Demon Brothers - Gouzu (#014)
2 The Demon Brothers - Meizu (#015)
1 Zabuza Momochi (#018)
1 Zabuza Momochi (#024)
1 Zabuza Momochi (#040)
Jutsu

2 Crystal Ice Mirror (#036)
3 Evil Illusion: Death Mirage Jutsu (#019)
3 Transform Jutsu (#016)
2 Water Style: Giant Vortex Jutsu (#034)
2 Water Style: Water Dragon Jutsu (#033)

Mission

2 Bingo Book (#011)
1 Unwanted Child (#034)

"Tai Control"
3 Hinata Hyuga (#030)
2 Iruka Umino (#008)
1 Iruka Umino (#022)
3 Might Guy (#039)
1 Naruto Uzumaki (#001)
1 Neji Hyuga (#033)
2 Neji Hyuga (#042)
3 Rock Lee (#041)
3 Shikamaru Nara (#005)
2 Tenten (#032)
Jutsu

3 Cross-Shaped Shuriken (#002)
3 Kunai (#001)
3 Leaf Hurricane (#026)
3 Leaf Whirlwind (#027)
3 Multi Shadow Clone Jutsu (#005)

Mission

1 After the Battle (#021)
2 Ichiraku Noodle Shop (#001)
Shinobi

1 Naruto Uzumaki (#001)

"CC"
1 Kakashi Hatake (#011)
2 Kakashi Hatake (#023)
2 Konohamaru (#007)
2 Kurenai Yuhi (#038)
1 Naruto Uzumaki (#019)
1 Naruto Uzumaki (#025)
2 Neji Hyuga (#042)
2 Sakura Haruno (#027)
1 Sasuke Uchiha (#020)
2 Sasuke Uchiha (#026)
2 Shikamaru Nara (#005)
2 The Third Hokage (#013)
Jutsu

2 8 Trigram Divination Seal Spell Fomula (#006)
3 Cross-Shaped Shuriken (#002)
2 Evil Illusion: Death Mirage Jutsu (#019)
3 Kunai (#001)
3 Sexy Jutsu (#003)
2 Shadow Clone Jutsu (#025)
3 Sharingan Eye (#007)
2 Tree-Climbing Training (#040)

"FLEE"
Ninja

2 Choji Akimichi (#006)
1 Iruka Umino (#008)
1 Iruka Umino (#022)
1 Kakashi Hatake (#011)
2 Konohamaru (#007)
2 Might Guy (#039)
1 Naruto Uzumaki (#025)
2 Neji Hyuga (#033)
2 Rock Lee (#031)
1 Sasuke Uchiha (#002)
2 Sasuke Uchiha (#026)
2 Shikamaru Nara (#005)
2 Tenten (#032)
2 The Third Hokage (#013)
Jutsu

3 Cross-Shaped Shuriken (#002)
3 Escape Jutsu (#020)
3 Kunai (#001)
2 Multi Shadow Clone Jutsu (#005)
2 Sexy Jutsu (#003)

Mission

2 Ichiraku Noodle Shop (#001)
Shinobi

2 Naruto Uzumaki (#001)

"Byakugan Control"
Ninja

2 Choji Akimichi (#006)
2 Haku (#043)
2 Konohamaru (#007)
3 Neji Hyuga (#042)
2 Sasuke Uchiha (#026)
2 Shikamaru Nara (#005)
2 The Demon Brothers - Gouzu (#014)
2 The Demon Brothers - Meizu (#015)
3 Zabuza Momochi (#024)
Jutsu

2 A Thousand Needles of Death (#035)
3 Byakugan (#042)
2 Escape Jutsu (#020)
2 Guillotine Sword (#031)
2 Shared-instinct Assassination Jutsu (#011)
2 Silent Killing Jutsu (#014)
2 Water Clone Jutsu (#012)
2 Water Style: Water Dragon Jutsu (#033)

Mission

3 Ninja Academy (#020)

"Genious of Efforts"
Ninja

2 Choji Akimichi (#006)
2 Iruka Umino (#008)
2 Konohamaru (#034)
2 Might Guy (#039)
2 Naruto Uzumaki (#025)
3 Neji Hyuga (#042)
3 Rock Lee (#041)
2 Shikamaru Nara (#005)
2 Tenten (#032)
Jutsu

3 Escape Jutsu (#020)
2 Kunai (#001)
2 Leaf Hurricane (#026)
2 Multi Shadow Clone Jutsu (#005)
3 Sexy Jutsu (#003)

Mission

2 After the Battle (#021)
2 Leaf Headband (#003)
2 Leaf Ninja Forces (#022)
2 Manji Battle Formation (#041)

"Kakashi Control"
Ninja

2 Akamaru (#036)
1 Ebisu (#010)
2 Kaede Ureshino (#035)
3 Kakashi Hatake (#023)
2 Kiba Inuzuka (#028)
1 Konohamaru (#007)
2 Kurenai Yuhi (#038)
1 Mizuki (#009)
2 Sakura Haruno (#027)
3 Sasuke Uchiha (#026)
3 The Third Hokage (#013)
Jutsu

3 8 Trigram Divination Seal Spell Fomula (#006)
2 Fire Style: Fire Ball Jutsu (#010)
1 Lightning Blade (#030)
3 Sharingan Eye (#007)
2 Sprinting in the Mist Jutsu (#038)
1 Substitution Jutsu (#017)
1 Tree-Climbing Training (#040)

Mission

1 An Accident (#008)
2 Mission of Capturing the Missing Pet “Tora” (#006)
3 One Morning (#018)

"Jonin Beatdown"
Ninja

3 Hinata Hyuga (#030)
3 Kakashi Hatake (#023)
2 Konohamaru (#007)
3 Might Guy (#039)
3 Naruto Uzumaki (#019)
1 The Demon Brothers - Gouzu (#014)
1 The Demon Brothers - Meizu (#015)
2 The Third Hokage (#013)
1 Zabuza Momochi (#018)
2 Zabuza Momochi (#024)
Jutsu

3 Cross-Shaped Shuriken (#002)
3 Fire Style: Fire Ball Jutsu (#010)
3 Kunai (#001)
1 Leaf Hurricane (#026)
3 Silent Killing Jutsu (#014)

Mission

3 Exhaustion of Stamina (#010)
3 Make-Out Paradise (#007)

[RjtheSennin]

Those people at that site are just regualr players like us, they don't know anything we don't.

Most of those decks are HORRIBLE, some are ok.

[brainof7]

ya, but this is what are bieng called the decks to beat...

You should see what they say about some of the cards, totally underplaying them, or calling them useless. I think we are just further ahead as far as thinking process is and decks are. They are just like us, players, but they are behind a bit i think from reading some of the stuff on there.

[Jyoushiro]

Ninja:
1 HAKU (#043)
3 IRUKA UMINO (#022)
3 KAKASHI HATAKE (#011)
3 MIGHT GUY (#039)
3 NARUTO UZUMAKI (#019)
3 NEJI HYUGA (#033)
3 SASUKE UCHIHA (#020)
2 SHIKAMARU NARA (#005)
2 THE THIRD HOKAGE (#013)

Jutsu:
3 8 TRIGRAM DIVINATION SEAL SPELL FORMULA (#006)
2 FIRE STYLE: FIRE BALL JUTSU (#010)
3 KUNAI (#001)
3 SHARIGAN EYE (#007)

Mission:
2 AFTER THE BATTLE (#021)
1 DISATER OF THE NINE-TAILED FOX SPIRIT (#005)
3 MISSION OF CAPTURING THE MISSING PET "TORA" (#006)

2 0 drops, the article that goes with it says that it doesn't matter. 4/0 sasuke is used. This is supposed to be a resilient version that can outlast the "overwhelming power of Fire/Lightning/Earth (FLEE) thats so popular"
He is right about Sasuke, there's no 0-drop that can possibly get through him without help. He even stops every 1 drop that doesn't have Shikamaru behind him. The sheer number of ninja here would make this a tough deck to beat.

"Zabuza Beatdown"
This one only has 5 different ninja but the sheer number of cheap pumps could make it playable. I assume that [Genius of Efforts] is being used here and the real purpose of the deck is to make him and Naruto really big. I think this would do pretty well against any deck that doesn't involve Zabuza's Water Dragon cheatery and Giant Vortex Jutsu.

"Clone Status"
Gah! What is with all these numbers!? Could someone tell me which Kakashi, Naruto and Konohamarus those are?

"Fire Hydrant"
Standard fare. We've all seen this before.

"Water Wind"
All 3 Zabuza and only 2 Bingo Book!? Is Tranform and Death Mirage suppose to be some kind of combo? -3/-3 for [W][2] and 2 cards? He'd probably be better off just running Cross-Shaped. This one is terrible IMO.

"Tai Control"
I don't really consider mass pumps as control but I guess it works. I would definately be running Leaf Ninja Forces here.


"CC"
Running 1 of each Naruto? This deck is very jutsu heavy and doesn't have missions. Looking at this I really can't get any sense of a theme here.

"FLEE"
Is this suppose to be like a rush deck or something? It has no late game at all besides Hokage and the single Kakashi. Oh, Guy's in there too, I see him now. I don't see rush being that great in this game. Since both players can only play 1 ninja a turn, there's no real way to outnumber your opponent. I'm thinking that any deck that can hit all it's drops and with a better late game will kill this one.

"Byakugan Control"
Now this one I like. Neji with Shikamaru and Guillotine Sword can be dangerous. I would say drop Water Clone, Death Needles and Silent Killing in favor of some Bingo Books, more Water Dragon and maybe some Hidden Mist Jutsu. I'm really really liking this deck.

"Genious of Efforts"
8 Missions, ouch. This one needs a better late game. Nothing 4-drop Kakashi and Kurenai couldn't fix. I would definately go with 3 After the Battle, you really don't want Lee or Guy's abilities turned off. Maybe drop the Leaf Headbands for it.

These are just the impressions I get from seeing the deck lists, obviously there's no true way to know how well they work except through actual playtesting.

[Paizuri]

Those people at that site are just regualr players like us, they don't know anything we don't.

Most of those decks are HORRIBLE, some are ok.
I find it funny you call these decks horrible and yet I don't think I have seen you even post a deck on the forums yet. I am tired of people saying there are no decks to beat or no one knows anything yet because there isn't a big tournement yet. Where do you think the deck that win the big tournements come from? People who test and test and then test some more. I work hard on helping on these forums and on the articles for tcgplayer. Do you think I care about the $25 gift certificate? No I am just trying to support the game. Before you call the decks horrible why don't you post some yourself.

[RjtheSennin]

I find it funny you call these decks horrible and yet I don't think I have seen you even post a deck on the forums yet. I am tired of people saying there are no decks to beat or no one knows anything yet because there isn't a big tournement yet. Where do you think the deck that win the big tournements come from? People who test and test and then test some more. I work hard on helping on these forums and on the articles for tcgplayer. Do you think I care about the $25 gift certificate? No I am just trying to support the game. Before you call the decks horrible why don't you post some yourself.

Whoa, haha. Maybe you're new around here. If you have seen ANY of my decks and their threads you will see EXTENSIVE reports/statics and well displayed decks( a few of them anyway). Some of them were just random ideas and didn't get much attention. I live to deckbuild .:cool:

Maybe you should do some reasearch before you accuse people of not doing something... I mean come on, I'm probably the last person (besides keniko) that anyone would ever say has never posted a deck on this site.

But heh, I'm not one to argue. The point is, you are very wrong and know nothing about me. And I accept your apology.;)

EDIT: So there is one on the first page. I was thinking maybe since there wasnt one of the first page you might not have know, but there is one. And also notice I said some of the decks from tcgplayer.com are bad, SOME of them.

[Paizuri]

Whoa, haha. Maybe you're new around here. If you have seen ANY of my decks and their threads you will see EXTENSIVE reports/statics and well displayed decks( a few of them anyway). Some of them were just random ideas and didn't get much attention. I live to deckbuild .:cool:

Maybe you should do some reasearch before you accuse people of not doing something... I mean come on, I'm probably the last person (besides keniko) that anyone would ever say has never posted a deck on this site.

But heh, I'm not one to argue. The point is, you are very wrong and know nothing about me. And I accept your apology.;)

EDIT: So there is one on the first page. I was thinking maybe since there wasnt one of the first page you might not have know, but there is one. And also notice I said some of the decks from tcgplayer.com are bad, SOME of them.Actually you said, "MOST OF THEM ARE HORRIBLE, some are ok".

Also I never said I knew you. Also I never said you didn't post a deck, I said I didn't think I even seen you post a deck. Anyway we can argue over symantics forever. My issue is with your comment, "MOST OF THEM ARE HORRIBLE, some are ok".

[RjtheSennin]

ok, whats the issue?

[Cao Cao]

Beat this deck baby. I think it wins because I made mine all foil. So I blind the opponent in that I confuse them :)

But what this deck does is search through deck, draw - run down chakra and crit there big ninjas to own them 0_0. I know escape jutsu negates, but only negates one guy :) And Sharingan Eye, = they need sharigan. Lot of people trying to use without requirements 0_0. Well I won with this deck with 18 people attending.

Ninja
2 Haku (#043)
3 Iruka Umino (#022)
1 Kakashi Hatake (#011)
2 Konohamaru (#007)
3 Kurenai Yuhi (#038)
3 Might Guy (#039)
3 Naruto Uzumaki (#019)
3 Sakura Haruno (#027)
2 Sasuke Uchiha (#020)
1 Zabuza Momochi (#018)

Jutsu
3 Clone Jutsu (#015)
3 Harem Jutsu (#004)
2 Multi Shadow Clone Jutsu (#005)
1 Sexy Jutsu (#003)

Mission
2 Disaster of the Nine-Tailed Fox Spirit (#005)
3 Inner Sakura (#015)
3 One Morning (#018)

[JDragon]

Why isn't there a single aggro strategy at all on the first post of this thread? Aggro will crush unprepared control decks, and has a decent chance against decks designed to beat it also.

[RjtheSennin]

You must be using a different dictionary than the rest of us. Just becuase a deck ahs control cards doesn't mean it isn't aggro. Aggro is really more of a playstyle than a decktype.

If you meant Beatdown, then yes most decks right now arent/ You gotta remember most new naruto players are former ygo/vs system players (such as myself) where control is much greater than beatdown.

Beatdown is cool, but there's only so much that can get down with big numbers. Espically since ANY of my ninjas can block ANY of your teams (unless a card prevents it).

In any case more people feel alot more comfortable being in control instead of mindlessly rapmpaging with a few beefed up ninjas( especially with a new game). There are great jutsus that people want to utilize and gain victory that way. Besides how can you really be aggressive when you are only allowed to send out 3 teams to battle?

People have different playstyles.

Beatdown will be tough to beat but it won't crush anything.

[Dhuman]

You must be using a different dictionary than the rest of us. Just becuase a deck ahs control cards doesn't mean it isn't aggro. Aggro is really more of a playstyle than a decktype.

If you meant Beatdown, then yes most decks right now arent/ You gotta remember most new naruto players are former ygo/vs system players (such as myself) where control is much greater than beatdown.

Beatdown is cool, but there's only so much that can get down with big numbers. Espically since ANY of my ninjas can block ANY of your teams (unless a card prevents it).

In any case more people feel alot more comfortable being in control instead of mindlessly rapmpaging with a few beefed up ninjas( especially with a new game). There are great jutsus that people want to utilize and gain victory that way. Besides how can you really be aggressive when you are only allowed to send out 3 teams to battle?

People have different playstyles.

Beatdown will be tough to beat but it won't crush anything.

Though, any YGO vets will know that in the begining, Beat down ruled every thing. So, if you look at it logicaly, a more aggresive flare with hard hitters can win games. Fast. True, any ninja can block a ninja, but the bigger your guys, the more ninja get injured/killed, or the more rewards you get for direct attacking. Beatdown style CAN be huge, and should, in theory only of course, take down a lot of diffrent decks that people play in the tourney scene. In fact, I'm working on one at the moment, but its in the deep play testing/revise stages. And also note, there are Aggro+Control decks that do VERY well, since they have a little of both worlds. And one last thing, Beat Down decks are often referded to as Aggro Decks =/

EDIT: Thats not to say, of course, that controls bad. Its great! Very powerful. But at the moment, theres not all too much control can do. In fact, its more of a "Who can get the most Ninja's out and grab good Jutsus" at the moment. But in time, I'm sure diffrent deck styles will be much more defined. And then, I have a feeling Control will get VERY popular, even more so than now

Another EDIT: And on the note of "Aggro won't crush anything," thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Which says a lot. Any deck can crush an unpropared deck. Which is what he said it would do. So hes write, your wrong. One last thing too, Aggro WILL crush plenty of decks (well, certain ones) as will certain control decks crush many others. It all depends on how and what you play.

[RjtheSennin]

Though, any YGO vets will know that in the begining, Beat down ruled every thing. So, if you look at it logicaly, a more aggresive flare with hard hitters can win games. Fast. True, any ninja can block a ninja, but the bigger your guys, the more ninja get injured/killed, or the more rewards you get for direct attacking. Beatdown style CAN be huge, and should, in theory only of course, take down a lot of diffrent decks that people play in the tourney scene. In fact, I'm working on one at the moment, but its in the deep play testing/revise stages. And also note, there are Aggro+Control decks that do VERY well, since they have a little of both worlds. And one last thing, Beat Down decks are often referded to as Aggro Decks =/

EDIT: Thats not to say, of course, that controls bad. Its great! Very powerful. But at the moment, theres not all too much control can do. In fact, its more of a "Who can get the most Ninja's out and grab good Jutsus" at the moment. But in time, I'm sure diffrent deck styles will be much more defined. And then, I have a feeling Control will get VERY popular, even more so than now

Another EDIT: And on the note of "Aggro won't crush anything," thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Which says a lot. Any deck can crush an unpropared deck. Which is what he said it would do. So hes write, your wrong. One last thing too, Aggro WILL crush plenty of decks (well, certain ones) as will certain control decks crush many others. It all depends on how and what you play.

No "crush" is way different from beat/win. Saying that one deck will crush another means that no others deck will be able to even match it. which was the orignal intent ( i assume) of Jdragon post.

I know beatdown ruled in the beggining of YGO, becuase I was there. But people soone realized that control can be better than beatdown. So why not skip that "beatdown owns" phase and go straight to control? I know lots of former YGo now naruto players who think this way.

But again, I never said beatdown won't be huge, I was just mainly commenting on Jdragons question about why there were none posted on that first page.

[Dhuman]

No "crush" is way different from beat/win. Saying that one deck will crush another means that no others deck will be able to even match it. which was the orignal intent ( i assume) of Jdragon post.

I know beatdown ruled in the beggining of YGO, becuase I was there. But people soone realized that control can be better than beatdown. So why not skip that "beatdown owns" phase and go straight to control? I know lots of former YGo now naruto players who think this way.

But again, I never said beatdown won't be huge, I was just mainly commenting on Jdragons question about why there were none posted on that first page.

Well, its true, the first sets of YGO had little to no control. You pretty much HAD to play aggro. Naruto offers more options, and control is here, like you said. But to throw Beatdowns and aggros aside wouldn't be too smart, since, it can be very powerful, and can win games, even more so if the next sets bring us ways to get bigger guys out faster. Who knows what the future will bring. I think certain beatdown stlyes, when made, will get posted on that page, since they can do a lot. But, we'll have to wait and see. Though, in truth, I think this first set really is begging us to play Stomp-control stlyes, where both control and aggro is used. IMO, though, of course. I'm not saying one of us is wrong and the other right. I think you bring up good points, and that I do too

[RjtheSennin]

Well, its true, the first sets of YGO had little to no control. You pretty much HAD to play aggro. Naruto offers more options, and control is here, like you said. But to throw Beatdowns and aggros aside wouldn't be too smart, since, it can be very powerful, and can win games, even more so if the next sets bring us ways to get bigger guys out faster. Who knows what the future will bring. I think certain beatdown stlyes, when made, will get posted on that page, since they can do a lot. But, we'll have to wait and see. Though, in truth, I think this first set really is begging us to play Stomp-control stlyes, where both control and aggro is used. IMO, though, of course. I'm not saying one of us is wrong and the other right. I think you bring up good points, and that I do too

I'm not throwing beatdown aside, I'm really anxious to see the results from the first two major torunaments.

And yea, you do make some good points;)

[JDragon]

Why isn't there a single aggro strategy at all on the first post of this thread? Aggro will crush unprepared control decks, and has a decent chance against decks designed to beat it also.

I italicized the part of the post that you all seem to be missing. Right now, in my metagame at least, it's very heavy control and as a result all the control decks are metagamed against each other. This is why my aggro deck has been able to do so well. However, when they start preparing for the aggro matchup, then it's a more fair fight.

Aggro is present in the metagame though, which is why I believe it should be included in the decks to beat thread.

Oh, and when I have 2 3 power teams and 1 5 power team on turn 2 backed up by efficient jutsus, I think that qualifies as aggro. ;)

[Green Beast]

I agree with JDragon. Aggro decks are beasts when built right.

It would be silly to dismiss them completly.

[Teepa]

"Blaze of Glory" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2736&page=3) is a Aggro deck if I'm not mistaken, and it is mentioned in the initnal post if you look.

[Keniko]

Sorry all I havent been able to go on much so this thread is an absolute mess. I agree that there should be more aggro decks in here so therefore I would suggest that someone post a polished version of their deck on here and it will be inserted immediately.

Only reason I have not posted more aggro decks on there is because there hasnt been that many nominated/ posted.

Btw "Blaze of Glory" is a aggro deck.

The only decks that I post in the thread are the ones that are nominated, therefore get out there and post those aggro decks.

Thanks for your patience and please just post the link as opposed to the whole deck.

P.S. Some of the decks on there are *cough (Blaze of Glory... sorry I havent been paying much attention to that deck) *cough arent updated. I usually leave it to the thread starter to make the updates because it would take alot of effort AND time (especially time) if I were to go though and post every little thing.

[Keniko]

Hi Everyone,

First of all, I thank all of you for your input in these forums.

Secondly, Sorry I havent been around to update any of my post but I'm back now... for now anyways...

Last but not least, My "Decks to Beat" is not intended to disrespect anyone on these boards or what not. I agree that some more aggro decks should be on there and I am looking to you all to help suggest some nominations for this thread.

Thanks ahead of time.

Sincerely,
"K"

P.S. Do you have any nominations for the "Decks to Beat"? If so please provide the link (link only please) for it and we or whoever will come by and take a look at the deck.

[Keniko]

We have another addition to the decks to beat thread... Feel free to nominate more...

and without further ado...

"Big Green Monster" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3417) aka BGM by Green Beast

P.S. This deck as well as the others can be found on the first page of this thread...

[Ignatious]

I agree with JDragon. Aggro decks are beasts when built right.

It would be silly to dismiss them completly.
no one was dismissing them, i think everyone has agreed that aggro will be a highly competative matchup no matter wut you play. o and for the record, control decks are beasts when built right.

[Kirigakure no Kijin]

P.S. Do you have any nominations for the "Decks to Beat"? If so please provide the link (link only please) for it and we or whoever will come by and take a look at the deck.
Then can i nominate my deck (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?p=46878#post46878)

-Dattebayo!

[Keniko]

Then can i nominate my deck (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?p=46878#post46878)

-Dattebayo!

I looked over your deck and its actually quite solid... sorry about that comment earlier I didnt see the note on the first page about having the update on the second page...

I still dont know what kind of competition youve faced but you cant really argue with 42 W & 0 L... even a starter deck could get lucky and beat it at least once...

I suggest you throw it up against the decks in this thread... Maybe 10 games per match... I'd love to see a report on how you did against all of these decks because I highly doubt that you can still manage to go undefeated...

Your deck as well as the others can be found on the first page of this thread...

As for everyone else... I have noticed the lack of aggro decks out there and I encourage you to post your deck on these forums.

P.S. Everyone might be secretive about their decks right now with Anime Expo and Origins on the horizon... myself included.

[Keniko]

"Harem Control" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3483) Aka Clone Deck by Cao Cao

"Nine-Tailed Disaster" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2765) Deck by sexy_no_jitsu

All the decks can be found on the first page of this thread...

[All Seeing Eyes]

With Anime Expo coming up, prepare your decks and play test a lot against these "Decks to Beat." Good luck to everyone going.

[Keniko]

1 of my personal favorites for a "Deck to Beat"

"Breakthru" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3196) by brainof7

Its not your typical deck for one... As this would probably be one of the most rogue decks out there at the moment... Who uses more missions than jutsu's anyways? haha this deck does... it does it quite well i might add... Very intriguing deck concept... Has a fairly strong early game and can/will catch many of guard...

All the decks (links) can be found of the first page of this thread...

Also as All Seeing Eyes stated... Good look to everyone headed to Anime Expo and Origins. It would be wise of you to test against all of these decks as I believe that they will be in the field...

P.S. Do you think I should talk about the deck(s) a little bit as opposed to just posting the link? Kinda like how I had that little bit of wisdom in this post... Let me know... Man I gotta get down to playtesting like mad within these next few weeks...

[All Seeing Eyes]

Maybe a little description next to each link. i.e. "Blazy of Glory" - aggro deck, "Fire Hydrant" - control deck, etc.

Best of luck to those going to Anime Expo and Origins.I wont be going myself and I'd like to hear how things go.

[Keniko]

Control
"Fire Hydrant" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1591)
"Eye for an Eye" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1452)
"Sasuke's Harem!" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2693)
"Electric Boogaloo" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2263)
"Watery Eyes" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2634&page=2)
"Harem Control" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3483)
"Simoon" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2262)

Aggro
"Breakthru" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3196)
"Big Green Monster" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3417)
"Hit the Ground Running" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1053)
"Blaze of Glory" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2736&page=3)

Combo
"Nine-Tailed Disaster" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2765)

Mill
"SUPER SECRET shino-ino-cho!" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1900)

That sure is alot of control decks...

Also I did this quite fast so if the deck isnt under the right category let me know...

How about something like this?

[brainof7]

be careful which ones you call control, and whats really aggro-control. Some fire hydrant builds can do that, and eyes really is aggro sort of. It basically stops all opposing jutsus and uses stats to win.

[Teepa]

Sasuke's Harem should be mill, cause that seems like the only way it's going to win in my area. J/K lol.

Actually, Sasuke's Harem probually falls under Control, Aggro, AND Combo. (the Combo of OYE Sasuke and Clone Jutsus.) Basically, early game Sasuke's Harem is a combo deck, using Sasuke's effect to it's fullest, but late game it is more of a control or aggro deck.

[Kirigakure no Kijin]

Control
"Fire Hydrant" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1591)
"Eye for an Eye" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1452)
"Sasuke's Harem!" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2693)
"Electric Boogaloo" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2263)
"Watery Eyes" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2634&page=2)
"Harem Control" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3483)
"Simoon" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2262)

Aggro
"Breakthru" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3196)
"Big Green Monster" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3417)
"Hit the Ground Running" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1053)
"Blaze of Glory" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2736&page=3)

Combo
"Nine-Tailed Disaster" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=2765)

Mill
"SUPER SECRET shino-ino-cho!" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=1900)

That sure is alot of control decks...

Also I did this quite fast so if the deck isnt under the right category let me know...

How about something like this?
It looks like a good format to identify the types of the decks and also try putting the creator of the deck next to the deck like this: Simoon-Keniko,Eye for an Eye-All Seeing Eyes

-Dattebayo!

[Kash_Matik]

What would you say is the overall best deck that's listed so far? I'm just wondering your opinions.

[Gamabunta]

It looks like a good format to identify the types of the decks and also try putting the creator of the deck next to the deck like this: Simoon-Keniko,Eye for an Eye-All Seeing Eyes

-Dattebayo!





No need to put up a "creator" by the deck.
If these are truly "decks to beat", then what you lot are looking for are Deck Archetypes. Using a specific deck to represent the Archetype is already giving one pioneer enough credit. No need to take it too far, in my opinion.
Please lets not turn this into any sort of a "I created that deck type, I demand credit" thing.
Ive seen that develop on other message boards of all different types (from deck building games like this to all sorts of other art forms).
Different people are pioneering different Deck Archetypes at this point.
They are Pioneers not really "creators".

[Keniko]

What would you say is the overall best deck that's listed so far? I'm just wondering your opinions.

I would probably say a well built "Fire Hydrant" Something very similar to ASE version...

No need to put up a "creator" by the deck.
If these are truly "decks to beat", then what you lot are looking for are Deck Archetypes. Using a specific deck to represent the Archetype is already giving one pioneer enough credit. No need to take it too far, in my opinion.
Please lets not turn this into any sort of a "I created that deck type, I demand credit" thing.
Ive seen that develop on other message boards of all different types (from deck building games like this to all sorts of other art forms).
Different people are pioneering different Deck Archetypes at this point.
They are Pioneers not really "creators".

Yeah I was thinking the same thing... Also the creators name is on the thread so theres credit there I suppose.

[Palmdalex]

ok i new just stared playing like 3 days ago so i might be wrong. Ok this decks i could tell are good but wat if someone [me] ran rush? Woulnt it kill that mill deck and just about destroy the conrtol decks? B/c my deck is rush and has like 3-4 high level guys just in case just wondering...

[Teepa]

ok i new just stared playing like 3 days ago so i might be wrong. Ok this decks i could tell are good but wat if someone [me] ran rush? Woulnt it kill that mill deck and just about destroy the conrtol decks? B/c my deck is rush and has like 3-4 high level guys just in case just wondering...
Rush can be decent, but keep in mind that you can only attack with 3 teams at once.

[Palmdalex]

but still if your oppent only has 1 ninja and u have 3 ...

[Teepa]

but still if your oppent only has 1 ninja and u have 3 ...
Good luck with that, you can't even play Ninja acamedy until turn 2.

[Keniko]

Or you can go for the "Breakthru" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3196&page=3) rush version which is my 2nd favorite deck and highly competitive...

That is a solid rush deck... might need a little bit more tweaking but it is very good as it is.

[spyderwebbz]

Good luck with that, you can't even play Ninja acamedy until turn 2.Shooting Star is turn 1. Less effective but both together is definitely worth using. :cool:

[Teepa]

Shooting Star is turn 1. Less effective but both together is definitely worth using. :cool:
Still, Akamaru is the only way you can get more ninja out then your opponent in the same number of turns if you go 2nd before turn 2. Shooting star can get out a 2nd copy of a ninja, but it still does not allow you to "rush"

[spyderwebbz]

Still, Akamaru is the only way you can get more ninja out then your opponent in the same number of turns if you go 2nd before turn 2. Shooting star can get out a 2nd copy of a ninja, but it still does not allow you to "rush"It would keep the pressure on til you got the Ninja Academy. A rush deck will probably use 3 copies of cards to try and ensure they get them asap. Shooting Star is to keep you from having too many copies of "in play" characters in your hand which would slow down the rush. I do agree with you concerning Kiba/Akamaru. So far I haven't been able to sell myself on their combined usefulness. :cool:

[Palmdalex]

aww man my rush deck isnt up there..hmm... someone nomainate my deck plez ,but dont if you think it needs to be better

[Teepa]

aww man my rush deck isnt up there..hmm... someone nomainate my deck plez ,but dont if you think it needs to be better
A few of the decks posted in this topic probually still need a bit of fine tuning, including my own Sasuke's Harem, but besides that, I believe you can nomainate your own deck.

[All Seeing Eyes]

Just as a Heads Up, I've updated my Zabuza deck with notes on the changes. I gotta say, now that I have all the cards for it, it's my favorite deck to play.

Also, I nominate Palmdalex's deck since there's going to be more rush more often than not. MAd Rush http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3917

[Palmdalex]

thanks for nominating my deck though i need to make changes that i dont think other people did i will post the changes omg. the deck is so bad with those cards

[Keniko]

"MAd Rush" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3917&page=2) by Palmdalex.

All the decks can be found on the first page of this thread.

[Palmdalex]

thats for adding my deck well my deck is 6-0 right now.[<<filler][This topic should be on the first page]

[JDragon]

Um, Curve Aggro (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3214)?

:)

[Palmdalex]

^^lol hi do u want to play?

[Palmdalex]

changed my deck again check it out

[Keniko]

"Curve Aggro" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=3214) by JDragon

What can I really say about this deck. Its really good at what it does and thats beatdown. 25 ninjas is there to ensure that you have the highest possibility of dropping a ninja everyturn which I personally think is more important than having some jutsu... except for vortex that card is sick.

Anyhow... you can view this deck as well as the others on page 1 of this thread...

If anyone else has any nominations please feel free to leave me a comment or pm.

[Kirigakure no Kijin]

this should be in the first page :p

-Dattebayo!

[waiya]

hey keniko

I'll be revealling my new deck at anime expo tomorrow .

I'll post it by tyuesday and how it did. good luck to all that are going.

TSUNAMI!

[Kirigakure no Kijin]

<<<<<<<<<<<<Filler>>>>>>>>>>>>(Should be in first page =p )

-Dattebayo!

[Keniko]

OK so at Anime Expo nothing was really much of a surprise.

Water and Fire decks were highly played (85-90%). I even ended up splashing some water cards but it just wasnt enough to stand up to a pure fire-hydrant deck.

Simoon went a pedestran like 4-4. I made it to the 2nd day and proceded to get out played, out lucked, and all of my opponents were running fire and water which though I hate to admit it is the BEST deck out there.

[Kirigakure no Kijin]

Ö.Ö..............................Thank God that i stoped playing F/WA

-Dattebayo!

[Crimson]

OK so at Anime Expo nothing was really much of a surprise.

Water and Fire decks were highly played (85-90%). I even ended up splashing some water cards but it just wasnt enough to stand up to a pure fire-hydrant deck.

Simoon went a pedestran like 4-4. I made it to the 2nd day and proceded to get out played, out lucked, and all of my opponents were running fire and water which though I hate to admit it is the BEST deck out there.

Yea im hearing this alot. Thats not good news at all. I guess from now on Ill tell my shop that they should be running decks in expectance for Coils of the Snake. In other words, keep the decks you have, wether their fire hydrant clones or not, and start prepping for Coils. Lets hope we see at least three different top tier (even) decks in Coils.

[All Seeing Eyes]

OK so at Anime Expo nothing was really much of a surprise.

Water and Fire decks were highly played (85-90%). I even ended up splashing some water cards but it just wasnt enough to stand up to a pure fire-hydrant deck.

Simoon went a pedestran like 4-4. I made it to the 2nd day and proceded to get out played, out lucked, and all of my opponents were running fire and water which though I hate to admit it is the BEST deck out there.

I was really afraid of that. It's the reason I didn't atten AX or Origins. Even though I have the cards needed for my Fire/Water deck, I didn't like the thought of Mirror Matchs all day. Not enough variety, yet. I'm hoping Coils brings some new 'good' decks. The only reason I'm waiting to attend major Naruto events is because a lot competative decks look the same. And it seems I predicted right, sadly.

[waiya]

my lastest deck is up.

I used it at AX code named TSUNAMI! ooOOooOOo..lol

[Keniko]

This isnt to say that other decks cant compete with fire hydrant. I believe that there are some decks out there that compete against fire hydrant extremely well.

Though fire hydrant or steam is the best deck out there. One of the reasons why all the decks in the top 8 were fire/water was because a vast majority of the people playing were using that deck.

Another fire/wind deck piloted by my friend Tom was in 9th place. I still believe that fire/wind has about a 50% chance against fire/water decks. He went 5-2 against fire/water and I went 3-2 against fire water decks.

[Kirigakure no Kijin]

F/WA decks are great decks,I admit it but they get played so much that it kinda disturbs ppl when you always see 58-65% of the decks being played now(my friends always say $#!± :D) but ppl can find some ways around them,if you play against alot of them then by the first or second deck youve played you just found out their strategy unless you get bad draws.I dont know how you guys handle F/WA but its quit simple where I live since I kill them

-Dattebayo!

[All Seeing Eyes]

This isnt to say that other decks cant compete with fire hydrant. I believe that there are some decks out there that compete against fire hydrant extremely well.

Though fire hydrant or steam is the best deck out there. One of the reasons why all the decks in the top 8 were fire/water was because a vast majority of the people playing were using that deck.

Another fire/wind deck piloted by my friend Tom was in 9th place. I still believe that fire/wind has about a 50% chance against fire/water decks. He went 5-2 against fire/water and I went 3-2 against fire water decks.

Fire/Wind is a great deck. I wasn't implying that Fire/Water was the only competative deck, if some were mistaken. What I mean is that the current metagame will, as I predicted, be about 80-90% Water/Fire. Wind/Fire is actually one of the best decks out there and I'm currently building my own.

[Jin]

im currently working on a Earth/Fire but im afraid if Coils is going to be legal all weekend at Gencon... i wont be playing, ill be judging or demoing or something else. legalising a set so soon after a release makes for a lot of money plays and is essentially unfair.

but if not i'll likely play it there! itll either be a volcano or mud monster one of the two.

as far as F/wa goes... it can be beat, and justifiably prepared for. but something SOLELY devised against it(which is hard to do against anything) will suffer in the long un vers other decks that just dont happen to be f/wa. But were all willing to try, i just didnt last weekend due to tourney scheduling problems. thought i had 2 days, all i had was about an hour to go sign up and get ready. ><

[Kirigakure no Kijin]

First page again =p

-Dattebayo!

[waiya]

hummm i wonder if my Tsunami! will make it on here as well *WINK WINK*

PS im going to try to make it to comic cult this friday for the tourney if i can find the extra 2 to 3 hours it will take to get there and home.


Tsunami! (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=4459)

[Saigo]

hummm i wonder if my Tsunami! will make it on here as well *WINK WINK*

PS im going to try to make it to comic cult this friday for the tourney if i can find the extra 2 to 3 hours it will take to get there and home.


Tsunami! (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=4459)

Glares at keniko***

Well I'm positive I'll make it there next week. Hopefully I'll see you there (one less fire/water at the very least).

[Keniko]

Haha my bad... I just wasnt around to post for a long time.

Ill post that right now.
[URL="http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=4459"]
"Tsunami!"[/URL by waiya.

Tired of playing fire/water? Or maybe just the fire part of the deck? If so this deck is just what you need. It utilizes the power of the water jutsu's and Zab [DoCV]. With the awesome support of wind and its draw cards. Ive personally played against it and seen it in action and it is one of my favorite decks out there at the moment.

Anyone else have any nominations?

[Teepa]

Since it seems to be doing better then my other deck did in my area, I'll go ahead and nominate it. It does have a good ammount of views, but not too many replies, I suspect partly because there isn't much to tweak with in the deck, and partly because it is a partly more advanced deck style.

Anyway, "Anti-Chakra Beatdown" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=4346) Needless to say, it's a control deck, though of a different style then most :p.

[Ignatious]

Since it seems to be doing better then my other deck did in my area, I'll go ahead and nominate it. It does have a good ammount of views, but not too many replies, I suspect partly because there isn't much to tweak with in the deck, and partly because it is a partly more advanced deck style.

Anyway, "Anti-Chakra Beatdown" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=4346) Needless to say, it's a control deck, though of a different style then most :p.
i second this nomination

[Kirigakure no Kijin]

I third it,this deck seems to take down any kind of deck appart

-Dattebayo!

[Keniko]

"Anti-Chakra Beatdown" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=4346) by Teepa

Looking for a different type of deck to play? Still want it to be competitive? If so then look no further. "Anti-Chakra Beatdown" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=4346). If they(opponent.) have no chakra then they cant use their jutu's which is want this deck specializes in. It takes a higher degree of play skill then some other decks but rewards the player with a very strong deck in the right hands.

[Keniko]

Id love to post Vit's Deck on here but Im not sure if he goes on these forums and Id rather not till I get his permission even though Mr Wheat has already posted it.

[Teepa]

Id love to post Vit's Deck on here but Im not sure if he goes on these forums and Id rather not till I get his permission even though Mr Wheat has already posted it.
Sorry, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't. Actually, I'm almost positve that the only people from the local hobby store where I play at who do get on these forums are DemonoftheBloodyMist (My judge), and Myself.

[nara-shikamaru]

well didnt they already post his deck? anyways
Hello again, man ive been gone awhile....

Everyone recap!

[Gamabunta]

Wheres the love Keniko,

do I have to get on AIM before I get some Disaster love?

Disaster Control (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=4711)

[Keniko]

Wheres the love Keniko,

do I have to get on AIM before I get some Disaster love?

Disaster Control (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=4711)

What are you talking about its entered already... ;)

Lol. Anyways here is Gamabunta's take on
"Disaster Control" (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=4711). I personally have yet to play against it but I did see it in action a couple of times. It looks really solid and theirs nothing like using disaster ftw!

I personally dont have enough SR's to make it but if I did I would as I had expected this to be one of the best decks out there.

[Keniko]

Added "Fun" Decks and Mental Power to the first page of this thread. Go check em out!

Any new decks that you think should be added? Let me know.

Well with the pre-release of Coils this friday I expect to add alot more decks to this thread. I encourage you all to work hard and post your decks.

[Paizuri]

Hey add mine :). Combat in Extreme Conditions will be huge. IMHO! :p

[lod_leader2003]

Waterfall Deck...Hit The Ground HARD!

My Deck, I Am Nominating It.

Waterfall Deck (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?p=87090&posted=1#post87090)

[waiya]

BUM BUM BUUUUM!!!!!

the mill deck returns in a whole new way!


BE PREPARED!! or be DECKED!

[Kirigakure no Kijin]

Keniko, fell free to remove my deck. I have constructed my deck over again, and it has evolved into into "Watery Mind's of Soil and Air (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=6884)"
Sorry for any inconvineance.

-Dattebayo!

[Keniko]

Just added your deck. Also if you feel like a certain deck should be on here let me know and I will post it.

[ANIMEniac]

If my deck does well in the tourney today, I'll nominate it =)

[Casper0878]

hey, maybe you can update the decks by deleting the ones that dont include coils of the snake cards. out with the old and in with the new!!

[Keniko]

The problem with deleting all the old ones is that most of them are still contenders. If they become obselete then more than likely they will be removed.

Also there hasnt been alot of Coils decks that have been nominated so it will look rather lonely at the moment. I'll make sure to update this when more new decks are nominated.

Yes it is extremely hard to get (coils) cards right now so that could also be one of the reasons for the lack of new decks.

[Casper0878]

ok, that sounds cool. im working on a dreadful scars/disaster deck. if i can get it to work consistently ill put it up for review and maybe nomination.

[Sensei2312]

hey, maybe you can update the decks by deleting the ones that dont include coils of the snake cards. out with the old and in with the new!!

The problem is that a lot of people playing these decks don't have coils (Much like myself) and haven't updated their decks. I think I should nominate my Kakashi Beatdown deck. It mixes the SR Sakura with cards like the promo Naruto (The one that gets +1/+1 when it's with Sakura) and the Kakashi CIS w/Lightning Blade to get a Rush/Beatdown Experience. Cards like Copy Ninja and when I get it Early Settlement help out a lot plus utilizing the power of Might Guy and Rock Lee to continue that rampage. Other cards consist of Sakura AFA and Naruto NTC to, Sakura to help replenish my Chakra when either my opponent gets rid of it or I do, so I don't have to get rid of too many of my cards so I can keep Naruto at full power often.

[Casper0878]

The problem is that a lot of people playing these decks don't have coils (Much like myself) and haven't updated their decks. I think I should nominate my Kakashi Beatdown deck. It mixes the SR Sakura with cards like the promo Naruto (The one that gets +1/+1 when it's with Sakura) and the Kakashi CIS w/Lightning Blade to get a Rush/Beatdown Experience. Cards like Copy Ninja and when I get it Early Settlement help out a lot plus utilizing the power of Might Guy and Rock Lee to continue that rampage. Other cards consist of Sakura AFA and Naruto NTC to, Sakura to help replenish my Chakra when either my opponent gets rid of it or I do, so I don't have to get rid of too many of my cards so I can keep Naruto at full power often.

post your deck. that sounds interesting

[Sensei2312]

post your deck. that sounds interesting

How do you want me to post it just like if I were asking for advice?

[Casper0878]

How do you want me to post it just like if I were asking for advice?

yeah, put it up in the deck garage for advice and critique and then come here and put a link to it. someone might nominate it. i definitely wanna check it out

[Sensei2312]

yeah, put it up in the deck garage for advice and critique and then come here and put a link to it. someone might nominate it. i definitely wanna check it out

It won't let me link it but I did post my deck so check it out.

[Casper0878]

http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?p=94048&posted=1#post94048

here is the link. dang im good, lol

[Naruto7o2]

"You Know Those Mutants They Talk About On The News? Well Im The Worst One."

http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=6963

96% Pure Fire Deck

[Sensei2312]

"You Know Those Mutants They Talk About On The News? Well Im The Worst One."

http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=6963

98.99% Pure Fire Deck

It isn't bad actually.:D

[ShadowHokage]

Johny~ Tsunami~ heheheh
http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=7111
faster and stronger than before

[Sensei2312]

Johny~ Tsunami~ heheheh
http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=7111
faster and stronger than before

I like your deck too! It has a few missing pieces but what one doesn't?:D

[ANIMEniac]

I'd like to nominate my deck, Mental Disorder (previously titled Failed Exams).
http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?p=87597#post87597

*plus a bump for this thread :D *

[Sasori]

You cant nominate your own decks. You either do something at a large event with said deck, or have a detailed report of sorts and one of the better players on the forum can nominate it.

[gram69890]

are u going to post the new deck lists b4 gencon hits

also does anybody have a good link on the whole mental power rules thing kinda need to find out about how it works cause im getting in so many arguements about mental power battles:mad:

[MallyMal]

are u going to post the new deck lists b4 gencon hits

also does anybody have a good link on the whole mental power rules thing kinda need to find out about how it works cause im getting in so many arguements about mental power battles:mad:

go to the rule book or the faq i don't understand why you would get into an arguement about it. You only perform a mental battle when something tells you to.

Currently there is only one deck to beat so the title of this thread is pointless unless Gencon provides more decks than fire water.

[ANIMEniac]

I'd have to disagree. Fire/Wind was a good contenter in the first set. Fire/Water is just more widely used.

Hmm...i think many peopel are keeping it hush hush about their new CotS decks for Gencon. Nothing like the element of surprise. I can't wait to see the deck list for that event. I expect to see some MP decks up in the top *don't dissapoint me! =p*

[Sasori]

I'd have to disagree. Fire/Wind was a good contenter in the first set. Fire/Water is just more widely used.

Hmm...i think many peopel are keeping it hush hush about their new CotS decks for Gencon. Nothing like the element of surprise. I can't wait to see the deck list for that event. I expect to see some MP decks up in the top *don't dissapoint me! =p*

I dont even know if im playing MP yet... And im the pioneer ^_^.

[MallyMal]

I'd have to disagree. Fire/Wind was a good contenter in the first set. Fire/Water is just more widely used.

Hmm...i think many peopel are keeping it hush hush about their new CotS decks for Gencon. Nothing like the element of surprise. I can't wait to see the deck list for that event. I expect to see some MP decks up in the top *don't dissapoint me! =p*

when you look at a top 8 of a tourney and this deck's are all fire/water what the deck to bea?T you say it urself fire/wind is a contender that does not make it the deck to beat. I'm not saying any of the deck's are bad. But thats like the steelers winning the superbowl and the seahawks being the team to beat.

[ANIMEniac]

That's true about the top 8 being all Fire/Water, but reading the experience of the players that were there, the greater majority (80%?) was Fire/Water.

I'm looking at it in view of deck strength. Fire/Wind stands well against Fire/Water. So IMO, it should be considered a deck to beat. I would have to agree with whoever posted it in the thread - if more people ran Fire/Wind, the deck would be in the top 8.

[Teepa]

That's true about the top 8 being all Fire/Water, but reading the experience of the players that were there, the greater majority (80%?) was Fire/Water.

I'm looking at it in view of deck strength. Fire/Wind stands well against Fire/Water. So IMO, it should be considered a deck to beat. I would have to agree with whoever posted it in the thread - if more people ran Fire/Wind, the deck would be in the top 8.
Actually, one might say that it did make it to the top 8, due to Vit's deck actually being Fire/Water/Wind. In the end, it all depends on how well prepared your deck is for just about everything, there will always be the random oddball or two that are playing some totally off the wall deck, I know, I tend to be one of them, but that doesn't mean that you will beat them, they may be a better player, and they may know their own deck better. My Anti-chakra deck tends to do fairly well at the local level (not good enough to win, but hey, I have Vit to deal with here!), and the oddball decks no one is ever really prepared for, because they expect to see more mainstream decks. The fact of the matter is that the deck most played does have the most chance to get into the top 8, but that doesn't mean that it's the only one that can. A Fire/Wind deck is not odd ball enough to not be expected, people will be ready for it.

Also, Sasori you are not the "pioneer" of Mental Power decks, it is an obvious deck to be made, just as Water/Fire is, and thus no one is truly the pioneer, I'm sure plenty of people had the idea of playing mental power decks when coils came out, and were thinking about it before coils launched, just like you were. Mental was going to be popular wheither or not you posted it. A pioneer is someone who tries something new, mental power is in no way new, yes it is in the new set, but as I said, it is obvious, and to be expected.

That which you least expect is most likely to beat you. As the drow say, "Those who watch their backs meet death from the front"

[Sasori]

Actually, one might say that it did make it to the top 8, due to Vit's deck actually being Fire/Water/Wind. In the end, it all depends on how well prepared your deck is for just about everything, there will always be the random oddball or two that are playing some totally off the wall deck, I know, I tend to be one of them, but that doesn't mean that you will beat them, they may be a better player, and they may know their own deck better. My Anti-chakra deck tends to do fairly well at the local level (not good enough to win, but hey, I have Vit to deal with here!), and the oddball decks no one is ever really prepared for, because they expect to see more mainstream decks. The fact of the matter is that the deck most played does have the most chance to get into the top 8, but that doesn't mean that it's the only one that can. A Fire/Wind deck is not odd ball enough to not be expected, people will be ready for it.

Also, Sasori you are not the "pioneer" of Mental Power decks, it is an obvious deck to be made, just as Water/Fire is, and thus no one is truly the pioneer, I'm sure plenty of people had the idea of playing mental power decks when coils came out, and were thinking about it before coils launched, just like you were. Mental was going to be popular wheither or not you posted it. A pioneer is someone who tries something new, mental power is in no way new, yes it is in the new set, but as I said, it is obvious, and to be expected.

That which you least expect is most likely to beat you. As the drow say, "Those who watch their backs meet death from the front"

Says the person who steals idea's. Anyway, people did want to play mental. But they change there deck based on my imput... the imput i put lots and lots of hours into. I play different cards what people probally would have never been thought of to this day...

Colombus was a pioneer. He discovered something that was already there, and had already been discovered.

[Teepa]

Says the person who steals idea's. Anyway, people did want to play mental. But they change there deck based on my imput... the imput i put lots and lots of hours into. I play different cards what people probally would have never been thought of to this day...

Colombus was a pioneer. He discovered something that was already there, and had already been discovered.
you have to know of an idea to steal it, and I didn't know of your idea, besides, I'm not even going to be playing that deck, but moving the cards into a deck of my own creation. And yes, Colombus was a pioneer, because he discovered somwthing that people did not know about, yes some people knew about it, but not the general public, because the vikings didn't really tell everyone where it was and how to get there and such.

And just because people change their deck based on your input doesn't mean that you created mental power decks, perhaps you made them better, but you didn't create them, you didn't discover them, and you were not the first person to consider them.

Mental power decks have been played in japan, and I'm sure several people in japan have figured out how to make them work perfectly.

Also, mental power decks are one that is obvious because well, mental power isn't used for anything else. You may have discovered a combo or two for the deck, but you did not discover the entire deck, because any deck that uses mental power is a mental power deck, and they do not have to base their deck off yours to have a mental power deck. I'm not saying that your deck is not a good one, but it's not the only mental deck out there, you didn't pioneer mental decks in whole, but if anything your one version of a mental deck.

[Keniko]

Fire/Wind was able to match up quite well against fire/water. In fact both me and my friend Tom used Simoon at Anime Expo and had winning records against fire/water. 4-2 and 5-2 respectively.

If more people had run fire/wind... Only about 3 I know of at Anime Expo as opposed to say 70 people running fire/water you best believe that fire/wind would have more than one in the top 8.

I must agree that fire/water was the deck to beat in Path but now that Coils has been released while it provides fire/water with some new cards it still doesnt haven enough mental power to contend against MP decks that will be played vastly.

That is a problem that fire/wind has as well but it isnt so severe that it loses 70-80% of the time against MP decks.

Just my thoughts... On Top 8 at GenCon.

I believe that fire/water will have 2 slots in the top 8 due to the fact that people love Zabuza and the water jutsu's and that it will still be the most played deck.

I think fire/wind will garner 2 slots as well because of its solid game against a majority of the decks. It has enough MP to at least hang with MP decks and has enough fire power to deal with others.

MP Decks will take about 3 slots because they will be highly played and have a distinct advantage over the previous two decks.

1 Random rogue deck will make it. Wheter it be a hybrid fire/water/wind like Vit's. Or maybe even Disaster Deck, Taijutsu, Mill, fire/earth, lightning/water etc... I think it will make an appearance because of its unpredictability and might have secret tech cards against all the decks.

[Shinsetsu_Yagami]

I allready can tell the top decks at Gen-Con will have 4-6 SRs in them.... further proving SRs > skill again. People will be packing 3 Demons now, 3 Hakus etc. Money is still the winner for now.

[waiya]

Am i a pioneer?

[Shinsetsu_Yagami]

Am i a pioneer?

In your area yes, overall.... probably not, I bet a JPN player was running it 3 years ago, and it is accessable to find out what JPN players were running when the first 2 sets came out. So i'm sure lots of players ran deck out *USA* and just never come to the board or felt like posting anything to let players know what to expect.

[Kintaro]

Says the person who steals idea's. Anyway, people did want to play mental. But they change there deck based on my imput... the imput i put lots and lots of hours into. I play different cards what people probally would have never been thought of to this day...

Colombus was a pioneer. He discovered something that was already there, and had already been discovered.


Soooo...how long did YOU play the Japanese version? :D

tons - and I mean TONS - of others have played the MP angle for far longer than you even knew the game existed, and as stated above, even MORE people saw the MP stuff coming - and were preapared for it....

They just didn't pop around saying (In high girly-like voice) "OooOOOOhhhhh....I was the first....I made this first....I was the
pio-neeEEEeer..."

Yeesh. 'swhy I spend so little time reading the deck forum.....

Your deck ideas are awsome - don't go crappin it up by saying you're the 1st guy to come up with this stuff.....

kintaro

[Kintaro]

Am i a pioneer?


LOL!!

K

[MallyMal]

theres some heated words in this thread lol

[Keniko]

I think I'll kill this thread... Probably kill my Simoon thread and start a new one. Both of them are just way too sloppy now.

If anyone wants to make a decks to beat coils edition feel free... If not I can do it... It doesnt take that much effort.

[Sasori]

Soooo...how long did YOU play the Japanese version? :D

tons - and I mean TONS - of others have played the MP angle for far longer than you even knew the game existed, and as stated above, even MORE people saw the MP stuff coming - and were preapared for it....

They just didn't pop around saying (In high girly-like voice) "OooOOOOhhhhh....I was the first....I made this first....I was the
pio-neeEEEeer..."

Yeesh. 'swhy I spend so little time reading the deck forum.....

Your deck ideas are awsome - don't go crappin it up by saying you're the 1st guy to come up with this stuff.....

kintaro

Ive played the japenese version since it came out. Numerous times ive qouted or gave japenese card text's on these forums... I believe you were in the conversation as well.

And yeah, im not saying that im the first. I already said that, but my idea's were not played in japan nor america. Sure, someone might have made something like it before... But it doesnt matter if no one knows. Like Christopher Columbus, and every inventor in our history... How many people might have "thought" about cell phone FAR before they came out. But the person that made it happen... he's the one whos the "pioneer".

[Crimson]

eh, some folks (i.e. me) dont bother reading other player's ideas (although I do browse through deck ideas similar to ones played in my shop and inform those posters of ideas that worked at my venue during playtesting). I just playtest, and see what works. So technically, seeing as how the set released everywhere at almost the same time, you weren't a "pioneer" to begin with. You just posted a good deck idea before anyone else. Till your deck starts pwning other deck ideas in premier events, you can't really call yourself the "pioneer" of MP decks, as you have nothing to show for it in an actual, large OP enviroment. When you do, then you can proclaim that. (Mind you, this applies to pretty much anyone else who claims their "pioneers" of certain deck ideas.)

[CainerWolf]

Seeing as how Keniko has requested this thread be closed, I think I'll do just that. Arguments are getting a little too heated as well. Time to just take a step back and breathe :)