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Naruto
03-07-2006, 07:57 PM
Did you know that the American Naruto TCG series 1,is made up from series 1&2 japanese Naruto TCG?
VermilionOne
03-07-2006, 09:50 PM
Since I saw a number of 125 for the set size (pretty small...) does that mean each japanese set is about 60 cards each? Or did they pcik and choose?
Uchiha Dresuke
03-07-2006, 10:51 PM
That I don't know but it could be easily found on the net.
masterryanx
03-07-2006, 11:10 PM
Well, I'm not surprised that's fairly tipical of most games when they come to america...
Thornpierced
03-08-2006, 02:45 AM
Guess Bandai figures they'll hit the main fanbase while Naruto's a hot commodity around the states.
Uchiha Dresuke
03-08-2006, 07:04 AM
I'm glad they are doing it this way though. From what I've heard it's a really good game in Japan. I think they are already on their 8th expansion.
Sasuke
03-08-2006, 10:14 AM
wow, i hope this game gets popular enough to where it is that successful.
VermilionOne
03-08-2006, 10:17 AM
Don't hope, work ;) There's a link in the top right corner that says "organized play" if you qualify, you can become a Meijin (game organizer) and hold tournaments in your area. Also, don't forget to tell people at any oter CCG/Naruto message boards that this one is open for business.
Kyle81
03-08-2006, 10:33 AM
Don't know exactly about what cards where in the Japanese sets, but I got all the cards for the US set being release in April. For the introduction of the game series, we are only getting 3 card types (Ninjas, Jutsu, and Missions).
Later expansions will add Client cards. Several mechanics in the game also will not be in the introductory set like "growth" cards.
outlaw
03-08-2006, 10:39 AM
...but I got all the cards for the US set being release in April.
i hate u already. j/k :D
how many did bandai give u? a playset of 3 or 5 of each card?
Kyle81
03-08-2006, 10:42 AM
I get the cards in digital format in a file. I gotta have the cards on file for various reasons and I need to have knowledge of all the cards. ;)
outlaw
03-08-2006, 10:48 AM
umm...can i get a copy of those please? :D i would like to start finding errors and loop holes in the cards before they come out XD
Kyle81
03-08-2006, 11:00 AM
Hehe, no. I have a confidentiality agreement signed with Bandai, could get in trouble if I started just giving these things out.
Going to have to wait till you can buy the cards.
Chronomaster
03-08-2006, 12:03 PM
Please, if you have the file, and since I know you've been dealing with bad wordings with GWar having quite a few hitches in it's opening and all, tell me the cards are worded with less failings than before.
Also: Hooray for fasttracking games!
Joshua
03-08-2006, 01:16 PM
Since I saw a number of 125 for the set size (pretty small...) does that mean each japanese set is about 60 cards each? Or did they pcik and choose?
Small?! You really think so? I guess Yu-Gi-Oh! is an outlier when it comes to TCGs, then? Until the US sets were synched with the Japanese ones in that game, we had about 120 cards per set, since they were composed of two Japanese sets. Now they are all about 60 cards per set.
I have to say, I prefer "small" sets like this much more than whatever else other games have. It makes it easier to recognize all the cards.
I hope that this game is consistent with the Japanese version, except of course for the fact that our first set is the Japanese's first two sets (or at least I hope it's fact).
Don't know exactly about what cards where in the Japanese sets, but I got all the cards for the US set being release in April. For the introduction of the game series, we are only getting 3 card types (Ninjas, Jutsu, and Missions).
Later expansions will add Client cards. Several mechanics in the game also will not be in the introductory set like "growth" cards.
Is that consistent with the Japanese game?
Please, if you have the file, and since I know you've been dealing with bad wordings with GWar having quite a few hitches in it's opening and all, tell me the cards are worded with less failings than before.
Also: Hooray for fasttracking games!
What's "fasttracking"?
Chronomaster
03-08-2006, 01:19 PM
What's "fasttracking"?
Means that our releases come in larger set sizes than normal, trying to bring us in line with the Japanese meta.
Or, my assumption could be off, and the releases are only bundled as such to provide a larger set to pull from.
Joshua
03-08-2006, 01:25 PM
Means that our releases come in larger set sizes than normal, trying to bring us in line with the Japanese meta.
Or, my assumption could be off, and the releases are only bundled as such to provide a larger set to pull from.
I see. So it could be that they are just releasing larger sets at a slower rate, or they could be trying to catch up with Japan, like UDE did with Yu-Gi-Oh!
In any case, I think it's a good thing, but I would hope for the latter to be the real reason for it.
Kyle81
03-08-2006, 01:41 PM
Small?! You really think so? I guess Yu-Gi-Oh! is an outlier when it comes to TCGs, then? Until the US sets were synched with the Japanese ones in that game, we had about 120 cards per set, since they were composed of two Japanese sets. Now they are all about 60 cards per set.
I have to say, I prefer "small" sets like this much more than whatever else other games have. It makes it easier to recognize all the cards.
Depends on the game really. Majority of card games really normally use larger sized sets of close to 200 cars per set. Yu-Gi-Oh is a different game, and has always used the smaller set sizes, though the churn out new expansions pretty fast as well.
Uchiha Dresuke
03-08-2006, 02:40 PM
Man thats cool that you have all the cards already Kyle, did they give you a certain amount of each cards or anything?
Kyle81
03-08-2006, 03:20 PM
It's a computer file with all the cards in it. I'm supposed to have this so I have access to all the cards so I can be prepped for game release and for making rulings on card questions. They do this for all Bandai games and those who mod their boards.
Uchiha Dresuke
03-08-2006, 03:34 PM
Ah ok. Thats pretty cool. How long have you been working for Bandai?
Joshua
03-08-2006, 03:42 PM
Ah ok. Thats pretty cool. How long have you been working for Bandai?
I think he's "just" a GO/Meijin and a Moderator, but he doesn't actually work for Bandai (i.e. no salary). It would be nice to get a Mod's perks, though. ;)
Kyle81
03-08-2006, 04:00 PM
I'm a game organizer and a mod for Bandai, mainly worked with Gundam War CCG (and still do at www.gwcards.com)
I do some volunteer help with Bandai as well, so do some of the other mods from the various boards. Much of the websites are left up to the mods to handle so we are given lot of inside info and help with various aspects of the games.
Bandai takes care of us even though were not payroll saleries :D
masterryanx
03-08-2006, 04:06 PM
wow, i hope this game gets popular enough to where it is that successful.
Don't worry I have a HUGE gut feeling that it will pass Zatch Bell in sales and be up there with YGO, Magic, and Pokemon. I've already heard tons of people in my town talking about wanting to buy it and most people where I live don't really pick up new CCGs too easily...
narut0
03-09-2006, 08:16 AM
a japanese naruto set contains 60 cards and they take set 1 and 2 and make one set the same thing they did with zatch bell ,naruto is on its 14th set in japan and 15th soon to be released, naruto isent as big a hit in japan as bandai wanted its not enourmes popular like duel masters in japan but its popular and its not dying ther so it will see a long run i think, hope i answered everyone`s questions.
masterryanx i have the different gut feeling as u i have a feelin it will pass zatch bell in sales but i dont think it will be as popular as yugioh and mtg and just because its alot of talk aboute it doesent mean it will be a hit, but i think naruto will be popular enough to survive in the ccg market and get a long run here too,and btw pokemon its dead now americas top 5 best selling games in
1.mtg
2.ygo
3.duel masters
4.vs
5.inuyasha
Kyle81
03-09-2006, 08:24 AM
a japanese naruto set contains 60 cards and they take set 1 and 2 and make one set the same thing they did with zatch bell ,naruto is on its 14th set in japan and 15th soon to be released, naruto isent as big a hit in japan as bandai wanted its not enourmes popular like duel masters in japan but its popular and its not dying ther so it will see a long run i think, hope i answered everyone`s questions
Now I have to point out that you are correct as I finally got ahold of Japanese cards and note, that it is true, the first US set is made up of Japanese series 1 & 2.
I do also point out that to not expect this always as Bandai games does not always do this. For Gundam War for example (www.gundamccg.com) Bandai has been randomly mixing cards from the various Japanese sets, and they have done the same with most of their games in the past. Whether they will follow the trend of going in order with the Japanese sets is not 100%, they can deviate from this.
Uchiha Dresuke
03-09-2006, 11:15 AM
I just hope that Naruto is one of those CCGs that will be around for a good long while.
Joshua
03-09-2006, 03:22 PM
Now I have to point out that you are correct as I finally got ahold of Japanese cards and note, that it is true, the first US set is made up of Japanese series 1 & 2.
I do also point out that to not expect this always as Bandai games does not always do this. For Gundam War for example (www.gundamccg.com (http://www.gundamccg.com)) Bandai has been randomly mixing cards from the various Japanese sets, and they have done the same with most of their games in the past. Whether they will follow the trend of going in order with the Japanese sets is not 100%, they can deviate from this.
I hope they keep going in the same order as the Japanese sets, though.
Anyway, narut0, Duel Masters is popular?! I thought it was dead here, and I thought the anime had bombed here (it was really bad...). I didn't think it was too popular in Japan, either, though...Huh, interesting. From where do you get your information?
yuyuman345
03-09-2006, 05:27 PM
Don't worry I have a HUGE gut feeling that it will pass Zatch Bell in sales and be up there with YGO, Magic, and Pokemon. I've already heard tons of people in my town talking about wanting to buy it and most people where I live don't really pick up new CCGs too easily...
well heres the thing i agree with u that i will pass zb (man its suprising thought cause i thought alot of ppl trasition from zb to naruto and they havent....yet :( ) acually it dependes what bandai does next with naruto it might just have been the same effect with zbbeing really popular at first and not follow thought its still a popular game thought:D
Kyle81
03-09-2006, 06:13 PM
Naruto will bring in a whole new slew of fans beyond those converts from Zatch Bell. Really Zatch Bell is lowered at a younger age demographic than Naruto so we should be seeing some older and more teen players jumping into the Naruto CCG, lot of folks who never touched Zatch. Also remember this site just went up yesterday, and really it hasn't been announced publicly nor has the cards came out yet.
For a site that just opened and has not even had its cards released, the board has gotten suprisingly busy already. Give it some time, things are going to explode most likely here soon.
Rock Lee
03-10-2006, 02:14 PM
Now I have to point out that you are correct as I finally got ahold of Japanese cards and note, that it is true, the first US set is made up of Japanese series 1 & 2.
I do also point out that to not expect this always as Bandai games does not always do this. For Gundam War for example (www.gundamccg.com) Bandai has been randomly mixing cards from the various Japanese sets, and they have done the same with most of their games in the past. Whether they will follow the trend of going in order with the Japanese sets is not 100%, they can deviate from this.
I'm mostly familiar with the Digimon series; for comparison's sake, and to maybe let people get a little further insight into what might happen:
The first Starter Set and the first two Booster Sets of Digi-Battle (no longer in production) stuck pretty close to the Japanese game (Hyper Colleseum) it was based on. The American Booster 3 was almost identical to the Japanese Starter Three, but after that they started to pick and choose.
The current Digimon CCG isn't directly based on a Japanese game, but does recycle a lot of the artwork and some occassional ideas from Hyper Colleseum.
So it's anybody's guess how close Bandai USA will stick to the Japanese version in the long run.
Joshua
03-10-2006, 02:50 PM
I'm mostly familiar with the Digimon series; for comparison's sake, and to maybe let people get a little further insight into what might happen:
The first Starter Set and the first two Booster Sets of Digi-Battle (no longer in production) stuck pretty close to the Japanese game (Hyper Colleseum) it was based on. The American Booster 3 was almost identical to the Japanese Starter Three, but after that they started to pick and choose.
The current Digimon CCG isn't directly based on a Japanese game, but does recycle a lot of the artwork and some occassional ideas from Hyper Colleseum.
So it's anybody's guess how close Bandai USA will stick to the Japanese version in the long run.
I see. I still really hope they stay true to the Japanese version...
Thanks, and great name!
Uchiha Dresuke
03-10-2006, 03:08 PM
Well I hope Bandai stick true, but then again, they are the ones to make the calls of what will happen.
Rock Lee
03-10-2006, 04:31 PM
I see. I still really hope they stay true to the Japanese version...
Thanks, and great name!
Lol...I felt really lucky to get it. When I registered I went "It's early enough maybe nobody's got this one yet" and I was right.
If they stick close to the Japanese cards, there hopefully won't be any problem. A lot of Digi-Battle's problem came with them making some changes to the game mechanics; the "errors" just seemed to get worse as time went on.
And the fact it took almost a year between Booster Two and Booster Three didn't help either.
We all have to hope Bandai USA learned from the experience. So far I think they have.
masterryanx
03-10-2006, 11:42 PM
Lol...I felt really lucky to get it. When I registered I went "It's early enough maybe nobody's got this one yet" and I was right.
If they stick close to the Japanese cards, there hopefully won't be any problem. A lot of Digi-Battle's problem came with them making some changes to the game mechanics; the "errors" just seemed to get worse as time went on.
And the fact it took almost a year between Booster Two and Booster Three didn't help either.
We all have to hope Bandai USA learned from the experience. So far I think they have.
Not much in the case of Digimon. Bandai's pumping out more stupid mistakes and errors each set. One Piece and Zatch Bell seem pretty much perfect. ZB only has like 4 erratas (but a lot of clarifications as the game can be complicated) and OP has none to my knowledge. I mean have you seen that unofficial eratta thread of Cyber's, I mean it's huge and that's only Eternal Courage and Hybrid Warriors with the exception of X-Antibody, Name, Digivolution, and level fixes. Man, do I hope series 5 next month is going to get things right for Digimon -_- But seriously, I think Bandai's got Naruto in the bag... I think it's on its way to becoming a very sucessful game. ;)
Chronomaster
03-11-2006, 07:54 AM
...Zatch Bell seem pretty much perfect. ZB only has like 4 erratas...
HAHAHAHAHAHA
How I'd love to live in your world. :p
Joshua
03-11-2006, 02:15 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA
How I'd love to live in your world. :p
Eh? I assume this means ZB is a little more messed up than masterryanx would have me believe?
Rock Lee
03-11-2006, 04:09 PM
Not much in the case of Digimon. Bandai's pumping out more stupid mistakes and errors each set. One Piece and Zatch Bell seem pretty much perfect. ZB only has like 4 erratas (but a lot of clarifications as the game can be complicated) and OP has none to my knowledge. I mean have you seen that unofficial eratta thread of Cyber's, I mean it's huge and that's only Eternal Courage and Hybrid Warriors with the exception of X-Antibody, Name, Digivolution, and level fixes. Man, do I hope series 5 next month is going to get things right for Digimon -_- But seriously, I think Bandai's got Naruto in the bag... I think it's on its way to becoming a very sucessful game. ;)
Lol...I know what you mean..."Brimpmon"? :rolleyes: By the Codes...
What I mean is that it doesn't look like they're tinkering with Naruto's game mechanics the way they did with Digi-Battle. Digi-Battle got so messed up they had to put it to sleep and come up with a new game whole cloth--which is, indeed, still quite buggy.
Chronomaster
03-11-2006, 04:12 PM
If you compare it to the Japanese game, yes.
Not only has ZB in Japan had a huge overhaul system-wise (which isn't very important), a lot of the updated wordings and errata in Japan haven't reached here (Eshros, Let's Get Out of Here, and Professor Dartangan are very good examples of this). Not to mention the various grammatical errors in translation (for example, Wonrei's [Attack and Defend as One] effect states to use a Spell with 0 MP, not as if it were 0 MP as intended).
jpcali
03-12-2006, 05:04 AM
hope they keep the "no jutsu" names of the jutsu cards ^^
Itachi
03-12-2006, 05:13 AM
Did you know that the American Naruto TCG series 1,is made up from series 1&2 japanese Naruto TCG?
It would seem logical because that was how they did Zatch Bell TCG
Joshua
03-12-2006, 07:42 AM
hope they keep the "no jutsu" names of the jutsu cards ^^
They're not, because they want to appeal to as much people as possible, and because the card game is kind of based off the anime (uses anime pictures), they'll keep the names as "X Jutsu", like in the dub, instead of "X no Jutsu", as in the English manga.
zenuk, a young ninja
04-30-2006, 06:47 PM
weird enough, i did....
Sharingan Warrior
04-30-2006, 06:51 PM
yeah known that before I found this site which is a LONG time.
Dokuga Kazu
05-01-2006, 12:16 PM
They used japanese sets 1&2 and did not pick and choose cards. They may have altered some of the pictures but they did not pick and choose.
Narutofan.com has every japanese version of the card game up to series 10 and still updating. Check it out to see what's commin up.
Joshua
05-01-2006, 12:41 PM
They used japanese sets 1&2 and did not pick and choose cards. They may have altered some of the pictures but they did not pick and choose.
Narutofan.com has every japanese version of the card game up to series 10 and still updating. Check it out to see what's commin up.
If they're still updating, then where are the other five Japanese sets? O.O;;
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