why 4 witches should be banned or errated

[NMFM513]

so i was playing my unique/villain deck in our local. it was the last match and it was for 1st. the game count was 1-1. my opponent had a goku ss3 with the 7/4 0/4 piccolo behind him. my team was (in order) super garlic jr., andriod 19, and majin buu. and i had violet and scr out on my field. i made buu red ribbon and attacked. he blocks of course. i have 2 evil wave explosion, 3 4 witches in hand. 3 villain chi and 2 unique. i played two e.v.e. on buu and he has 10 support. then played my 4 witches back to back making him a 80 support warrior!! i stole his dragonball and thrashed him. he did scoop and i got the win with a team power of 91, no biggie on turn 7 for me. beware...
gg

[Zero]

so i was playing my unique/villain deck in our local. it was the last match and it was for 1st. the game count was 1-1. my opponent had a goku ss3 with the 7/4 0/4 piccolo behind him. my team was (in order) super garlic jr., andriod 19, and majin buu. and i had violet and scr out on my field. i made buu red ribbon and attacked. he blocks of course. i have 2 evil wave explosion, 3 4 witches in hand. 3 villain chi and 2 unique. i played two e.v.e. on buu and he has 10 support. then played my 4 witches back to back making him a 80 support warrior!! i stole his dragonball and thrashed him. he did scoop and i got the win with a team power of 91, no biggie on turn 7 for me. beware...
gg

So basically, you think 4 witches should be banned or erratad because you OVed a team with 5 cards... and made awful misplays.

Why did you even play the second 4 witches, he was at 20 support with just the first one, making your team a 30 -_-

People need to stop complaining about 4 witches, the technique is good, but its not even close to broken :\

[Ninja Pebble]

so i was playing my unique/villain deck in our local. it was the last match and it was for 1st. the game count was 1-1. my opponent had a goku ss3 with the 7/4 0/4 piccolo behind him. my team was (in order) super garlic jr., andriod 19, and majin buu. and i had violet and scr out on my field. i made buu red ribbon and attacked. he blocks of course. i have 2 evil wave explosion, 3 4 witches in hand. 3 villain chi and 2 unique. i played two e.v.e. on buu and he has 10 support. then played my 4 witches back to back making him a 80 support warrior!! i stole his dragonball and thrashed him. he did scoop and i got the win with a team power of 91, no biggie on turn 7 for me. beware...
gg
What if he Dende's wished you? Then you may have been the one who had to scoop. Also sounds like you were playing a Mono Super which is really bad for the first 3 sets. 4 Witches is fine, they just need to make more better techs that can counter it or about as good as it.

[Random-Man]

It should be changed to printed power... no other tech multiplies power... they add a set number or it increases linearly like SS3 Goku.

[Zero]

It should be changed to printed power... no other tech multiplies power... they add a set number or it increases linearly like SS3 Goku.

But thats not a big deal at all. If you are sitting their resolving 2-3 techniques and your opponent is doing nothing, than he deserves to get OVd.

[Random-Man]

there isn't much you can do vs 2+ four witches... Expanding vibrations???? how about if I don't run unique?

oh wait... maby we all should just run unique/villian decks! we all will have the best pumps and negation techs!!!!

Just accept that its completely amazing... otherwise we wouldn't be talking about it.

[scubadude]

I think it does a little too much but so do a lot of cards and if SS3 ever goes mainstream I think its needed to deal with his insane power long game.

[Zero]

there isn't much you can do vs 2+ four witches... Expanding vibrations???? how about if I don't run unique?

Every element has some kind of removal, except earth, which has sleepyboy and a bunch of meh adventure showdown stuff that punish you for being greedy.

Just accept that its completely amazing... otherwise we wouldn't be talking about it.

But it isn't amazing at all. Its just good. 4 witches is completely overrated on these boards, due to the uncommon scenario where you have 2 in hand, and your opponent has NO card he could possibly play, despite every deck running cards that would completely punish overextending with techs on 1 character.

[Ninja Pebble]

there isn't much you can do vs 2+ four witches... Expanding vibrations???? how about if I don't run unique?

oh wait... maby we all should just run unique/villian decks! we all will have the best pumps and negation techs!!!!

Just accept that its completely amazing... otherwise we wouldn't be talking about it.

Look at some counter cards. The best ones are from Unique and Earth. The 2 negations Unique has and Sleepy-boy, also almost any AS(Adventure Ahowdown). Alien will have DotC, Vegeta techs and Super has Kao-x20 and even that negating card from set 1.

[NMFM513]

zero i didnt know why i wouldnt want to play the other ones it was funny. i was like when can i make it this big ever again?!
:D

[CaMeRoN]

Honestly.. Someone who is new to the game can obviously see this card as being broken because its so devastating.. However, its not broken in the least and does not need to be errata'd..

Pretty annoying that this has surfaced again.. Anyone who thinks this card should be errata'd or broken needs to stop complaining and look for a way to incorporate something into their deck to prevent it from hurting them.. You can even play around this card.. Just take some time to think of a solution to your problem instead of complaining about it..

[soviet prince]

there is no broken cards in this tcg just overpowered ones. 4witches is defintly a good card, I think the real problem is that no other elements have access to a card like this making it look more broken then it actually is.

[King Cold 1981]

"Guys, I played five events and paid 7 chi to win the game. Clearly this card is broken." - A child, literally (2009)

[CaMeRoN]

"Guys, I played five events and paid 7 chi to win the game. Clearly this card is broken." - A child, literally (2009)

I think someone should make a topic with a petition, "Why King Cold 1981 should be banned or suspended."

[King Cold 1981]

My replies are on topic and well within the rules of the terms of service. Deal with it.

Go ahead and make a thread that violates the rules though, that will show me a thing or two.

[BalanceBJJ]

"Guys, I played five events and paid 7 chi to win the game. Clearly this card is broken." - A child, literally (2009)

"Guys, I'm going to say a card has broken the game, before it even comes out. I'm super serial."

http://www.bandaicg.com/dragonball/showthread.php?t=2427&highlight=binding+technique

So what exactly is worse, saying a good technique is broken, or saying a bad one that rarely sees play is broken? Hmm.....

[DBZFan]

"Guys, I'm going to say a card has broken the game, before it even comes out. I'm super serial."

http://www.bandaicg.com/dragonball/showthread.php?t=2427&highlight=binding+technique

So what exactly is worse, saying a good technique is broken, or saying a bad one that rarely sees play is broken? Hmm.....

Balance, there is only one thing that makes a card game broken:

Manbearpig

[Trunks the Swordsman]

Why so serial?

[NMFM513]

guys i dont think this card should be banned or anything, its just a title. i just did a lil tourney report and showed how high you can possibly get one team hahaha

[Snow]

Balance, there is only one thing that makes a card game broken:

Manbearpig
GAAAAAH It's Manbearpig!

"Guys, I'm going to say a card has broken the game, before it even comes out. I'm super serial."

http://www.bandaicg.com/dragonball/showthread.php?t=2427&highlight=binding+technique

So what exactly is worse, saying a good technique is broken, or saying a bad one that rarely sees play is broken? Hmm.....

Lol. I laughed so much at this. Oh Binding Technique. You slayed me. Especially when King Cold said you were broken. Does anyone actually PLAY this card?

there is no broken cards in this tcg just overpowered ones. 4witches is defintly a good card, I think the real problem is that no other elements have access to a card like this making it look more broken then it actually is.

I really do agree with this. Like, that's the only unsettling part (to me) about DoTC, is the fact that it is all generic chi, so every deck will be running it. I feel like it should have been Alien only, because really, it fits in PERFECTLY with Alien's "theme".

[scubadude]

Lol. I laughed so much at this. Oh Binding Technique. You slayed me. Especially when King Cold said you were broken. Does anyone actually PLAY this card?





We play it as much as time machine !!

[SaiyenPrince]

so i was playing my unique/villain deck in our local. it was the last match and it was for 1st. the game count was 1-1. my opponent had a goku ss3 with the 7/4 0/4 piccolo behind him. my team was (in order) super garlic jr., andriod 19, and majin buu. and i had violet and scr out on my field. i made buu red ribbon and attacked. he blocks of course. i have 2 evil wave explosion, 3 4 witches in hand. 3 villain chi and 2 unique. i played two e.v.e. on buu and he has 10 support. then played my 4 witches back to back making him a 80 support warrior!! i stole his dragonball and thrashed him. he did scoop and i got the win with a team power of 91, no biggie on turn 7 for me. beware...
gg

I think your Team Power is only 63, but thats only if you did it incorecctly...
If this was done all on the chain which resolves first in last out meaning it should have played like this, E.W.E>E.W.E>4 Witches>4 Witches>4 Witches, which that would resolve into 4 witches (Buu is a 12)> 4 Witches (buu is a 24)> 4 Witches (buu is a 48)>E.W.E (buu is 50)> E.W.E (buu is a 52) plus the team power of 11 (7 from SGJ and 4 from 19) making it 63.

Although if you let the 2 E.W.E clear off the chain then play the 4 witches then you did have a team power of 92. Just wanted to state this as I have ran into this problem before in a local game, simply a play mistake but can make a huge difference.

[swordmaster]

Look at some counter cards. The best ones are from Unique and Earth. The 2 negations Unique has and Sleepy-boy, also almost any AS(Adventure Ahowdown). Alien will have DotC, Vegeta techs and Super has Kao-x20 and even that negating card from set 1.

You forgot exceptional power, yeah its cooler only, but its still good.

Also there is alot of warrior -1/-1 that fusion will bring lowering your 4 witches dramatically. neize, and legic maybe another from earth. they are not good against late game pumps like the first statement, but they do help against 4 witches used like round 2 or 3.

[Ninja Pebble]

You forgot exceptional power, yeah its cooler only, but its still good.

Also there is alot of warrior -1/-1 that fusion will bring lowering your 4 witches dramatically. neize, and legic maybe another from earth. they are not good against late game pumps like the first statement, but they do help against 4 witches used like round 2 or 3.

I know I did not name them all I just named some of them that I remembered. But ya those other cards you mentioned are good 2.