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NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL
07-13-2008, 09:11 PM
What Do You Think Will Be The Deck To Beat

Evil Jim
07-13-2008, 09:30 PM
Alien(Frieza Final Form), then Unique comes in second, and last Super will get in there a couple times, if its does it right.

soviet prince
07-13-2008, 10:26 PM
What ever deck I am using :p

brolly
07-13-2008, 10:26 PM
hay thats my line honestly i think my ldea about villian/unique is great

NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL
07-13-2008, 10:30 PM
What ever deck I am using :p

lol read my user name its what ever deck im using

SuperSaiyan4Shino
07-13-2008, 11:14 PM
Alien(Frieza Final Form), then Unique comes in second, and last Super will get in there a couple times, if its does it right.

I disagree with you in that mattering on what other super cards we get super could be really good.

Also if they come out with a good spirit bomb(im hoping for one) people might consider running high turn gokus adn splashing other low turn cards from other elements in the place of turn 0 gokus........who knows.

Seems as if villian and earth got the low end of the stick this set especially earth which has absolutley no high turn ninja........while villian didn't get enough cards to be able to contend with super,unique, or alien.

As for unique my opinion is that if played right as u said super could far exceed this........my only problem right away with this deck would be the supers for this deck would all have to be pulled while super and alien can get most of there good cards from one or two starter decks.Basically saying that a good unique deck would take much longer to make seeing as that a number of supers would have to be pulled(piccolos, kamis,ect.) although i think this deck has great potential.

Evil Jim
07-13-2008, 11:38 PM
If there is a Spirit Bomb card in this set, I could see Super being on level with Unique, but Alien will still have the edge.


Also, Kami is a rare.

NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL
07-14-2008, 02:42 AM
spirit bom should be like discard a nija then discard the user

SuperSaiyan2 Gohan
07-14-2008, 10:12 AM
If there is a Spirit Bomb card in this set, I could see Super being on level with Unique, but Alien will still have the edge.


Also, Kami is a rare.

cool wut does kami do

SuperSaiyan2 Gohan
07-14-2008, 10:14 AM
spirit bom should be like discard a nija then discard the user

y would it discard the user goku never died as a result of using it, i think it will give goku a boost like chidori and rasengan did in naruto

JaniGreen
07-14-2008, 10:17 AM
cool wut does kami do

Look him up in the featured cards? He's got a whole theme preview dedicated to him.

DBZ
07-14-2008, 10:23 AM
their making spirit bomb in the set, it's just under a different name...




1.Alien <has EVERYTHING so far, plus Frieza FF>

2.Unique <great, but Alien's just better for right now>

3.Super <Frieza FF kills it, Super's pretty good, but since Alien is going to probobly see the most play, it just crushes the deck, so we'll only see a few good ones running around IMO>

Kisame8988
07-14-2008, 10:23 AM
Frieza will rule the first set meta for sure.

DNaraku
07-14-2008, 11:32 AM
their making spirit bomb in the set, it's just under a different name...

And what is your basis for thinking this?

JaniGreen
07-14-2008, 11:45 AM
And what is your basis for thinking this?

On the back of the starters, it says, if I recall correctly, "...master techniques such as Kamehameha, Kaio-Ken, and Genki Dama!"

Genki Dama is the Japanese name for Spirit Bomb.

DNaraku
07-14-2008, 12:04 PM
That doesn't mean that it is in the set.

JaniGreen
07-14-2008, 12:19 PM
That doesn't mean that it is in the set.

Edit - shutting my trap for now. I have reason to believe DNaraku and Zero have some sort of foresight that we lack.

Tsu Kiyo Me
07-14-2008, 09:59 PM
Edit - shutting my trap for now. I have reason to believe DNaraku and Zero have some sort of foresight that we lack.

They have previewed every card in the set. They know, as well as myself, what's in it.

Demonsoldier1126
07-14-2008, 10:01 PM
If there is a Spirit Bomb card in this set, I could see Super being on level with Unique, but Alien will still have the edge.


Also, Kami is a rare.

Evil Jim is right, Alien has most of the stuff to be successful. It's bound to change next set, if they add in some of the characters we were missing in this set (Super getting a boost if we could get a SB or a Trunks...)
But right now, Alien looks like it DOES have an advantage. The only thing it's missing is heavy drawing support, but that's been pointed out before NO one really has that.

Captain King
07-14-2008, 10:18 PM
NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL, more like NUMBER 1 NOT IN DRAGON BALL

NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL
07-14-2008, 10:24 PM
NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL, more like NUMBER 1 NOT IN DRAGON BALL
THAT WAS STUPID GET OF THIS THREAD

Yondaime Zero
07-14-2008, 10:28 PM
They have previewed every card in the set. They know, as well as myself, what's in it.
Tsu! Are you playing too? :D Shake off that 9th place curse! (It's N6H)

Captain King
07-14-2008, 10:41 PM
that Was Stupid Get Of This Thread

You Get Of This Thread!!!

soviet prince
07-14-2008, 10:58 PM
cool wut does kami do

there is a link to the card in my preview page

captainking: stop being rude he is just joking, don't get this thread locked

Captain King
07-14-2008, 11:12 PM
there is a link to the card in my preview page

captainking: stop being rude he is just joking, don't get this thread locked

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no lol

soviet prince
07-14-2008, 11:16 PM
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no lol

??????:confused:

Captain King
07-14-2008, 11:23 PM
??????:confused:


"There is two types of ppl ones who support frieza and one's that don't and they don't live very long"

soviet prince
07-14-2008, 11:31 PM
am I missing something that is my sig??

Captain King
07-14-2008, 11:33 PM
am I missing something that is my sig??

No, it's shlemma in the coola.

Ninja Pebble
07-15-2008, 01:01 AM
No, it's shlemma in the coola.
"There is two types of ppl ones who support frieza and one's that don't and they don't live very long"
Posts: 1,439

no lol
You Get Of This Thread!!!
NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL, more like NUMBER 1 NOT IN DRAGON BALL
...Theres more...

Captain King quit spamming. You will get in trouble if you do that. Also stop trying to start fights. That can get you in big trouble.

DDTpwnznoobz
07-15-2008, 06:37 AM
post .

NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL
07-15-2008, 03:25 PM
post . put poll up

NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL
07-15-2008, 03:41 PM
Mono-Alien probably has the best chance at it, but Mono-Unique isn't that far behind Alien. Maybe Alien/Earth if built right.
i like alien earth just beacause it has a lot of draw power and it get's dragon ball's faster to play upas wish to get out frieza final form faster

Ninja Pebble
07-15-2008, 03:42 PM
Mono-Alien probably has the best chance at it, but Mono-Unique isn't that far behind Alien. Maybe Alien/Earth if built right.

Mr. Saturn
07-15-2008, 04:13 PM
Mono Alien most likely.

Super_Saiya-jin_Vegeta
07-15-2008, 06:39 PM
Mono-Alien will be taking the top tier when it comes to the high level tournaments and more competitive environments... but, just for the heck of it, I believe there is going to be a fair mixture of decks in all of our local events. So, for a certain area, it will be hard to tell which games will be the big meta until we get the big events going... but, my vote goes with Alien, regardless.

All cower before the glory and might of Frieza!

Ignatious
07-15-2008, 07:43 PM
I honestly don't see Alein being too strong. Frieza is a lot harder to get out then you would think. Virtually 1/2 of your draws are eliminated through BRs and top charging. Because of that, It's tougher to get late game cards, as they often get tossed in the wrong places. Alien does have Roar, which is a nuisance to say the least..

JaniGreen
07-15-2008, 08:08 PM
I honestly don't see Alein being too strong. Frieza is a lot harder to get out then you would think. Virtually 1/2 of your draws are eliminated through BRs and top charging. Because of that, It's tougher to get late game cards, as they often get tossed in the wrong places. Alien does have Roar, which is a nuisance to say the least..

Except you don't have to top charge, plus charging Frieza (Final Form) is a GOOD thing. I highly doubt the competitive Mono-Alien decks will rely on Evolution and True Power to get Frieza out. They'll probably use Third Form and Final only (depending on what the Frieza we haven't seen does), and Upa's Wish him out most of the time anyway.

DNaraku
07-15-2008, 08:09 PM
I honestly don't see Alein being too strong. Frieza is a lot harder to get out then you would think. Virtually 1/2 of your draws are eliminated through BRs and top charging. Because of that, It's tougher to get late game cards, as they often get tossed in the wrong places. Alien does have Roar, which is a nuisance to say the least..

Alien has Frieza Final Form, Roar, Resisting Power, Vegeta, Stomping, Frieza's Henchmen and Death Ball.

Tell me how you don't see that Alien is going to be nearly impossible to win against first set.

Ignatious
07-15-2008, 08:17 PM
Except you don't have to top charge, plus charging Frieza (Final Form) is a GOOD thing. I highly doubt the competitive Mono-Alien decks will rely on Evolution and True Power to get Frieza out. They'll probably use Third Form and Final only (depending on what the Frieza we haven't seen does), and Upa's Wish him out most of the time anyway.

From testing, dragonballs are not relyable, furthermore, if you do not top charge, fine with me, I'll beat Frieza easy with techs from the chi I got from top charging. =/

Alien has Frieza Final Form, Roar, Resisting Power, Vegeta, Stomping, Frieza's Henchmen and Death Ball.

Tell me how you don't see that Alien is going to be nearly impossible to win against first set.

Good? Sure, ALien does have a lot of support. Nearly impossible to beat? WTF? NO! Any deck can run resisting power, Vegeta could skrew you over in a time where you don't want to attack. Frieza's Henchmen is good, as is Roar, but that's part of why Alien is a good deck. As for Frieza and Death Ball, read above, it's tough to get Frieza out.

DNaraku
07-15-2008, 08:35 PM
Good? Sure, ALien does have a lot of support. Nearly impossible to beat? WTF? NO! Any deck can run resisting power, Vegeta could skrew you over in a time where you don't want to attack. Frieza's Henchmen is good, as is Roar, but that's part of why Alien is a good deck. As for Frieza and Death Ball, read above, it's tough to get Frieza out.

Yeah, any deck can run Resisting Power but that means 3 off-element cards while in Alien they're on element. In all the games I have played with Vegeta, not once has he ever screwed me over, plus it's not like he's Valid. Henchmen is amazing, Stomping is worse, and Roar makes sure you can't negate things such as my Death Ball because I can use it to negate your Resisting, and then you can do nothing because no other element has negation that can stop non-destruction techniques.

As far as Frieza goes, I DID read what you said above and it was completely untrue. Every last game I have played with my Alien deck I have gotten Final Form out every last one of them, and quite easily I might add through ways of only running 3x Third Form and Final Form. In the few games that Final Form did pop up in the Chi or I never draw a Third Form I would simply use things like Henchmen and Stomping to discard him and bring him back with Upa's Wish.

I'm not going to try and force you to believe what is obvious fact, but you'll see for yourself once the set actually comes out and you've had the chance to play with the cards.

DNaraku
07-15-2008, 08:44 PM
i would say its return all opposing warriors to hand and only playable by a non-super sayin goku and perfect stage cell

What does that have to do with the current conversation at all?

brolly
07-15-2008, 08:45 PM
i would say its return all opposing warriors to hand and only playable by a non-super sayin goku and perfect stage cell

majingogeta344
07-15-2008, 08:47 PM
Yeah, any deck can run Resisting Power but that means 3 off-element cards while in Alien they're on element. In all the games I have played with Vegeta, not once has he ever screwed me over, plus it's not like he's Valid. Henchmen is amazing, Stomping is worse, and Roar makes sure you can't negate things such as my Death Ball because I can use it to negate your Resisting, and then you can do nothing because no other element has negation that can stop non-destruction techniques.

As far as Frieza goes, I DID read what you said above and it was completely untrue. Every last game I have played with my Alien deck I have gotten Final Form out every last one of them, and quite easily I might add through ways of only running 3x Third Form and Final Form. In the few games that Final Form did pop up in the Chi or I never draw a Third Form I would simply use things like Henchmen and Stomping to discard him and bring him back with Upa's Wish.

I'm not going to try and force you to believe what is obvious fact, but you'll see for yourself once the set actually comes out and you've had the chance to play with the cards.
How'd you get cards so soon?

Evil Jim
07-15-2008, 09:53 PM
How'd you get cards so soon?

We have playtesting on the computer, using images. Between him and me, I am the only one that really has cards, being that I have decks for being a Meijin.

majingogeta344
07-15-2008, 09:56 PM
We have playtesting on the computer, using images. Between him and me, I am the only one that really has cards, being that I have decks for being a Meijin.

Oh, but you guys can't use every card, cause you don't know what they all do, right?

You have only been playtesting with what's been released?

Evil Jim
07-15-2008, 10:22 PM
Oh, but you guys can't use every card, cause you don't know what they all do, right?

You have only been playtesting with what's been released?

Yes, but I believe that Alien, Unique, Super, will stand to be the best, in that order. Earth and Villain still stand to only be support this set, and can't stand on there own. You can not trust us or whatever. It does not matter, we playtested for our self to get a better understanding of the game. Then we have passed some of that on. Take what you want, but remember what we tested was high level meta, which is different then local meta.

NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL
07-16-2008, 06:41 PM
Yes, but I believe that Alien, Unique, Super, will stand to be the best, in that order. Earth and Villain still stand to only be support this set, and can't stand on there own. You can not trust us or whatever. It does not matter, we playtested for our self to get a better understanding of the game. Then we have passed some of that on. Take what you want, but remember what we tested was high level meta, which is different then local meta.ailen seem's like alot of hype woner if it will live up to it

Evil Jim
07-16-2008, 07:28 PM
ailen seem's like alot of hype woner if it will live up to it

All the playtesting we have been doing, is for high level play, which will probably not happen till second set anyway. I believe local play will be different and alittle more balance, unless you have a person that just buys alot and has very thing for the best deck, which might cost, because most cards will be highly wanted.

NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL
07-16-2008, 07:34 PM
All the playtesting we have been doing, is for high level play, which will probably not happen till second set anyway. I believe local play will be different and alittle more balance, unless you have a person that just buys alot and has very thing for the best deck, which might cost, because most cards will be highly wanted.

im pretty shure that my locals will have all of the card's beacause half the player's are judge's

Evil Jim
07-16-2008, 07:37 PM
im pretty shure that my locals will have all of the card's beacause half the player's are judge's

Just because you are a Judge does not mean you have all the cards. Yes most of the time a Judge(Meijin) is a person really in to the game, but there are also ones that just own the store, so they run the tournaments for the players.

NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL
07-16-2008, 07:38 PM
Just because you are a Judge does not mean you have all the cards. Yes most of the time a Judge(Meijin) is a person really in to the game, but there are also ones that just own the store, so they run the tournaments for the players.
no they have all of the card's the judge's that go to 3'j's are high ranked judge's

Evil Jim
07-16-2008, 07:45 PM
no they have all of the card's the judge's that go to 3'j's are high ranked judge's

There are no "High ranked judges". There are Meijins and people that work for Bandai. Some picked Meijins run higher level tournaments, but most of the time(from that I have seen) those are more store owner type.

Are you saying these guys buy alot of stuff to get cards, or Bandai gives them the cards. Because outside playtesters that work for Bandai, Bandai only gives out a deck or two the Meijins.

NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL
07-16-2008, 07:49 PM
There are no "High ranked judges". There are Meijins and people that work for Bandai. Some picked Meijins run higher level tournaments, but most of the time(from that I have seen) those are more store owner type.

Are you saying these guys buy alot of stuff to get cards, or Bandai gives them the cards. Because outside playtesters that work for Bandai, Bandai only gives out a deck or two the Meijins.

they get free card's they help make the game more even stuff like that i will probly have alot of card's to thou i play yugioh played sombody for a x box i put up ccv and dad won it sold it and buying boxes with it cant stand playing viedo game's other wise i would of cept it and stop playing yugioh to exspensive sold my hole deck

NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL
07-16-2008, 07:52 PM
So, there real playtesters thats way different then saying Judges get free cards.i dont now ther judge's i did not know of playtester's thats why i said judge's

Evil Jim
07-16-2008, 07:53 PM
they get free card's they help make the game more even stuff like that i will probly have alot of card's to thou i play yugioh played sombody for a x box i put up ccv and dad won it sold it and buying boxes with it cant stand playing viedo game's other wise i would of cept it and stop playing yugioh to exspensive sold my hole deck

So, there real playtesters thats way different then saying Judges get all the cards.

Evil Jim
07-16-2008, 07:59 PM
i dont now ther judge's i did not know of playtester's thats why i said judge's

Judges(Meijin) do not just get free sets of cards. If they "help make the game more even stuff", thats what playtesters do.

NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL
07-16-2008, 08:05 PM
Judges(Meijin) do not just get free sets of cards. If they "help make the game more even stuff", thats what playtesters do.
oh ok thank you learned somthing new

NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL
07-16-2008, 08:07 PM
Just next time, explain it fully instead of just saying something you might thing is close.

yes zir evil jim

Evil Jim
07-16-2008, 08:08 PM
oh ok thank you learned somthing new

Just next time, explain it fully instead of just saying something you might thing is close.

botounami
07-16-2008, 09:56 PM
they get free card's they help make the game more even stuff like that i will probly have alot of card's to thou i play yugioh played sombody for a x box i put up ccv and dad won it sold it and buying boxes with it cant stand playing viedo game's other wise i would of cept it and stop playing yugioh to exspensive sold my hole deck

I feel like this deck will rule the format.

NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL
07-17-2008, 08:23 PM
I feel like this deck will rule the format.

WHAT DECK..............

NUMBER 1 IN DRAGON BALL
07-17-2008, 08:34 PM
...wait, what?i think he just wrote that to build up his post

Saiyaman
07-17-2008, 09:31 PM
I feel like this deck will rule the format.


...wait, what?