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superfanboyguy
11-12-2009, 02:34 PM
Does anyone else feel that Dragonball should now have 50 card decks now since Clash of Sagas been released? It seems to me with the combination of Krillin, Wheelo, and Mystery Pots that I feel it should now be 50 card in a deck (so we don't have to use wishes like Revival of the earth or Upa's Wish to wish in an Old Kai so we don't mill ourselves?). With that being said, what do you guys think?

Decaf
11-12-2009, 02:39 PM
No, they shouldn't.

scubadude
11-12-2009, 03:00 PM
There is not enough card pool yet we need at least 10 sets . You might want to search past thread we have had multiple discussions on this.

Sephuji
11-13-2009, 06:22 AM
I think we should have 50 cards now I think the pool is big enough 10 sets is not needed 5 is more than enough they waited to long in naruto and i dont want that in this game

The card pool is big enough and this can be proven look at the new decks its all set 5 cards so throw in 10 other cards thats 4 more sets to pick from if you cant do this then wow i guess the pool is not big enough but there is no reason you cant
YES 50 cards

Zero
11-13-2009, 10:06 AM
With the existence of backup and the multitude of tutoring effects being added, 50 cards shouldn't throw off consistency like it does in naruto, so I would be for increasing the deck size to 50. I also strongly disagree with the card pool not being big enough. We have over 500 cards, with a ton of dual colored cards. If you can't build a deck of 50 cards then there is something wrong with you.

Rastas4Jesus09
11-13-2009, 10:12 AM
it would only b another 5 warriors and 5 techs/events, most times in deck building u prob have to cut cards to get under the limit so i dont think raising the # would b a big issue

the Joker0122
11-13-2009, 10:31 AM
it would only b another 5 warriors and 5 techs/events, most times in deck building u prob have to cut cards to get under the limit so i dont think raising the # would b a big issue

Ive said this all along with this debate, while most people said that there arent enough good cards right now to run in a 50 card deck. I strongly disagree. Majority of the time, and I know with alot of my friends as well, we'r near 45-50 cards when planning out a new deck and have to cut down to the 25 warrior and 40 card deck limit.

the Joker0122
11-13-2009, 10:38 AM
With the existence of backup and the multitude of tutoring effects being added, 50 cards shouldn't throw off consistency like it does in naruto, so I would be for increasing the deck size to 50. I also strongly disagree with the card pool not being big enough. We have over 500 cards, with a ton of dual colored cards. If you can't build a deck of 50 cards then there is something wrong with you.

Exactly. There is so much new that was added to the game, that it doesnt hurt raising the deck size to 50. Like you said, Backup is a great mechanic and an increase in the decksize doesnt hurt this. Also, there are numerous amounts of new draw cards. Dr Willow, Krillin, Pots, Roll Call, etc. Plus all of the older draw cards that we have like Hoi Poi Capsule, Nimbus Cloud, etc.

Im all for increasing the deck limit, and I strongly disagree with you Scuba as well. We have an abundance of cards now to choose from. If someone cant find 50 good cards to run in one deck, then you are too picky.

LordxMugen
11-13-2009, 10:46 AM
no. they dont need it now......or ever

Trunks the Swordsman
11-13-2009, 11:17 AM
I wouldn't mind the change at this point. Like others have said, 5 more Warriors and Techniques would not be that difficult an amount to add with all the great cards we have now. Even now, there were cards I wanted to add to my decks but I couldn't because I had to cut down to 40.

Decaf
11-13-2009, 11:51 AM
Just because we CAN do something doesn't mean we SHOULD do it.

We have a big enough card pool. Still, I don't like 50 cards as many others don't either. I know for a fact that the 50 card rule in Naruto caused many players to quit the game.

BalanceBJJ
11-13-2009, 12:12 PM
I wouldn't mind the change at this point. Like others have said, 5 more Warriors and Techniques would not be that difficult an amount to add with all the great cards we have now. Even now, there were cards I wanted to add to my decks but I couldn't because I had to cut down to 40.

That's the point. You should have to cut down from original rough ideas to make your deck.

scubadude
11-13-2009, 01:05 PM
I still feel we don't have enough tech's to make it fair to all the symbols. I mean right now to compete with the super and earth x decks. I find it hard to find tech's in symbols like Villain especially to combat those decks out side of chi control.

Random-Man
11-13-2009, 02:41 PM
Just because we CAN do something doesn't mean we SHOULD do it.

We have a big enough card pool. Still, I don't like 50 cards as many others don't either. I know for a fact that the 50 card rule in Naruto caused many players to quit the game.

it was much needed in naruto because some decks in that game were completely broken with it being at 40 cards.

Ninja Pebble
11-13-2009, 08:08 PM
I don't think we need it now, but maybe with 1 or 2 more sets like this one we can change it and I always like the 40-50, but I know that we will like never get that.

soviet prince
11-16-2009, 02:28 PM
O would not mind it changing but if it does or does not really don't matter to me

Makeshift Ghost
11-16-2009, 02:57 PM
Lets see.
More cards to add to a deck, making it possible for more strategy, makes it harder to hit really easy combos which makes games more fun and challenging. You won't see to much of the same old ****, like you will see in the new Super/Earth, Super/Alien, Alien/Villian, Mono Villian, etc. when more regional/crossover tournaments start to happen. It seems like a win-win.
40 ----> 50 cards= Great Success!

Random-Man
11-16-2009, 03:34 PM
Lets see.
More cards to add to a deck, making it possible for more strategy, makes it harder to hit really easy combos which makes games more fun and challenging. You won't see to much of the same old ****, like you will see in the new Super/Earth, Super/Alien, Alien/Villian, Mono Villian, etc. when more regional/crossover tournaments start to happen. It seems like a win-win.
40 ----> 50 cards= Great Success!

deck out is a strategy right now and we won't need to see a change untill we see cards that search the top 5 cards of deck or cards that mill top 5 cards of deck.

scubadude
11-16-2009, 05:07 PM
deck out is a strategy right now and we won't need to see a change untill we see cards that search the top 5 cards of deck or cards that mill top 5 cards of deck.

Decking out right now is very easy to obtain to be honest with all the fierce and thrash along with the card draw and top charging.

Random-Man
11-16-2009, 06:17 PM
Decking out right now is very easy to obtain to be honest with all the fierce and thrash along with the card draw and top charging.

I run revival of the planet and one of my decks run old kai

if your deck dosn't run it, then you better stomp your opponent out befor you deck out

scubadude
11-16-2009, 06:48 PM
I run revival of the planet and one of my decks run old kai

if your deck dosn't run it, then you better stomp your opponent out befor you deck out

I run them both as well.

FenMiHuo
11-18-2009, 07:12 AM
Naruto also doesnt charge chakra from the top of the deck, meaning in DB we go through the deck 2x faster (in most cases) that with Dr Wheelo and Krillen now Ive basically been on the verge of decking every game I played with my new Super/Alien deck, maybe I will have to add in old kai even if I dont want to.

theyellowdart
11-19-2009, 08:14 AM
I don't think we need it now, but maybe with 1 or 2 more sets like this one we can change it and I always like the 40-50, but I know that we will like never get that.

Yeah, 40-50 would be my choice as well. And I agree, bandai would would probably either leave it at 40 only or change it to 50 only. Personally, I think allowing anything in the range of 40-50 allows for more strategy in deck building.

Piccolo'sDad
11-19-2009, 08:42 AM
Naruto also doesnt charge chakra from the top of the deck, meaning in DB we go through the deck 2x faster (in most cases) that with Dr Wheelo and Krillen now Ive basically been on the verge of decking every game I played with my new Super/Alien deck, maybe I will have to add in old kai even if I dont want to.

It just means that sometimes you just don't use their effect. That's part of the strategy of it.

Goggles123
11-19-2009, 09:02 AM
My deck HAS to sideboard vs Bojack not to deck out. I wouldn't mind a 50 card deck limit just because of that. >.>

Deck building would happen just fine but the themes wouldn't be unique enough. Clash of Sagas is going to be the first of a line of good sets and I think we should get one more set before we get bumped up to 50. Though if they wanted to do it sooner I would welcome it.

SSJ_3_Son_Goku
11-22-2009, 06:12 AM
Just because we CAN do something doesn't mean we SHOULD do it.

We have a big enough card pool. Still, I don't like 50 cards as many others don't either. I know for a fact that the 50 card rule in Naruto caused many players to quit the game.

I agree, the 50 card change in naruto made me quit. But, I am torn between the decision, because there are cards I've had to cut from my decks before, but I don't want decks to lose their consistancy either.

Shinfitz
11-22-2009, 08:37 AM
Maybe they could try what Zero suggested when they did the change to fifty cards in Naruto, allow deck builders to choose for their decks to be anywhere between forty and fifty cards, with a thirty warrior limit.

Sephuji
11-22-2009, 09:54 AM
I agree, the 50 card change in naruto made me quit. But, I am torn between the decision, because there are cards I've had to cut from my decks before, but I don't want decks to lose their consistancy either.

50 cards was needed allthough it only happend to stop 1 card Gaara but they fixed that by making cards to keep him going 50 cards all so made a lot of cards that never saw the light of day looked at Its a good thing 440 cards does not promote enough originality

Maybe they could try what Zero suggested when they did the change to fifty cards in Naruto, allow deck builders to choose for their decks to be anywhere between forty and fifty cards, with a thirty warrior limit.

This is a bad idea cause you wont ever go above 42 cards and he wanted 9k to not die in naruto if a game jumping 10 card on deck makes you quit then why were you playing to start out if one SMALL change makes you want to not play then quit

when I quit it was because of the worlds worst power creep ive seen in either game but i play now and the power creeps are making me mad but they will be balanced

Zero
11-22-2009, 04:21 PM
This is a bad idea cause you wont ever go above 42 cards
How is that bad? I don't see anything wrong with players using the amount of cards they feel are necessary to allow their deck to function properly.

and he wanted 9k to not die
I didn't care about 9K, because it had already taken a huge hit with the introduction of ETDF and the OC ninjas. I cared about combo decks in general (Shikaku, Toads, etc) that now took a huge hit for no apparent reason, and how the format would be skewed toward aggressive plays because of how much easier it is to wind up with a weaker curve when their are 10 more cards in your deck. Please get off my nuts about Gaara, I don't understand why you think I love him so much :confused:

in naruto if a game jumping 10 card on deck makes you quit then why were you playing to start out if one SMALL change makes you want to not play then quit
While quiting isn't the most intelligent response to the addition of 10 more cards, it was definitely not a small change in the least.

SSJ_3_Son_Goku
11-22-2009, 05:17 PM
50 cards was needed allthough it only happend to stop 1 card Gaara but they fixed that by making cards to keep him going 50 cards all so made a lot of cards that never saw the light of day looked at Its a good thing 440 cards does not promote enough originality



This is a bad idea cause you wont ever go above 42 cards and he wanted 9k to not die in naruto if a game jumping 10 card on deck makes you quit then why were you playing to start out if one SMALL change makes you want to not play then quit

when I quit it was because of the worlds worst power creep ive seen in either game but i play now and the power creeps are making me mad but they will be balanced


I quit partially because of the power creep as well, but the 50 card thing was big to me, and it did effect me, cause I was good before it. But I think that if anything the size should be 40 to 50, that way we could throw in exactly what we needed.

Random-Man
11-23-2009, 11:31 AM
hey guyes lets go play yugioh!

JudeMurder
11-23-2009, 12:16 PM
I think 50 card decks is a good idea. Lets the player make the deck they want to the fullest. Much more possibilities.

Ninja Pebble
11-23-2009, 02:18 PM
hey guyes lets go play yugioh!
Wait 40-70 cards a deck, with majority of decks not over 41 and a $200+ card that comes out in every set?