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Frazzle Dazzle
12-02-2006, 10:05 AM
Who all is in awe of the Kabuto?

jakobsandberg
12-02-2006, 10:07 AM
I love him. I pre-ordered 4 boxes (Because I saved up my money) and I'm hoping to pull him and Orochimaru

akujin
12-02-2006, 10:10 AM
Cannot wait to run three of him and just say no to any jutsu

jakobsandberg
12-02-2006, 10:15 AM
I have a question about kabuto. Lets say hes on the field and you attack. They block and play Wind Style: Great Breakthrough. Would it be negated because of Kabutos effect, or will Kabuto stay on the field and you get 2 BRs.

BrockLee
12-02-2006, 11:50 AM
what is kabuto's stats and effect???

I knoe he is a 5 drop. thats all

PS. how do you find the effects of Japanese cards???

Gasshu Beru!
12-02-2006, 12:45 PM
what is kabuto's stats and effect???

I knoe he is a 5 drop. thats all

PS. how do you find the effects of Japanese cards???

You can PM Pokekid88 for the address to his translation site.
You will have to go to the Japanese Carddass site to see pictures.;)

TheLazyNaraKid
12-02-2006, 01:01 PM
Click here if you want spoilers. (http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showpost.php?p=210227&postcount=2)

snake shadow
12-02-2006, 02:13 PM
I love him. I pre-ordered 4 boxes (Because I saved up my money) and I'm hoping to pull him and Orochimaru


where do you by pre-order boxs ?

Hero_of_Konoha
12-02-2006, 02:17 PM
I have a question about kabuto. Lets say hes on the field and you attack. They block and play Wind Style: Great Breakthrough. Would it be negated because of Kabutos effect, or will Kabuto stay on the field and you get 2 BRs.

Well, if Kabuto's effect says "Cannot be targeted by any jutsus", then Wind Style would still effect him, since it isn't targeting him, it's targeting everybody. If the effect reads "Cannot be affected by any jutsus", then he would remain on the field.

I also know that one of the Sasukes has a similar effect...supposedly it can't be targeted by your opponent's jutsus.

Victor
12-02-2006, 03:21 PM
Well, if Kabuto's effect says "Cannot be targeted by any jutsus", then Wind Style would still effect him, since it isn't targeting him, it's targeting everybody. If the effect reads "Cannot be affected by any jutsus", then he would remain on the field.
Are you sure about that? I mean this isn't Yu-Gi-Oh!, where a card "specifically designates" a target. In the Naruto CCG, when a card targets multiple ninjas (like Wind Style: Great Breakthrough), each ninja is still considered to be targeted. Atleast that's the way I've been playing it.

So if Great Breakthrough was played, Kabuto wouldn't be affected (because Great Breakthrough wouldn't target him) and he'd stay in-play (like a built-in Disguise Jutsu/Fog Clone Jutsu).

hellojellojw
12-02-2006, 05:09 PM
Sasuke Open Your Eyes basically has the same effect as Kabuto but worse, as jutsus with two or less cost cant target him. But, Mr. Wheat explained to us about what would happen if say, Cheating or Evil Illusion: misleading jutsu were played against his team, that it would go through, since it targets his team. But of course, you never know what the ruling on Kabuto will be.

Mireiyu
12-02-2006, 05:15 PM
Well, if Kabuto's effect says "Cannot be targeted by any jutsus", then Wind Style would still effect him, since it isn't targeting him, it's targeting everybody. If the effect reads "Cannot be affected by any jutsus", then he would remain on the field.

I also know that one of the Sasukes has a similar effect...supposedly it can't be targeted by your opponent's jutsus.

if the target is all ninja, and since he's a ninja would he be targeted -_-

but they arent going to do it that way:(

caseydodd5000
12-02-2006, 05:16 PM
where do you by pre-order boxs ?
you can boxs preorder on www.ccgarmory.com

Lord_Versi
12-02-2006, 05:40 PM
wouldnt the card have to spificaly target him
fireball windblade and such

not broad multi targets
windbreakthrough giantvortex and such

akujin
12-02-2006, 06:43 PM
He is a 6/3 and his ability is valid and vortex, great breakthrough, and trigram cannot hit him.

Faris Kalin
12-02-2006, 11:12 PM
He is a 6/3 and his ability is valid and vortex, great breakthrough, and trigram cannot hit him.

Oh man, it's a valid ability too?! BTW, this is correct, vortex and GB still target the individual ninja even though they target the other ninjas too. I predict that pump jutsu using will increase upon the release of R&R. Perhaps the number of Tai decks will increase.

omegas421
12-03-2006, 07:22 AM
Best part is that he is Jonin:D so you can use trigrams with him and other jonin level jutsu:D

Otonin
12-03-2006, 10:44 AM
I don't know about the Vortex/Breakthrough question, but I know that this is gonna be one popular card from R&R.

BTW, I'm convinced the Valid part will be edited out of his card text in order to make banning/restricting unnecessary.

itachi_demon
12-03-2006, 10:53 AM
about greatbreakthrought and water vortex, yes they can affect kabuto because its not like yugi but he's effect is the same rule of sasuke open your eyes and not temari wind charmer

so if he is target by water vortex or great breakthrought is still send to the hand

but if he's effect reads as ( this ninja team cannot be the target of your opponents jutsu cards ) that would be beastly powerful

sharingan-warrior
12-03-2006, 11:01 AM
yes all and all kabuto will be a great card and I cant wait for him so I can use him in my mono water deck

Lee vs Neji
12-04-2006, 04:34 PM
Kabuto is just broken. nuf said.

kunais_and_sb-dunks
12-04-2006, 04:43 PM
right now hes too good, bandai might have to change him... but thats what we thought would happen to baki

Itachi_of_Akatsuki
12-05-2006, 08:08 AM
Does anyone know kabuto's rank?

Lord_Versi
12-05-2006, 11:13 AM
Jonin I think

Tromb2Ch2
12-05-2006, 11:17 AM
If they don't change it, yes it is jonin. Happy Ninja Day! http://askaninja.com/node/2349

Lord_Versi
12-05-2006, 11:27 AM
hes a 5th turn with hand cost, thats one he**of a genin/chunin if hes not jonin

Faris Kalin
12-05-2006, 12:55 PM
Hey, check out the new targeting rule announcement:

http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=15905

It looks like Kabuto won't be as strong as we originally thought.

JDragon
12-05-2006, 12:59 PM
Hey, check out the new targeting rule announcement:

http://www.bandaicg.com/naruto/showthread.php?t=15905

It looks like Kabuto won't be as strong as we originally thought.
Well...it still makes WS:GB basically unusable while he's out, makes Vortex not that good, and completely ruins Trigram, WS:GB, Fireball, Water Dragon, Vortex, etc. as counters.

Still too good imo.

Faris Kalin
12-05-2006, 01:03 PM
Well...it still makes WS:GB basically unusable while he's out, makes Vortex not that good, and completely ruins Trigram, WS:GB, Fireball, Water Dragon, Vortex, etc. as counters.

Still too good imo.

So basically he's just a little less broken than he was before. :)

SR Sakura
12-05-2006, 01:46 PM
I have been trying to tell you people this since all of you started FREAKING OUT about him...BUT NO why listen to somebody who actually ask these types of questions to the people in charge!

Itachi_of_Akatsuki
12-05-2006, 01:55 PM
yes, turns out he is a jonin, which means he can use water vortex. That's all I need him for, and support.

Lord_Versi
12-05-2006, 02:38 PM
the jonin is a bonus but that effect is killer weather its valid or not

Faris Kalin
12-05-2006, 10:08 PM
I have been trying to tell you people this since all of you started FREAKING OUT about him...BUT NO why listen to somebody who actually ask these types of questions to the people in charge!

B/c people lie all the time on the "intarweb"! :D

Deya Rae
12-05-2006, 10:36 PM
*laughs*
Apparently, you have to be named "JDragon" in order to get people to actually read and comprehend your posts.

SR Sakura (despite being a terrible card ;)) has worked with the Bandai officials at one or more major conventions. That means he has talked with people like Kim Logie and Andrew Lupp. Trust what he says.

Faris Kalin
12-05-2006, 10:43 PM
*laughs*
Apparently, you have to be named "JDragon" in order to get people to actually read and comprehend your posts.

SR Sakura (despite being a terrible card ;)) has worked with the Bandai officials at one or more major conventions. That means he has talked with people like Kim Logie and Andrew Lupp. Trust what he says.

LOL, OK. I think that he would be easier to trust if his name was SR Haku or SR 4th Hokage, though. :)

The Last Hokage
12-06-2006, 05:17 PM
is kabuto resticted in japan?

Lord_Versi
12-06-2006, 05:30 PM
weather he is or isnt the banning of cards here hasnt been stared

The Last Hokage
12-06-2006, 05:32 PM
yea, but they might change kabuto's effect or ruling so he doesnt have 2 b banned in the future!

itachi_demon
12-06-2006, 05:32 PM
well it may be banned in the japanese rulings but mr.wheat sead the game may change the ruling of that cards as sinonym of this card is unaffected by cards or something very close to this

Lord_Versi
12-06-2006, 05:44 PM
hopefully fo the sake that the mechanics arnt defunked

itachi_demon
12-06-2006, 06:07 PM
still kabuto is a card to be fear of in the game you can always count him in the field , really and amazing card

Curse marke Sasuke
12-06-2006, 06:09 PM
WTH?!?!NO HES THE BEST CARD EVER MADE!!!!Kabuto is great, and will be used in 99.99% of all decks with water.

itachi_demon
12-06-2006, 06:11 PM
third hokage from r&r can make him look bad

Lord_Versi
12-06-2006, 06:11 PM
End Of The Demon getim

itachi_demon
12-06-2006, 06:13 PM
you got it right too lord versi:cool:

Lord_Versi
12-06-2006, 06:16 PM
but i need more cards to make mine happen
youve got it

itachi_demon
12-06-2006, 06:18 PM
well fire / water will be interesting in feb.

Curse marke Sasuke
12-06-2006, 06:20 PM
End Of The Demon getim
Thats why I'm gonna run both:D

Lord_Versi
12-06-2006, 06:22 PM
fire/water will be a force to reccon with water/wind could still pull it out

itachi_demon
12-06-2006, 06:24 PM
water wind is chakra drain and ninja removal and fire water is negation and combact blow , yes water/ wind is a good deck but fire / wind the next set will be better:D

Lokifire
12-06-2006, 07:36 PM
kabuto would be affected, breakthrough targets "every ninja" meaning it targets every indevidual ninja, all ninja but him would be removed from play. this topic was brought up in the battle between earth disguise jutsu vs. wind breakthrough, making kabuto all that and a bag of chips

itachi_demon
12-07-2006, 01:05 PM
sorry to disappoint you but mr.wheat explain that already he would not be effected by GB but he would not cancel it either the word cannot be target will be the sinonym of this card cannot be affected :D

whatshotcomics
12-11-2006, 01:59 AM
There are so many points you people are overlooking, that I don't know where to begin.

First, you don't always have to target Kabuto, target the other Ninja in his team. (this may have been pointed out)

Second, just because you can't target him doesn't mean you can't target the Jutsu that he uses.

Third, there are cards that specifically target the team and not the Ninja in the team, and these would work against him.

Fourth, he is a late game card, and let's think about other late game cards people were "oh so stoked about:" 4th, Jiraiya, Gamabunta...

Fifth, he is extremely weak when injured.

Sixth, he is still vulnerable to Ninja effects (Naruto N-115, Dosu N-055, etc.).

Seventh, still vulnerable to Missions (Disaster, Tide, etc.)

Let's stop there.