So..... Set 5

[Hiro191]

Ok I know Fusion just came out, but when DF came out we already had a Announcement of Fusion, so I am wondering if anyone has heard anything. Or are we getting Set 5

[Rastas4Jesus09]

i would hope one is coming soon

[Trunks the Swordsman]

I was going to make this 5 days after Fusion's release as that's how long it took last time. I'm hoping there's another set. I'd like to see how the rest of the Fusions play out. Also waiting for a Trunks mat.

[swordmaster]

so far they have come out with a set for naruto and DBZ in a 3 month span. Set 5 for DBZ should be out in July.

[soviet prince]

hopefully it gets announced soon

[Gogeta]

Keep in mind of how long Destructive Fury was delayed.
Don't look at it as, X number of days after the last set was released that they announced the next.
Look at it like, this many weeks before the new set was to come out, they announced it. =P

[CaMeRoN]

Well.. The set should have been announced liek 3 months ago.. I'm worried..

[gamerpaul]

Ya stuff like this is bad for the game Bandai should announce something soon as people including me are already starting to get worried.

[Snow]

James and I talked recently via Private Message. He said he'll be talking more after the GAMA show in mid April. Look it up if you don't know what it is.

[gamerpaul]

James and I talked recently via Private Message. He said he'll be talking more after the GAMA show in mid April. Look it up if you don't know what it is.

Well that's good and now that I think about it I remember you saying that you talked to Texans about how previews would work next set so I guess there are no worries it's just this is the first time I recall not hearing about the upcoming set at all.

[swordmaster]

I am telling you guys june - july. we should start getting previews about mid april set 13 for naruto will be out next month so set 5 for DBZ will follow.

[soviet prince]

I would say mid may, and james also told me that he wont be doing anything until after the gama show in mid april

[Snow]

Was it really necessary to reiterate EXACTLY what I JUST said? Literally two hours ago you also didn't know what was going on. Perhaps you're just trying to name drop.

[wildfire194]

Set 5
Release date is 07/10/2009



wait, this just in. Date has been pushed back to 07/17/2009







wait again... Date pushed back again for 07/24/2009 do to how we like to mess with your heads lol! :D

[Zero]

So basically james should be announcing any info next week some time. seems fine.

[Hiro191]

well that really all depends on what will be said. I do hope with new CCG does not take away from the others.

[CardcaptorDustin]

DBCCG will be a year old :D

[theyellowdart]

DBCCG will be a year old :D

happy early birthday dbccg!!:)

[soviet prince]

Was it really necessary to reiterate EXACTLY what I JUST said? Literally two hours ago you also didn't know what was going on. Perhaps you're just trying to name drop.
I was conforming what you said. James also told me that a long time ago when I asked for an interview. Do you have some problem with that

[Snow]

Honestly, "a long time ago" makes absolutely no sense. You seemed to have no idea what was going on just a few hours earlier when you answered in this same thread. That's all.

[soviet prince]

Honestly, "a long time ago" makes absolutely no sense. You seemed to have no idea what was going on just a few hours earlier when you answered in this same thread. That's all.
explain to me how " I hope this get posted soon" means I don't know what going on. I think you need to take your eliteism down a notch or two.

[WolfwoodTheCross]

Both of you. Enough.

Staying on topic, the fact that they are waiting so long is kind of scary. I mean why wait till after Gama? I guess they could be waiting to see how Fusion sells, but its still a little fishy.

[Mike_Oretta]

I hope they make another kamehameha.

turn 4
chi cost : super super super
requirement: super saiyan
return target warrior an opponent controls to the bottom of the deck

[Princeofallsaiyans]

Hopefully set 5 will be the best set ever. I wanna see more super stuff and also I want to see Captain Yellow, Hasky, and Lieutenant Dark in this set for Red Ribbon!!! They also need to make a Mercenary Tao for Red Ribbon because he did work for them. I know Red Ribbon really don't need anymore, but I say GO RED RIBBON!!! HAHA

[CaMeRoN]

Honestly, "a long time ago" makes absolutely no sense. You seemed to have no idea what was going on just a few hours earlier when you answered in this same thread. That's all.

Chill man.. Be the bigger man.. Don't start random flaming arguments because SP decides to steal your thunder.. Its pretty obvious that he didn't know what was happening until you provided the information and everyone read that ^.^

Well honestly, this set should have been announced a long time ago.. James isn't even giving us concrete evidence that the set will be released.. Instead he's saying (the way i interpreted it) wait until after Gama to get more information.. That's not normal in any respect of the word.. Quite frankly, I don't think it bodes well for the game..

[BalanceBJJ]

Cam, that isn't going to help the whole "flaming argument" situation

[King_Cooler]

I heard rumors that set 5 will have ss3 gt goku, Kid buu, King Vegeta, and i think but i'm not sure Broly is a possible

[gamerpaul]

So when is gama over?

[Hiro191]

So when is gama over?

April 14-17, so by the 18th I HOPE we hear something

[theyellowdart]

April 14-17, so by the 18th I HOPE we hear something

Yeah, and I hope it is good news. :)

[scubadude]

April 14-17, so by the 18th I HOPE we hear something

Me too I wonder in todays podcast if anyone shed any light about the future of the game if it is in deed in trouble.

[soviet prince]

Was it really necessary to reiterate EXACTLY what I JUST said? Literally two hours ago you also didn't know what was going on. Perhaps you're just trying to name drop.

Honestly, "a long time ago" makes absolutely no sense. You seemed to have no idea what was going on just a few hours earlier when you answered in this same thread. That's all.

Chill man.. Be the bigger man.. Don't start random flaming arguments because SP decides to steal your thunder.. Its pretty obvious that he didn't know what was happening until you provided the information and everyone read that ^.^

Well honestly, this set should have been announced a long time ago.. James isn't even giving us concrete evidence that the set will be released.. Instead he's saying (the way i interpreted it) wait until after Gama to get more information.. That's not normal in any respect of the word.. Quite frankly, I don't think it bodes well for the game..

yep I am trying to steal his thunder, when all I did was conform what he said. I still like to know where you all getting that I dont know what I am talking about.:rolleyes:

The info snow posted first did not explain why nothing was posted, How hard is it to post info on the computer or even post that info will be posted after gama.

[WolfwoodTheCross]

yep I am trying to steal his thunder, when all I did was conform what he said. I still like to know where you all getting that I dont know what I am talking about.:rolleyes:

The info snow posted first did not explain why nothing was posted, How hard is it to post info on the computer or even post that info will be posted after gama.


Seriously! Enough! Cameron Don't instigate. Jesus people this isn't a thread to air your grievances with each other. Its bad enough that we have to worry about the existance of Set 5 here than to have to see people bickering and others fanning the fire.

Now I pray the moment James gets back set 5 is immidietly annouced, but I still worry about it quite a bit. I have this voice in the back of my head saying that Texans consessions about set 5 previews to Snow could simply be promises for something he knows doesn't exist.

[CaMeRoN]

It's very possible.. :( I mean Battle Spirits has the possibility of hitting it huge for umpteen reasons.. I don't see a good monetary reason for bandai to continue pumping out cards for this game..

P.S. I wasn't instigating but GJ Mini-Mod..

[Snow]

I specifically remember that Bandai playtesters were already testing for set 5 when we talked to James about set 4. I'm not saying that means 100% that it's guaranteed, but I feel that means more likely than not we'll see it. Also, bandai has already set up events through the summer, so I don't see set 4 being the end. Not saying it isn't coming, just saying I see them printing through set 5. I dunno though.

From a business standpoint, fixing a problem (like changing from 3 SR to 4 in a box) isn't done if a company is shutting down production of that product. Generally. Why fix what's already dead.

EDIT: Oh yeah and WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY back James said there was some card game aimed towards the younger generation coming out that was expected to be big. Battle Spirits could EASILY be that game, since it's aimed at children, both the manga and the anime. Naruto and DBCCG are BOTH games for a more adult generation. Hence the Sexy no Jutsu cards and what not. While children may in fact play these games, I feel it is marketed towards teens and young adults. In the same respects, I feel Battle Spirits will be marketed towards children.

[Zero]

Simple question, who the **** cares WHO james told the message to? Soviet in just about EVERY thread says "Confirmed to me by James/Andy in a PM". Snow also flaunts his conversations with james and andy from time to time. Why does it matter? Why must EVERYTHING be "Who has the biggest dick on the internet?". Congratulations guys, someone high up gave you a table scrap of info, I'm sure this is a big moment for you :rolleyes:

Seriously, you guys are being really childish over something completely stupid.

[Makeshift Ghost]

:Dlol at the whole situation.:D
:D
Set 5 will be nice, hopefully we get SSJ Gotenks/SSJ 3 Gotenks, Golden Ape, and Broly.

[soviet prince]

Simple question, who the **** cares WHO james told the message to? Soviet in just about EVERY thread says "Confirmed to me by James/Andy in a PM". Snow also flaunts his conversations with james and andy from time to time. Why does it matter? Why must EVERYTHING be "Who has the biggest dick on the internet?". Congratulations guys, someone high up gave you a table scrap of info, I'm sure this is a big moment for you :rolleyes:

Seriously, you guys are being really childish over something completely stupid.
well to be honest I never cared if I got the info out first or snow did, I just don't like to be called a liar, and just making something up to sound like I am a big deal becuse I am not. Snow posted the info first and I am perfectly fine with that. I am glad such info is being shared to the public, just don't say I am a liar becuse he told me the same info.

[Gogeta]

Simple question, who the **** cares WHO james told the message to? Soviet in just about EVERY thread says "Confirmed to me by James/Andy in a PM". Snow also flaunts his conversations with james and andy from time to time. Why does it matter? Why must EVERYTHING be "Who has the biggest dick on the internet?". Congratulations guys, someone high up gave you a table scrap of info, I'm sure this is a big moment for you :rolleyes:

Seriously, you guys are being really childish over something completely stupid.

lol
Zero just said what we all were thinking. =P

[swordmaster]

well, if Bandai dropped DBZ here is what will have happened. Naruto is going well and people are buying then DBZ comes out. Some people continue buying and suddenly the economy tanks. Those that can keep up the set do, but DBZ is cheaper to upkeep. So some people transfer to DBZ. Now Battle Spirits comes out, a game no one in the US has even heard about and suddenly DBZ is dropped. All of those players are not going to jump into Battle Spirits cause DBZ was a new game and it was just tanked. Some will go back to Naruto and accept the ridicule of Naruto players going "So you played that DBZ game? Thank god I didn't start that thing." Most people that did not have the money for both games will just leave bandai all together, they will go to one of the other big US games. Spend their money there and Battle Spirits will tank. Cause if people in the US did not leave Naruto to go to DBZ, then they will not leave naruto to go to Battle Spirits either. Personally, I am not eager to play Battle Spirits, cause it looks like magic. If I wanted to play magic then I would play magic.....

Anyways, this is the biggest reason why I think DBZ will be kept on, at least for a bit. When all is said and done it is a game that has done ok, and is picking up steam. Why drop it now?

[CaMeRoN]

Yeah I'm sure nobody will leave their current game with 0 Cash tournaments for a game with $1000 - $5000 cash tournaments.. That's definitely going to happen..

EDIT: Oh yeah and WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY back James said there was some card game aimed towards the younger generation coming out that was expected to be big. Battle Spirits could EASILY be that game, since it's aimed at children, both the manga and the anime. Naruto and DBCCG are BOTH games for a more adult generation. Hence the Sexy no Jutsu cards and what not. While children may in fact play these games, I feel it is marketed towards teens and young adults. In the same respects, I feel Battle Spirits will be marketed towards children.

What the hell made you feel the need to say that? Just to be a jerk? Cuz that's the way you came off to me..

FYI, DragonBall and Naruto are both Shounen Manga Series.. Shounen is a genre marketed towards young boys.. The DBCCG and Naruto CCG are based off of a manga for young boys.. Why would they target a teen generation when the series they are based on target a younger generation?

Also, why would Bandai offer such huge prizes to a younger generation? A younger generation probably can't even pay the entry fee.. Even if the game is marketed towards a younger generation, almost all CCGs are marketed towards them.. We are playing a Childrens Card Game.. No matter how you look at it that's what the facts are...

[SSJ Puar]

Main reason why most Naruto players didnt jump to DB is because it was basically the same game. Now with Battle Spirits, its a whole new game, and all my Naruto players are selling their DB cards to get into it.

[WolfwoodTheCross]

Main reason why most Naruto players didnt jump to DB is because it was basically the same game. Now with Battle Spirits, its a whole new game, and all my Naruto players are selling their DB cards to get into it.

honestly who cares what you think? you've "quit" this game like 3 times now. I'm worried about this game more than most, but even i think your crying wolf.

[swordmaster]

I don't see any naruto players around me quitting anything. the db players are just having fun playing DB.

[SSJ Puar]

honestly who cares what you think? you've "quit" this game like 3 times now. I'm worried about this game more than most, but even i think your crying wolf.

I quit the game once thanks. And if I quit, I cant keep up with the game? It seems like all you DBR people have ego's sky high, except BV, hes cool. You act like DB is the best CCG out there, well I got news for you, it isnt. You're opinion is no better than anyone elses. Let go of that big *** ego you have and meet us back down here on Earth...

[Baby Vegeta]

Both of you shut your traps. Puar you dont play anymore why are you trolling the DB forums? Wolf thats was rude just ignore him.

[WolfwoodTheCross]

I quit the game once thanks. And if I quit, I cant keep up with the game? It seems like all you DBR people have ego's sky high, except BV, hes cool. You act like DB is the best CCG out there, well I got news for you, it isnt. You're opinion is no better than anyone elses. Let go of that big *** ego you have and meet us back down here on Earth...

Look. I don't think DB is the best game in the world. Its just the one I enjoy playing. It is fun and has Characters i like. So obviously I'd enjoy it if it continues. If you quit just once then fine, but regardless you quit prematurely and for no reason that seems legitimate in my opinion, so excuse me for disqualifying your opinions on "the games imminent demise." As for my Ego, I may have one, but so do most, including you. I may have been rude with my post but I still think my opinion in it was valid.

Sorry for not ignoring this Baby V, but this I feel needed to be said.

[Gogeta]

The mods must be hibernating again, I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked yet.
All of these kiddies creating all sorts of drama.
I found a pic for all of you e-drama people in here:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g15/cocomuffincookie/YouFail.jpg
That's right, now hit the road!

[SSJ Puar]

Look. I don't think DB is the best game in the world. Its just the one I enjoy playing. It is fun and has Characters i like. So obviously I'd enjoy it if it continues. If you quit just once then fine, but regardless you quit prematurely and for no reason that seems legitimate in my opinion, so excuse me for disqualifying your opinions on "the games imminent demise." As for my Ego, I may have one, but so do most, including you. I may have been rude with my post but I still think my opinion in it was valid.

Sorry for not ignoring this Baby V, but this I feel needed to be said.

What I would love to know is how MY plyaers quitting makes you so mad.... It has nothing to do with you.

And I quit because the game was going for the worst and I didnt want worthless cards. And the fact our stores sunday employee always used YGO software and that we always had to have 10 people, which we could never have. So we never got prize support. Nice reason to quit IMO.

[swordmaster]

http://betterthaneveryone.com/images/PIDinanutshell_128C8/Nerds1.jpg

Gogeta I match your pic and raise you one of my own!!

http://www.stud.tu-ilmenau.de/%7Ehaku-in/pics/retarded.jpg

[Hiro191]

Seriously Guys? Come on. I was hoping to have a serious discussion on the possible future, or lack their of, of the DB CCG. Let's just hope GAMA works out in our favor. I also hope Bandai realizes just because its a huge hit in Japan, does not mean it will work in America. Example Duel Masters.

[scubadude]

Seriously Guys? Come on. I was hoping to have a serious discussion on the possible future, or lack their of, of the DB CCG. Let's just hope GAMA works out in our favor. I also hope Bandai realizes just because its a huge hit in Japan, does not mean it will work in America. Example Duel Masters.

Exactly I do think this game has potential and I hope it gets more of a chance too shine and it doesn't get the dual masters treatment.

[kingjwon06]

I think we will be good through set 5. When DBR interviewed James the first time, he told us that they had already planned through set 5. I also dont think it would make much sense to kill a game right before convention season, especially since there are a lot of events that feature Dragonball. To me they would be stepping on their own feet. I think that set 6 is what we should be worried about. Only time will tell.

[CaMeRoN]

That sounds about right Jawaan :)

I wonder if Bandai is worried that they won't get enough players at the conventions to warrant there being tournaments..

[majingogeta344]

I don't know if they could've but Bandai should've done a DB movie promo. It would work both ways: 1) Players would go see the movie to get it. 2) People who saw the movie would be interested in playing DB.

That's how they could've increased the player base. If it doesn't improve soon, then it will probably die. :(

[Hiro191]

Exactly I do think this game has potential and I hope it gets more of a chance too shine and it doesn't get the dual masters treatment.

I agree I liked Duel Masters, but the TV shows killed it. It was toned down A LOT from Japan, and turned into a Kiddie show for Cartoon Network. If they kept the content and made it like Naruto, then it might of been bigger. Kind a like One Piece, but that is a different story, lol.

[CaMeRoN]

lmao yeah.. One piece is on a whole another level of butchery.. :( at least Funimation is doing the series proud..

[scubadude]

lmao yeah.. One piece is on a whole another level of butchery.. :( at least Funimation is doing the series proud..

LOL ya at least DB was done well and its a main reason we have a player base from a expired anime . But lets hope the past of it is enough too keep the game going .

[paulsmits3950]

After reading all the arguments and stuff

I only collected a few information and a few questions.

1) What is Gama?
2) Will set 5 come out?

1) The Naruto players does not really concern the Dragon Ball players really unless they play both. If not then it does not really matter.

2) Battle Spirits is a whole different thing Bandai is experimenting. I don't if it is good or not but it is not a card game its more like electronic type of thing.

Snow I remember when you asked about set 4 and set four was at works. Set 5 should be done and when you and James on the last interview, James seems to be hiding uncertain about things.

To conclude my post is set 5 coming out?

[Hiro191]

1. GAMA is a retail trade show so companies can show off what they are going to put out and their future plans

2. We don't know ether way. By this time last set we had info on Fusion, which is the reason I started this thread. James has stated he will tell us more AFTER GAMA

[WolfwoodTheCross]

Yeah GAMA seems to be interfeering with almost everything bandai normally does during a week. No rullings, no previews, no statements. ITs like we're in the dead zone

[paulsmits3950]

Thank you Hiro191 and Wolfwood for the explanation.

[gamerpaul]

I am just concerned that Texans or Mr. Goku or somebody hasn't cofirmed at least that there will be a set 5. I am sure they know if there will be or not so just kinda wondering why they wouldn't come in here and at least say there is one.

[soviet prince]

well when was the last time we even seen Mr.shine post

[Zero]

I also hope Bandai realizes just because its a huge hit in Japan, does not mean it will work in America. Example Duel Masters.

Duel masters worked in America, until WotC decided to completely pull the plug on organized play, and then eventually the game itself. Despite the game being dead in the US, Duel master still has a big community on a couple fan sites.

I see battle spirits doing well, especially since Bandai is jumping in with amazing OP immediately.

[theyellowdart]

Yeah GAMA seems to be interfeering with almost everything bandai normally does during a week. No rullings, no previews, no statements. ITs like we're in the dead zone

Yeah. I feel like garlic jr...:p

[paulsmits3950]

Well GAMA over right? So what is the news?

[Snow]

I've heard that James didn't say anything about DBCCG at all at GAMA, while Naruto and Battle Spirits were discussed in great detail. Anyone able to confirm this?

[Rastas4Jesus09]

I've heard that James didn't say anything about DBCCG at all at GAMA, while Naruto and Battle Spirits were discussed in great detail. Anyone able to confirm this?

first, no more starters or mass product, then no new info on the next set when we have usually known by this time, now the absence of even being spoken about at a large game convention, all coinciding with a new tcg by bandai.................:(

[CaMeRoN]

I've heard that James didn't say anything about DBCCG at all at GAMA, while Naruto and Battle Spirits were discussed in great detail. Anyone able to confirm this?

I can't fully confirm it since I wasn't there. However, that is what Puar told me and he attended. Nevermind. I was confused lol..

[Snow]

I can't fully confirm it since I wasn't there. However, that is what Puar told me and he attended. Nevermind. I was confused lol..

Wait... now I'm confused.

[majingogeta344]

I can't fully confirm it since I wasn't there. However, that is what Puar told me and he attended. Nevermind. I was confused lol..

Puar as in SSJ Puar/Mera Mera? I thought he was at the GA Jonin????? :confused: Now I'm confused too.

[SSJ Puar]

MG344 is right, I wasnt at GAMA, Cam was just confused. I was at GA Jonin hgetting rich and eating Pizza :D.

MG344, did you sell naything to TaT?

[CaMeRoN]

Soviet just confirmed that James posted some prize info for crossover tournaments at conventions.. So I guess the game is continuing :)

[soviet prince]

yh it would be a slap to the face if they cancel it and lead us on like that

[majingogeta344]

MG344 is right, I wasnt at GAMA, Cam was just confused. I was at GA Jonin hgetting rich and eating Pizza :D.

MG344, did you sell naything to TaT?

No I didn't really like their prices.

[SSJ Puar]

No I didn't really like their prices.

Yeah they were dealer prices. I ended up selling them my Blue/Artifact MtG deck, my Evil Tribe deck, and a few supers for $350. Did you see the guy carrying all that bleach starters? That was me, I just loved them discounts. Then spent $30 at Walmart on them Anniversary packs cause the art is so nice.

[gamerpaul]

Thank god I just spent 40 on singles and I'm even thinking of picking up Naruto again at some point but if bandai screwed us over like that I would never have anything to do with one of their card games again.

[majingogeta344]

Yeah they were dealer prices. I ended up selling them my Blue/Artifact MtG deck, my Evil Tribe deck, and a few supers for $350. Did you see the guy carrying all that bleach starters? That was me, I just loved them discounts. Then spent $30 at Walmart on them Anniversary packs cause the art is so nice.

I did see the Bleach starters, but not you. There were so many, you couldn't miss them. :D

[Snow]

Thank god I just spent 40 on singles and I'm even thinking of picking up Naruto again at some point but if bandai screwed us over like that I would never have anything to do with one of their card games again.

Quoted for the truth.

[CaMeRoN]

lol well guys.. Bandai made this game so that they can make money.. If they aren't making any money and are actually losing money by producing it then they will definitely stop making it.. Can you really blame them for that? o.O They are just a company trying to make a CCG that people will buy.. There are lots of companies that made failed games and stopped making them once they started losing money while producing them..

Don't get me wrong though.. It's lame that the game would die.. But I just think its stupid to go out and blame the company who really wanted the game to succeed.. Facts of the matter are that if they are losing money by producing the game then they have to stop.. They can't run a game that is losing money because they can't explain the validity of that to their share holders and higher ups..

Bandai wouldn't stop making the game just to spite everyone.. They would stop making it because they can no longer make any feasible gains from continuing the game..

Even if the game dies guys.. you still have your cards to play.. You will always have those cards.. They were made with you in mind.. They were made for you to buy and have fun playing with them.. Just becaues there are no tournaments left doesn't mean you can't preserve the fun you had and will have continuing to play with them the way theyh were intended..

Whenever James says, "Thanks for supporting db".. He means that.. The playtesters, the designers, the OP people, etc.. all work really hard to make the game happen.. When they see a game being played and purchased it makes them happy becaues htey know their hard work is making someone else happy.. They know that someone is benefiting from their hard work.. Bandai isn't out to get you.. They are doing their best with the ressources given to them to make the game that you enjoy playing and purchasing succeed.. If the game dies.. Know that Bandai went down fighting.. They didn't stop makin the game to spite anyone.. They tried their best to continue creating the game so that you could enjoy the work they put out.. So don't hold a grudge against the company when a game dies and know that they were trying their hardest to keep a game afloat.. so that everyone oculd enjoy just one more set and that they could get the feeling of satisfaction that they were able to provide you with that set..

[big mustard]

Cameron, I agree with everything you said except for this:
Even if the game dies guys.. you still have your cards to play.. You will always have those cards.. They were made with you in mind.. They were made for you to buy and have fun playing with them.. Just becaues there are no tournaments left doesn't mean you can't preserve the fun you had and will have continuing to play with them the way theyh were intended..

Many are posting threats toward Bandai about if they end the game because its there way of expressing how much they like the game and don't want it to end. Hopefully Bandai decides to make one more set or two before making a decision. I remember Naruto starting off very slow before it spiked in popularity.

[SSJ Puar]

I did see the Bleach starters, but not you. There were so many, you couldn't miss them. :D

I was wearing red gym shorts and a black hoody that had ALOT of other colors on it lol. And for a while before it finally started I had on a Slipknot hat. And that goth kid whos Deidara's were stolen was from my store, and the kid with the Millitachis. I even bought a Digimon starter just because it was so cheap and I wanted the Digidestined Digimon lol.

[AlexStoryteller]

lol well guys.. Bandai made this game so that they can make money.. If they aren't making any money and are actually losing money by producing it then they will definitely stop making it.. Can you really blame them for that? o.O They are just a company trying to make a CCG that people will buy.. There are lots of companies that made failed games and stopped making them once they started losing money while producing them..

Bandai wouldn't stop making the game just to spite everyone.. They would
stop making it because they can no longer make any feasible gains from continuing the game. They were made with you in mind.. They were made for you to buy and have fun playing with them the game happen.. isn't out to get you.. If the game dies.. Know that Bandai went down fighting.. They didn't stop makin the game to spite anyone.. They tried their best to continue creating the game so that you could enjoy the work they put out.. So don't hold a grudge against the company when a game dies and know that they were trying their hardest to keep a game afloat.. so that everyone oculd enjoy just one more set and that they could get the feeling of satisfaction that they were able to provide you with that set.. I agree with everything you say.. Except in the case of score's z relaunch. they can burn >.>

[Toko Tamer]

I really hate to be a downer guys, but things aren't looking too well. Having been a player of plenty of now deceased Bandai games in the past (Zatch Bell, One Piece, Digimon, Gundam War, and Teen Titans), I'd have to say the typical Bandai signs of a pulled plug are now starting to build up.

I'm crossing my fingers it isn't so though, I truely love this game and really hope it continues on. If the game does indeed die, at the very least I hope Bandai can continue OP in the way of the Naruto vs. Dragon Ball tournaments. That would be an excellent show of appreciation.

[Snow]

Can anyone show proof that the game has done terribly sales wise? without figures, saying "They aren't doing well" is just talk.

Unless you can show comparative worth from Bandai's Naruto sales to Bandai's Dragonball sales that are more than a 30% difference, very few, if any, companies would shut down production of a new product.

Additionally, why are we seeing new wishes if we aren't continuing the game? Printing those makes no sense.

Most likely to me, Bandai is having licensing problems, especially since DB is getting revived in Japan.

[CaMeRoN]

Can anyone show proof that the game has done terribly sales wise? without figures, saying "They aren't doing well" is just talk.

The only proof we have is this;

Bandai stopped making Starter Decks when they wanted to keep doing them because Wal-Mart and Target refused to carry them. The reason Wal-mart and Target refused to carry them a second time was because the first time they didn't sell very well.

Bandai hasn't announced that they've had a sellout set since Set 1.

We dont' have figures but we can make a fair assumption based on those two things. The only people who know the exact sales are people who are affiliated with Bandai in some way. Those people aren't at liberty to discuss the financial stability of the game.

[Toko Tamer]

Can anyone show proof that the game has done terribly sales wise? without figures, saying "They aren't doing well" is just talk.
Well it isn't hard numbers, but Dragon Ball failed to make the recent ICv2 list for this past winter.



Top 5 CCGs Over-all

1. Bakugan (Spin Master)

2. Pokemon (Pokemon USA)

3. Yu-Gi-Oh! (Konami Digital Entertainment)

4. Magic: The Gathering (Wizards of the Coast)

5. World of Warcraft (Upper Deck)


Top 5 Mass CCGs

1. Bakugan (Spin Master)

2. Pokemon (Pokemon USA)

3. Yu-Gi-Oh! (Konami Digital Entertainment)

4. Magic: The Gathering (Wizards of the Coast)

5. Chaotic (Chaotic USA)


Top 10 Hobby Channel CCGs

1. Magic: The Gathering (Wizards of the Coast)

2. Yu-Gi-Oh! (Konami Digital Entertainment)

3. World of Warcraft (Upper Deck)

4. Pokemon (Pokemon USA)

5. Legends of the Five Rings (Alderac Entertainment)

6. Naruto (Bandai America)

7. Epic (Epic)

8. UFS (Fantasy Flight Games)

9. Call of Cthulhu (Fantasy Flight Games)

10. Bleach (Score Entertainment)

[Mike_Oretta]

All they have to do is make a set called "Legends" and create broken cards. That will make people want to play the game.

example if there was a turn 5 goku that let you put into play a warrior with a turn cost of 4 or less from your discard into play on his team by paying 2 super chi that would be great.

Bandai is no stranger to broken cards. It seems they only try to think for good effects for naruto. I wish dragonball could do half of what naruto can do. That would boost sales.

[Gogeta]

Know that Bandai went down fighting..

This is another thing that can't be proved right now.
If the game does die, a good chunk of it has to do with Bandai not giving it their all.

But everyone needs to quit complaining about this.
Either quit the game and complain somewhere else or keep playing and quit your QQing.

[Trunks the Swordsman]

All they have to do is make a set called "Legends" and create broken cards. That will make people want to play the game.

example if there was a turn 5 goku that let you put into play a warrior with a turn cost of 4 or less from your discard into play on his team by paying 2 super chi that would be great.

Bandai is no stranger to broken cards. It seems they only try to think for good effects for naruto. I wish dragonball could do half of what naruto can do. That would boost sales.

I don't really agree with that. Naruto is supposed to that way. Dragonball is supposed to be a better version of Naruto which is why there are little or no broken cards. As far as I know Bandai has cleared itself of the mistakes it has made with Naruto.

I think their worst move with this game besides the mass amount of misprints was leaving Four Witches as is. People say it's no threat but we all know what the text should really be...

I'm happy with the way Dragonball has been so far. This set was a bit of a disappointment but sets 1-3 were a joy to play with.

[gamerpaul]

lol well guys.. Bandai made this game so that they can make money.. If they aren't making any money and are actually losing money by producing it then they will definitely stop making it.. Can you really blame them for that? o.O They are just a company trying to make a CCG that people will buy.. There are lots of companies that made failed games and stopped making them once they started losing money while producing them..

Don't get me wrong though.. It's lame that the game would die.. But I just think its stupid to go out and blame the company who really wanted the game to succeed.. Facts of the matter are that if they are losing money by producing the game then they have to stop.. They can't run a game that is losing money because they can't explain the validity of that to their share holders and higher ups..

Bandai wouldn't stop making the game just to spite everyone.. They would stop making it because they can no longer make any feasible gains from continuing the game..

Even if the game dies guys.. you still have your cards to play.. You will always have those cards.. They were made with you in mind.. They were made for you to buy and have fun playing with them.. Just becaues there are no tournaments left doesn't mean you can't preserve the fun you had and will have continuing to play with them the way theyh were intended..

Whenever James says, "Thanks for supporting db".. He means that.. The playtesters, the designers, the OP people, etc.. all work really hard to make the game happen.. When they see a game being played and purchased it makes them happy becaues htey know their hard work is making someone else happy.. They know that someone is benefiting from their hard work.. Bandai isn't out to get you.. They are doing their best with the ressources given to them to make the game that you enjoy playing and purchasing succeed.. If the game dies.. Know that Bandai went down fighting.. They didn't stop makin the game to spite anyone.. They tried their best to continue creating the game so that you could enjoy the work they put out.. So don't hold a grudge against the company when a game dies and know that they were trying their hardest to keep a game afloat.. so that everyone oculd enjoy just one more set and that they could get the feeling of satisfaction that they were able to provide you with that set..

I am not saying it's their fault if the game dies or whatever I am just saying waiting for everyone to buy set 4 knowing that there is no set 5 is bull**** obviously they would want to do that to recoup some of their losses but they would lose me as a customer if this were the case.

[CaMeRoN]

I am not saying it's their fault if the game dies or whatever I am just saying waiting for everyone to buy set 4 knowing that there is no set 5 is bull**** obviously they would want to do that to recoup some of their losses but they would lose me as a customer if this were the case.

When Bandai releases a set, they go into that set with reasonable expectations of how it should sell.. Lets say that set doesn't sell as well as they thought.. They now have the option of continuing the game or thinking that the game has ridden its course and they better get out before they lose more money.. Bcuz if they continue making the gam ethey might lose even more money by making set 5.. Bandai isn't screwing you to recoup their losses.. They have to make predictions into the future as to whether the next set is worth making.. If it isn't then they won't make it..

[Snow]

Well it isn't hard numbers, but Dragon Ball failed to make the recent ICv2 list for this past winter.

This past winter the card game was out for, at most, 6 or 7 months.

[gamerpaul]

When Bandai releases a set, they go into that set with reasonable expectations of how it should sell.. Lets say that set doesn't sell as well as they thought.. They now have the option of continuing the game or thinking that the game has ridden its course and they better get out before they lose more money.. Bcuz if they continue making the gam ethey might lose even more money by making set 5.. Bandai isn't screwing you to recoup their losses.. They have to make predictions into the future as to whether the next set is worth making.. If it isn't then they won't make it..

No like Snow has said before due to the way they produce their cards set 5 would already be in production overseas at this point so basically if they weren't planning on releasing a set 5 they would know by the time set 4 hits the stores.

[soviet prince]

No like Snow has said before due to the way they produce their cards set 5 would already be in production overseas at this point so basically if they weren't planning on releasing a set 5 they would know by the time set 4 hits the stores.
this is an american only game there is no game overseas

[gamerpaul]

this is an american only game there is no game overseas

but production of the game is done in asia James even said this in an earlier podcast when the question of the super rare trick came up. I am just wondering why James hasn't given us some info on the next tourney kits and set 5 yet.

[soviet prince]

Kim just said that next kit goes out next week

[gamerpaul]

Kim just said that next kit goes out next week

well that's good but I meant more like the contents of the kits like James usually posts.

[Makeshift Ghost]

I think they will make a set 5 for the conventions and then after that, they will decide if to make a Set 6. Expect to see proably more fusion warriors and GT stuff.

[Anaytsu711]

all i know is that they had BETTER make another set, because naruto cant compare to db in the least!:mad: this is usually the part where ppl put imo, but screw that it is most def a fact. here is the proof. naruto challenges goku, if goku yawns from boredom narutos eardrum is now shattered, if goku coughs, or sneezes, or exhales, goku looks down and see's 2 feet with no body, and is forced to ask himself "where did naruto go?" as he nonchalantly scratches his head in confusion. if naruto tries to **** on him like he did kiba, goku would pull down his pants and rip 1 big enough to make the earth say "wtf was that, hey moon did you hear that frog!?" and goku looks down to see those two feet again. and then naruto goes kyubbi 9 tails, and goku is actually forced to flick his face....hey theres those 2 feet again! then naruto goes sage mode, you all know what comes next right?......2 feet. but congratulations naruto, goku has a small scratch on his arm....but wait its not bleeding....gtfo naruto, goku didnt even use kaioken on your sorry ***. but dont get me wrong i love the naruto anime and all but thats just what would happen. and to those who have seen the naruto shippuden movie, when naruto died in the beggining, i think he preffered that death over any of the ones goku displayed.

[Anaytsu711]

sorry that post was too long i wanted to extend it, but if you want card game proof, does naruto have a card that gains +1/+0 for every chi/chakra card you have?? ummmm no. and lol that card is goku anyway.

[SSJ Puar]

all i know is that they had BETTER make another set, because naruto cant compare to db in the least!:mad: this is usually the part where ppl put imo, but screw that it is most def a fact. here is the proof. naruto challenges goku, if goku yawns from boredom narutos eardrum is now shattered, if goku coughs, or sneezes, or exhales, goku looks down and see's 2 feet with no body, and is forced to ask himself "where did naruto go?" as he nonchalantly scratches his head in confusion. if naruto tries to **** on him like he did kiba, goku would pull down his pants and rip 1 big enough to make the earth say "wtf was that, hey moon did you hear that frog!?" and goku looks down to see those two feet again. and then naruto goes kyubbi 9 tails, and goku is actually forced to flick his face....hey theres those 2 feet again! then naruto goes sage mode, you all know what comes next right?......2 feet. but congratulations naruto, goku has a small scratch on his arm....but wait its not bleeding....gtfo naruto, goku didnt even use kaioken on your sorry ***. but dont get me wrong i love the naruto anime and all but thats just what would happen. and to those who have seen the naruto shippuden movie, when naruto died in the beggining, i think he preffered that death over any of the ones goku displayed.

They are two completely different kinds of anime, so you cant rely on this statement =/.

Yay for +1/+0 that costs what? 3 super chi to get out, when against Naruto, he wouldnt be on the field long enough for him to do anything useful.

[Anaytsu711]

They are two completely different kinds of anime, so you cant rely on this statement =/.


Yay for +1/+0 that costs what? 3 super chi to get out, when against Naruto, he wouldnt be on the field long enough for him to do anything useful.that was just a joke but i kno lol.

how so? he is auto bigger than alot of the naruto ninjas, and you usually have some chi unless your playing a deck that eats you chi alot.

[gamerpaul]

all i know is that they had BETTER make another set, because naruto cant compare to db in the least!:mad: this is usually the part where ppl put imo, but screw that it is most def a fact. here is the proof. naruto challenges goku, if goku yawns from boredom narutos eardrum is now shattered, if goku coughs, or sneezes, or exhales, goku looks down and see's 2 feet with no body, and is forced to ask himself "where did naruto go?" as he nonchalantly scratches his head in confusion. if naruto tries to **** on him like he did kiba, goku would pull down his pants and rip 1 big enough to make the earth say "wtf was that, hey moon did you hear that frog!?" and goku looks down to see those two feet again. and then naruto goes kyubbi 9 tails, and goku is actually forced to flick his face....hey theres those 2 feet again! then naruto goes sage mode, you all know what comes next right?......2 feet. but congratulations naruto, goku has a small scratch on his arm....but wait its not bleeding....gtfo naruto, goku didnt even use kaioken on your sorry ***. but dont get me wrong i love the naruto anime and all but thats just what would happen. and to those who have seen the naruto shippuden movie, when naruto died in the beggining, i think he preffered that death over any of the ones goku displayed.

honestly this is a ****ing retarded *** statement I thought you were going to compare the two card games and say that db is more balanced but you compared the strength of the characters in the anime wtf I guess that means dragonball should just be the #1 everything because the characters are more powerful but if that were the case every anime would just make their characters stronger than the last.

[SSJ Puar]

this was just a joke but i kno lol.

how so? he is auto bigger than alot of the naruto ninjas, and you usually have some chi unless your playing a deck that eats you chi alot.

Theirs so much damage justsu in naruto sets right now, but it would depend what all gets banned -_-.

[Anaytsu711]

honestly this is a ****ing retarded *** statement I thought you were going to compare the two card games and say that db is more balanced but you compared the strength of the characters in the anime wtf I guess that means dragonball should just be the #1 everything because the characters are more powerful but if that were the case every anime would just make their characters stronger than the last.

dude you need to calm yourself down a little bit, it was a joke, i was comparing the two animes strengths in THAT post but if you would have waited a sec, you could have seen that i did make a comparison of the actual card games in my next post.

[Anaytsu711]

Theirs so much damage justsu in naruto sets right now, but it would depend what all gets banned -_-.

i guess so, but we have damage jutsu too, and some negation jutsu, but regardless i think we have alot better cards for us only being at set 4 right now, when they are at set 13 i believe, going into 14.

[CaMeRoN]

i guess so, but we have damage jutsu too, and some negation jutsu, but regardless i think we have alot better cards for us only being at set 4 right now, when they are at set 13 i believe, going into 14.

8 Triagrams beats every card we have and that was released in set 1 of naruto..

[gamerpaul]

dude you need to calm yourself down a little bit, it was a joke, i was comparing the two animes strengths in THAT post but if you would have waited a sec, you could have seen that i did make a comparison of the actual card games in my next post.

ya but even that card game comparison was dumb because you don't know the kind of powerful cards Naruto has and I guess I was kinda harsh but your post was really really stupid.

[Anaytsu711]

ya but even that card game comparison was dumb because you don't know the kind of powerful cards Naruto has and I guess I was kinda harsh but your post was really really stupid.

it was a joke, it was supposed to be stupid lol. i know what naruto has, i played up until the set b4 a new chronicle. but still i think we have some amazing cards.

[Anaytsu711]

8 Triagrams beats every card we have and that was released in set 1 of naruto..

aha i chain expanding vibrations, or unexpected outcome...negated! but even though its kinda going against my logic, 8 trigrams cant be used on goku, or any other warrior, because it targets "ninjas" not "warriors" lol, sry i just had to be a smartass.

[Makeshift Ghost]

warriors=ninjas

[Anaytsu711]

warriors=ninjas

yea, but im just saying that if the games played eachother there would have to be some clarification among that basis.

[Ninja Pebble]

aha i chain expanding vibrations, or unexpected outcome...negated! but even though its kinda going against my logic, 8 trigrams cant be used on goku, or any other warrior, because it targets "ninjas" not "warriors" lol, sry i just had to be a smartass.

Have you seen any of the crossover rules? DBZ is a better anime/manga then Naruto imo, but DBZccg is getting babied in crossover rules, or else we would get stomped 100% of the time. I played Naruto still set 9-10 and I shifted to DBZ since it's a much better anime and more balanced then Naruto.

[Anaytsu711]

i quit naruto, sold my cards, and shifted to db cuz its better. any set now bandai is gay-ly, most likely going to give thrash or somthing like it to naruto though.

[Toko Tamer]

This past winter the card game was out for, at most, 6 or 7 months.

I'm not so sure, I'd say that's a decent amount of time for a game to pick up some steam. I can imagine plenty of Naruto players already had switched, or at least picked up DB as well by this point.

Dragon Ball had almost 3 sets by this time. I was rather shocked it didn't make the list. And even more shocked Bleach still managed to pull number 10 in the hobby channel over Dragon Ball with Bandai's amazing support for hobby stores. I'd say something's wrong.

[Hiro191]

Well my stomach is heavy with worry over the future of the game.

I don't think Bandai is giving DB the attention for its potential. I was even told by James last year that DB was forced on them by the Toy department to go with the new line of Toys. That is the reason the game came to life. So being 'forced' to do the game was not the best way to start things up. Although at the same time James was happy with the amount of interest.

they also should of tried to capitalize on the unfortunate death of Bleach CCG.

[SSJ_3_Son_Goku]

I don't see any naruto players around me quitting anything. the db players are just having fun playing DB.

amen 2 dat. we will get word of set 5 when THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THIS GAME SEE IT FIT. He is right, why cant people just play 4 fun, why u gotta get all serious. I quit Naruto 4 the better game. Dragon Ball. For many reasons, in my area and quite a few other areas, Naruto is declining, due 2 the same deck meta, and the outragous price of a good deck. Dragon Ball is so much better, and we will hear about set 5 when it they want us to. Im sure that the game isnt over yet. Also, i agree with the guy who said Bandai made this game with what they learned from Naruto. They did. Anyone could tell. In Naruto, we got one of THE MOST BROKEN cards ever released in the 1st set, 8 trigrams. Bandai did not want Dragon Ball 2 be dominated like Narutos meta always is and always was. SS3 Goku is very good, and I have been beat down by him many times, but he has a substantial cost to pay, and I also have beat him many times because of that cost. In Naruto, in Over 9k meta, it was a race 2 see who dropped Garra first. Who ever did, the reply from the other player was ''****, I Scoop.''. Bandai did not want db to be that way, and its not. Thank Jebus for that.

[Snow]

I'm not so sure, I'd say that's a decent amount of time for a game to pick up some steam. I can imagine plenty of Naruto players already had switched, or at least picked up DB as well by this point.

Dragon Ball had almost 3 sets by this time. I was rather shocked it didn't make the list. And even more shocked Bleach still managed to pull number 10 in the hobby channel over Dragon Ball with Bandai's amazing support for hobby stores. I'd say something's wrong.

No. 6-7 months is only two sets. Speaking strictly from working at a cardgame store for the last 5 years, I've never, NEVER see a card game actually take off pre set 5.

[gamerpaul]

No. 6-7 months is only two sets. Speaking strictly from working at a cardgame store for the last 5 years, I've never, NEVER see a card game actually take off pre set 5.

Ya I didn't start going to yugi tourneys until like set 4-5

[scubadude]

Well I played yugioh from the beggining and we had like 30 people every week from sets 1-7 until i quit . I know they probally get more now but then again that was when there were so few games. Now if you make it too a set 5 your doing something right .

[gamerpaul]

Well I played yugioh from the beggining and we had like 30 people every week from sets 1-7 until i quit . I know they probally get more now but then again that was when there were so few games. Now if you make it too a set 5 your doing something right .

I played from set 2 but tourneys didn't start up in my area until the 4th set came out.

[soviet prince]

yeah it's also to bad I dont live closer, or I would play every week. :(

[scubadude]

I played from set 2 but tourneys didn't start up in my area until the 4th set came out.

Well I guess it different down here but it seems in my area we get tournaments going fairly quick .

[Kurt]

No. 6-7 months is only two sets. Speaking strictly from working at a cardgame store for the last 5 years, I've never, NEVER see a card game actually take off pre set 5.
See Dragon Ball Z CCG. =)

[WolfwoodTheCross]

See Dragon Ball Z CCG. =)

Took off Set 3 give or take. Though the way the level 4 promos in that game were distributed helped alot at the beginning. YGO also took off pre set 5.

[Toko Tamer]

No. 6-7 months is only two sets. Speaking strictly from working at a cardgame store for the last 5 years, I've never, NEVER see a card game actually take off pre set 5.

You misunderstood me a bit, the only reason I said maybe three sets was because I was unsure if ICv2 was including January for their winter numbers, and set 3 was out on the 30th. I'm pretty sure the list was was only through the end of 2008 though, so Dragon Ball had two sets, yeah.

That's interesting Snow, because that's pretty much the exact opposite of how things typically go at my local shop. The way I've always observed it was, new games will pick up steam immediately or by set 2, and then either go steady for a long time or crash and burn around set 4 or 5.

[CaMeRoN]

That's what I've seen as well.. Most games don't go past sets 4 and 5..

[theyellowdart]

That's what I've seen as well.. Most games don't go past sets 4 and 5..

yeah. although, i think the dbccg is a well-made and designed game, so it does have a chance of continuing. i hope it does. :)

[paulsmits3950]

I hope Dragon Ball lives on since Japan released Dragon Ball Kai.

But set 5 should be annouced by now if not the beginning of next month. I hope they do so the players are not so worried.

Again I remember when Juwan asked James about set 5 in DBR, James said there were no designs and any thing about it at this time. This is pretty weird because before Set 3 came out Set 4 is being made and play tested but set 5 have nothing in progress at the moment. Seems kind of weird.

Also its ashame they never did a tournament or update the list for Naruto vs Dragon Ball. I hope DB CCG lives on.

[Snow]

Mr. Goku also deliberately avoided my question on Q&A about set 5 so...

[AlexStoryteller]

8 Triagrams beats every card we have and that was released in set 1 of naruto..

LOL dotc is broken compared to 8 trigrams.

[Piccolo'sDad]

LOL dotc is broken compared to 8 trigrams.

Not so much. Techniques in DB usually get balanced by their Turn cost, where in Naruto they were balanced by their cost and requirement.

Trigrams will usually be seen as early as Turn 4, same with DotC.

[BalanceBJJ]

Mr. Goku also deliberately avoided my question on Q&A about set 5 so...

To be fair, that's probably not something he can answer

[paulsmits3950]

LOL dotc is broken compared to 8 trigrams.

I dunno what to say. 8 Trigram is a bounce card and removal. DOTC is only pushing the Warrior to standby. 8 Trigram is a removal and to be move broken, it goes to the top of the deck to mess up your draw. I rather get hit with DOTC than 8 Trigram against Final Form Frieza or SS3 Goku. Plus trigram removes their Growth coins and Dragon ball coins.

Removal over Damage over stand-by over pump or decrease.

[paulsmits3950]

Mr. Goku also deliberately avoided my question on Q&A about set 5 so...

Thanks for the info Snow.

[Saerit]

Yup... called it.

[soviet prince]

called what, not offical to the fish jumps

anyway pmed texan about when set 5 will be announced he said soon thats all he can say.

[Snow]

called what, not offical to the fish jumps

anyway pmed texan about when set 5 will be announced he said soon thats all he can say.

Let's just hope he's right.

[swordmaster]

Let's just hope he's right.

I am sure that there is little reason not to issue the statement if the game was going down. Even if they were trying to sponge up every last ounce of our money they could their lack of information has kept me from buying more of the set than I already have. Personally, even from a business standpoint there would be little reason to keep people in the dark this long, while coming out with new cards for the game if the game was folding. Just does not make sense. I think it just got moved back due to BS. Not really worried at all.