Tournament Names and Ranks?

[Evil Jim]

So, I was thinking, what will the ranks be and what will the tournaments be called? Well, since in DB there is a long line of fighting tournaments I guess they will be named the same. Then for ranks, I guess it might be after Super Saiyan levels, or just ranks like in a fighting tournament.

I know that it is a while off, but maybe something we say here will help Bandai out.

[soviet prince]

I think maybe doing a power level type thing will be intresting, like the better you are the higher the power rating.

[Evil Jim]

I think maybe doing a power level type thing will be intresting, like the better you are the higher the power rating.

Yeah, and I guess Sannin rank will be equal to "Over 9000". If that becomes a rank that would be the most win pin.

[soviet prince]

I thinking the more you win the more your rating goes up.

[Evil Jim]

I thinking the more you win the more your rating goes up.

Well, yeah, thats just like Naruto and every other game that has a "rating" system. But I am talking about "ranks" like in Naruto there are Genin, Chunin, and so on. I am pretty sure they will have a similar system, since Naruto was big for them.

[Shinfitz]

Well, yeah, thats just like Naruto and every other game that has a "rating" system. But I am talking about "ranks" like in Naruto there are Genin, Chunin, and so on. I am pretty sure they will have a similar system, since Naruto was big for them.

Well, that worked for Naruto because it fits with the universe.

But there isn't any universal ranking system in the Dragon Ball universe. So why create one just for this game?

I think the Power Level system is the easiest way to handle it.

Instead of being able to say "I'm the Sanin of the Mist village", maybe we'll be able to say "I have the highest power level in West City, topping at 100,000." or something.

[Evil Jim]

Well, that worked for Naruto because it fits with the universe.

But there isn't any universal ranking system in the Dragon Ball universe. So why create one just for this game?

I think the Power Level system is the easiest way to handle it.

Instead of being able to say "I'm the Sanin of the Mist village", maybe we'll be able to say "I have the highest power level in West City, topping at 100,000." or something.

I agree that it worked for Naruto, but its Bandai, I believe they will use what works. Naruto is there first really big game and you can tell by how the new DB game is almost like Naruto(instead of just using the Japanese one). They will use a rating system(since all games have one), but I do not think people will be running around saying what they are, they will just say, I am rated 10th in the country or what ever. But I believe there will have some type of tournament other then a normal one, (aka a Genin) for players to play in to get a invite to Worlds(aka Sannin).

[Shinfitz]

I agree that it worked for Naruto, but its Bandai, I believe they will use what works. Naruto is there first really big game and you can tell by how the new DB game is almost like Naruto(instead of just using the Japanese one). They will use a rating system(since all games have one), but I do not think people will be running around saying what they are, they will just say, I am rated 10th in the country or what ever. But I believe there will have some type of tournament other then a normal one, (aka a Genin) for players to play in to get a invite to Worlds(aka Sannin).

Well, there's plenty of tournaments in the Dragon Ball universe.

For example, there's the World Tournament Hurcule (or Mr. Satan) did.

There's the original Budokai Tenkaichi Tournament.

There's the other world tournament.

There's also the Cell Games Tournament.

So, I mean... take your pick.

[Evil Jim]

Well, there's plenty of tournaments in the Dragon Ball universe.

For example, there's the World Tournament Hurcule (or Mr. Satan) did.

There's the original Budokai Tenkaichi Tournament.

There's the other world tournament.

There's also the Cell Games Tournament.

So, I mean... take your pick.

Yeah, as I said in the first post, there are a long line of tournament, as you just posted. That gives Bandai alot of options.

[CaMeRoN]

Yeah, as I said in the first post, there are a long line of tournament, as you just posted. That gives Bandai alot of options.

For sure, I don't think we will have a problem with tournament names. Bandai is really good about creating a Role Play universe through the different level of tournaments.

[Evil Jim]

For sure, I don't think we will have a problem with tournament names. Bandai is really good about creating a Role Play universe through the different level of tournaments.

Yeah, I could see maybe two ways of doing it.

1) Since its all DB, DBZ and DBGT, they would go in chronological order. The first being the local tournaments, and so on, to the last(or 5th).

2) Have the smallest tournament show as the local, and go out from there.(This will probably be the way they go).

[CaMeRoN]

Yeah, I could see maybe two ways of doing it.

1) Since its all DB, DBZ and DBGT, they would go in chronological order. The first being the local tournaments, and so on, to the last(or 5th).

2) Have the smallest tournament show as the local, and go out from there.(This will probably be the way they go).

Yeah, I think your right about the second one being the choice. That would be my choice :P

[SSJ2 Gohan]

the best sounding idea here to me is the tournament name based on the shows tournaments that or the power level thing

[CaMeRoN]

the best sounding idea here to me is the tournament name based on the shows tournaments that or the power level thing

They could rank people based on their performance through the power levels. You could choose your race; Human, Namekian, Alien, Saiyan, etc.. Then you can level up based on your race and performance in tournaments.

The tournaments themselves should defiantely go by the names of the tournaments in the show. The games created by Bandai for consoles follow the tournaments. I'm fairly certain Bandai is going to run with this as they have undoubtedly already thought of it.

[Evil Jim]

They could rank people based on their performance through the power levels. You could choose your race; Human, Namekian, Alien, Saiyan, etc.. Then you can level up based on your race and performance in tournaments.

I could see something like this, I mean, the naruto system lets you pick a clan.

[CaMeRoN]

I could see something like this, I mean, the naruto system lets you pick a clan.

Haha, yeah. That's what gave me the idea when I posted it :)

[Shinfitz]

I could see something like this, I mean, the naruto system lets you pick a clan.

Well, you can't PICK your clan.

You're lumped into villages based on where you live.

So, I could see them doing the same thing, but with Dragon Ball places.

I.E. West City, South City, ect.

Also, I think picking a race and 'leveling up' is just more bells and whistles any game doesn't need. It takes away from the creditability of the game.

Breaking down regions into whatever they see fit (like the cities from the show, or even the different universes from the show, like North Kai, South Kai, or planets, Planet Vegeta, Earth, Namek, ect.) and giving players power levels to track their performance sounds like the best idea to give some aspects of the show to the organized play, but without making features that really don't matter.

[CaMeRoN]

Well, you can't PICK your clan.

You're lumped into villages based on where you live.

So, I could see them doing the same thing, but with Dragon Ball places.

I.E. West City, South City, ect.

Also, I think picking a race and 'leveling up' is just more bells and whistles any game doesn't need. It takes away from the creditability of the game.

Breaking down regions into whatever they see fit (like the cities from the show, or even the different universes from the show, like North Kai, South Kai, or planets, Planet Vegeta, Earth, Namek, ect.) and giving players power levels to track their performance sounds like the best idea to give some aspects of the show to the organized play, but without making features that really don't matter.

Actually, you are able to pick your clan on GamersRoundTable. It's in addition to your village. I am in the Aburame clan.

I don't understand why leveling up would take away from the credibility of the game. There are ranks in Naruto. They are Academy Student, Genin, Chuunin, Jonin, and Hokage. Why can't we have Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan 2, Super Saiyan 3, Super Saiyan 4? It's the exact same thing but applied through a different context.

I don't mind your last argument with the different Kai planets. They could very well do that. Of course I wouldn't be against it ;)

[Evil Jim]

As CaMeRoN said, you can pick your "clan", but not your village.

I could see the cities becoming the villages, or maybe the planets. They did go to a bunch of planets in GT, but I think they would not be well known.

For Rank, I now think they will do Super Saiyan levels, because there are 5 levels of tournaments, the first being basic(Saiyan), then after the second type of tournament (Genin) you would become Super Saiyan and so on.

[soviet prince]

power levels and the SS level system is the best way to do this.

[Evil Jim]

power levels and the SS level system is the best way to do this.

For power levels, all they have to do it up the number that is in the GRT system.

[CaMeRoN]

As CaMeRoN said, you can pick your "clan", but not your village.

I could see the cities becoming the villages, or maybe the planets. They did go to a bunch of planets in GT, but I think they would not be well known.

For Rank, I now think they will do Super Saiyan levels, because there are 5 levels of tournaments, the first being basic(Saiyan), then after the second type of tournament (Genin) you would become Super Saiyan and so on.

Kudos, man! It would be fine with me if they used GT Planets. If we don't know the planet name then we can definately learn about it. It will be a knowledge gaining experience ^^

[Shinfitz]

Actually, you are able to pick your clan on GamersRoundTable. It's in addition to your village. I am in the Aburame clan.

I don't understand why leveling up would take away from the credibility of the game. There are ranks in Naruto. They are Academy Student, Genin, Chuunin, Jonin, and Hokage. Why can't we have Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan 2, Super Saiyan 3, Super Saiyan 4? It's the exact same thing but applied through a different context.

I don't mind your last argument with the different Kai planets. They could very well do that. Of course I wouldn't be against it ;)

Oh, I wasn't aware that players could be in a clan.

What's the significance of belonging to one?

The reason I say leveling up would take credibility from the game is because it's just another feature that isn't necessary.

However, the way you put it with Genin, Chunin, ect. I guess I sort of understand.

But honestly, only the last level matters.

Who actually goes around stating that they are a Chunin, or even a Jonin?

I guess wining the Jonin event is a big deal, so saying that might have some sort of significance. But that's a big tournament anyway.

All I'm saying is, having super sayian, and super sayian two, ect. in the long run won't make a difference, or bring much prestige.

The winner of a big event can be called the Super Sayian, or strongest on the planet, or whatever. And the winner of worlds can be declared Super Sayian two? Or the strongest in the universe? I donno.

I'm not for or against the levels thing, I just think it seems like a gimmick.

[Evil Jim]

Oh, I wasn't aware that players could be in a clan.

What's the significance of belonging to one?

The reason I say leveling up would take credibility from the game is because it's just another feature that isn't necessary.

However, the way you put it with Genin, Chunin, ect. I guess I sort of understand.

But honestly, only the last level matters.

Who actually goes around stating that they are a Chunin, or even a Jonin?

I guess wining the Jonin event is a big deal, so saying that might have some sort of significance. But that's a big tournament anyway.

All I'm saying is, having super sayian, and super sayian two, ect. in the long run won't make a difference, or bring much prestige.

The winner of a big event can be called the Super Sayian, or strongest on the planet, or whatever. And the winner of worlds can be declared Super Sayian two? Or the strongest in the universe? I donno.

I'm not for or against the levels thing, I just think it seems like a gimmick.

The Clans in Naruto do nothing, just something you have on your profile.

And you your SSs wrong. If you win a "Genin" size tournament you would become SS, "Chunin" would be SS2, "Jonin" would be SS3, and "Sannin" would be SS4. But If they do know have SS has the rank, then I would see them doing champion X of that tournament be the rank. I have a feeling it would be like this, since I am guessing there tournament system, will be based on DB tournaments.

[CaMeRoN]

The entire ranking system is there for fun. If I reach a higher level of ranking then I can say that I am improving in my game. Your right, it doesn't have any meaning. It's a fun thing that Bandai came up with. It makes the Organized Play that much more fun. I enjoy elements such as these associated with tournaments and rankings.

But If they do know have SS has the rank, then I would see them doing champion X of that tournament be the rank. I have a feeling it would be like this, since I am guessing there tournament system, will be based on DB tournaments.
I had trouble understand this. I read it a couple times but I couldn't find any meaning. I don't want to take a guess as to what you are trying to convey. Could you re-phrase it for me? Please and Thank You, Cam. :D

[Evil Jim]

The entire ranking system is there for fun. If I reach a higher level of ranking then I can say that I am improving in my game. Your right, it doesn't have any meaning. It's a fun thing that Bandai came up with. It makes the Organized Play that much more fun. I enjoy elements such as these associated with tournaments and rankings.
Well, the ranking does do something. In naruto, the Genin rank lets you go to Sannin.


I had trouble understand this. I read it a couple times but I couldn't find any meaning. I don't want to take a guess as to what you are trying to convey. Could you re-phrase it for me? Please and Thank You, Cam. :D

Ok, like lets say that Budokai Tenkaichi tournament is the same as the Genin. You win you get a pin(or the like) and you are the Champion of Budokai Tenkaichi. I use using X as the place holder of the name of what ever tournament.

[CaMeRoN]

Well, the ranking does do something. In naruto, the Genin rank lets you go to Sannin.

Ok, like lets say that Budokai Tenkaichi tournament is the same as the Genin. You win you get a pin(or the like) and you are the Champion of Budokai Tenkaichi. I use using X as the place holder of the name of what ever tournament.

Ah, I see what you mean. I appreciate you clearing that up for me.

Are you sure that if you obtained a genin ranking you could go to the saanin? I always thought you had to win a genin tournament. It's possible to obtain a genin rank without winning a genin tournament ;) I could be wrong though :D

[Shinfitz]

And you your SSs wrong. If you win a "Genin" size tournament you would become SS, "Chunin" would be SS2, "Jonin" would be SS3, and "Sannin" would be SS4.

When did I organize and say Super Sayian would equal Genin or Chunin, or whatever?

All I stated was that maybe the winner of a big event could be Super Sayian and the winner or worlds could be the next one, skipping all the ones in between since, the main point of my post was, having all the filler ranks is meaningless.

Similar to the american belt system in most martial arts. What ever happened to the traditional White, Green, Black. Anyway...

If people like to track their own progress, you could do that with the Power Level rating, however, the more I think about it, having filler ranks might not be so bad, I guess, and could serve the same purpose.

Score didn't have a bad thing going with their tournament names. Normal tournaments were just that, tournaments. Than there was the world tournament called the Grand Kai Invitational, which made sense, since that was the last and most prestigious tournament in the DBZ universe.

I believe there was one in between, but I'm not sure.

Anyway, seems like I'm alone on the ranks thing. So, I'll just drop it.

Ranks are cool, whatever. ^_^;

[Evil Jim]

Ah, I see what you mean. I appreciate you clearing that up for me.

Are you sure that if you obtained a genin ranking you could go to the saanin? I always thought you had to win a genin tournament. It's possible to obtain a genin rank without winning a genin tournament ;) I could be wrong though :D

Yep, if you get a Genin or higher rank you get to play in Sannin. They had a list of Genin and higher, to see if you could play in the Sannin. I believe it was 25 normal wins, to become a Genin.

[Evil Jim]

When did I organize and say Super Sayian would equal Genin or Chunin, or whatever?

All I stated was that maybe the winner of a big event could be Super Sayian and the winner or worlds could be the next one, skipping all the ones in between since, the main point of my post was, having all the filler ranks is meaningless.

Similar to the american belt system in most martial arts. What ever happened to the traditional White, Green, Black. Anyway...

If people like to track their own progress, you could do that with the Power Level rating, however, the more I think about it, having filler ranks might not be so bad, I guess, and could serve the same purpose.

Score didn't have a bad thing going with their tournament names. Normal tournaments were just that, tournaments. Than there was the world tournament called the Grand Kai Invitational, which made sense, since that was the last and most prestigious tournament in the DBZ universe.

I believe there was one in between, but I'm not sure.

Anyway, seems like I'm alone on the ranks thing. So, I'll just drop it.

Ranks are cool, whatever. ^_^;

But see as I stated before this is Bandai, they will do what has worked before, aka Naruto. And yes by saying if you win a big tournament you become SS and worlds you become SS2, was "organizing" it.

[CaMeRoN]

But see as I stated before this is Bandai, they will do what has worked before, aka Naruto. And yes by saying if you win a big tournament you become SS and worlds you become SS2, was "organizing" it.

Haha, yeah. I'm not going to put anything past bandai at this point. They will do whatever they believe is the idea solution for Organized Play, despite any of our displeasure :D

[Shinfitz]

But see as I stated before this is Bandai, they will do what has worked before, aka Naruto. And yes by saying if you win a big tournament you become SS and worlds you become SS2, was "organizing" it.

Well, hopefully Bandai will recognize that although what they're doing with Naruto is 'working' that the two series are just that. Two different universes in which where one thing worked, the same might not for the other series.

Also, when I said a big event winner would be Super Sayian and worlds Super Sayian two, I was merely throwing out terms and not giving my opinion on what I believe the rankings should be. This was represented by me putting a question mark at the end of the sentence instead of a period. I wasn't organizing anything.

[CaMeRoN]

Well, hopefully Bandai will recognize that although what they're doing with Naruto is 'working' that the two series are just that. Two different universes in which where one thing worked, the same might not for the other series.

Also, when I said a big event winner would be Super Sayian and worlds Super Sayian two, I was merely throwing out terms and not giving my opinion on what I believe the rankings should be. This was represented by me putting a question mark at the end of the sentence instead of a period. I wasn't organizing anything.

It's cool man, don't sweat it. Bandai appears to be doing a decent job with the tournaments in the Naruto CCG. "Why change what already works?" I wouldn't be surprised if they took that standpoint when deciding how to do the DragonBall CCG tournament system.

[Evil Jim]

Well, hopefully Bandai will recognize that although what they're doing with Naruto is 'working' that the two series are just that. Two different universes in which where one thing worked, the same might not for the other series.

Also, when I said a big event winner would be Super Sayian and worlds Super Sayian two, I was merely throwing out terms and not giving my opinion on what I believe the rankings should be. This was represented by me putting a question mark at the end of the sentence instead of a period. I wasn't organizing anything.

Well, thats the say it came off. Well, I know its 2 different universes, but look at it through the eyes of Bandai, they have had a ton of games, that have failed in the OP area, and not lasting longer then 5 sets. Then Naruto comes along, BAM, they get a hit, have more then 5 sets and a good OP. I believe they will start off very close to Naruto's OP system, then change it to more a DB feel later.

[CaMeRoN]

Well, thats the say it came off. Well, I know its 2 different universes, but look at it through the eyes of Bandai, they have had a ton of games, that have failed in the OP area, and not lasting longer then 5 sets. Then Naruto comes along, BAM, they get a hit, have more then 5 sets and a good OP. I believe they will start off very close to Naruto's OP system, then change it to more a DB feel later.

That sounds quite feasible for them. They don't need to take a chance by creating an all new tournament structure for DragonBall CCG. Your right, if they adapt the Naruto CCG tournament structure into a Dragonball CCG tournament structure, then it will save them a lot of work and they have a good idea of how well it performs.

[Shinfitz]

Well, thats the say it came off. Well, I know its 2 different universes, but look at it through the eyes of Bandai, they have had a ton of games, that have failed in the OP area, and not lasting longer then 5 sets. Then Naruto comes along, BAM, they get a hit, have more then 5 sets and a good OP. I believe they will start off very close to Naruto's OP system, then change it to more a DB feel later.

You're more than correct.

And to be honest, if they duplicate Naruto's organized play exactly, it wouldn't be a bad thing.

So, here's to them continuing what they've been doing with Naruto.

Although I don't believe their organized play success was due to the fact that players have many ranks to gain.

A few friends of mine got interested in the game once they heard you can become a Kage, so that's why I feel only the last rank is the only one that really matters.

But again, you're right. And as I said above, Bandai following the same formula I believe can only bring more success.

[Evil Jim]

Yeah, I am pretty sure Bandai's success with Naruto was because it was Naruto. Just like how Wizards had great success with pokemon, just because it was the next big thing. But since the start of Bandai's success, they have developed a good OP system, and will continue to use it.

[soviet prince]

they should stick to this formula becuse it works why fix something that not broke.

[Goldenwill]

Yes they should stick with the current formula however they should adapt it to DBZ. Lets face it good support is good support and that is what keeps games going and competative.

[soviet prince]

Yes they should stick with the current formula however they should adapt it to DBZ. Lets face it good support is good support and that is what keeps games going and competative.

yeah as long as they keep the promo's and mat's I will be happy.

[CaMeRoN]

yeah as long as they keep the promo's and mat's I will be happy.

Yep. It would be nice if the promos wern't re-prints but, hey, we get what they'll give us. The promos are nice and since they are being given out, I'll take one :D The mats are what really draw me to liking the prize support given by bandai. They look nice, are useful, draw a crowd, you name it! They are great :D Don't mess with a good thing Bandai, it will only hurt you ;)

[soviet prince]

Yep. It would be nice if the promos wern't re-prints but, hey, we get what they'll give us. The promos are nice and since they are being given out, I'll take one :D The mats are what really draw me to liking the prize support given by bandai. They look nice, are useful, draw a crowd, you name it! They are great :D Don't mess with a good thing Bandai, it will only hurt you ;)


yeah nothing beats Bandai mat, i have a garra one and the art work is top notch.

[DragonFist]

I dont know about names....maybe:

Regular tournies = Martial Arts Tournament
Regionals = Space Martial Arts Tournament
Championships = Universal Martial Arts Tournament
Nationals = Kai Martial Arts Tournament
Worlds(if ever) = Grand Kai Martial Arts Tournament

eh...my brain sort of shorted on me...:D