Majin Theme Discussion

[texans07]

Today's Theme has been posted!

http://www.bandaicg.com/dragonball/showthread.php?p=29374#post29374

Wednesday will be Brain Washed Theme!

Discuss & enjoy! :D

[loolp]

Majin Buu: Awesome!!!
Babidi: Don't really like kind of a crappy version of red too many requirements.
Bibidi: I like seems more useful than babidi
Event: Idk guess it could be useful against stomping or something
Tech: It's alright

[Rastas4Jesus09]

majin buu- a phenominal card, may be a bit expensive chi wise to be a lead warrior but has a ridiculous support value regardless of being injured or not, i wud love to pull it

babidi- the effect is needs a chi and a dragon ball and only adds a +1 to who to not that many people, i don't think its worth using, the evil tribe is a nice touch but i think it will be interesting to see if he is used or not.

bibidi- once again its nice he has evil tribe but the stats are subpar and his effect doesn't guarentee you anything.

ball of seal- awesome, say goodbye to senzu bean super heal decks, say good buy to captured, evil containment wave, four witches tecnnique. i think this should b in every unique deck

sorcery- effect is not that great and can only be used by two not that great warriors. meh

[majingogeta344]

Why do Babbidi and Bibbidi work on Brain Washed people when Majin Buu isn't Brain Washed?

[The Genre]

All these cards are terrible except Majin Buu and Ball of Seal.

Majin Buu is amazing, obviously.

The Ball of Seal or whatever it's called needs to be clarified so bad. Card is (%*$#^ing broken. Can you name a warrior? This means they cannot play a warrior you name. If you name a warrior, like Supreme Commander red and they have it out does that mean he gets his effect still; thus USING it? Or is he a blank text?

That card is amazing.

[Rastas4Jesus09]

Why do Babbidi and Bibbidi work on Brain Washed people when Majin Buu isn't Brain Washed?

majin buu isn't really brain washed, he just does whatever he wants, like punch babidi's head off, of course then again majin vegeta didn't really listen either

[swordmaster]

Majin buu - Hes amazing we all new he was coming

Babidi - He is like a worse version of super bulma except you can't use him early and he is action rather than strategy so you have to send him out. Dual will never use him and really won't see play unless there are some amazing brain washed characters coming.

Bibidi - Ummmm yeah still not what I would consider good he is nice if unique gets some good brainwashed characters we will have to see who the last 3 are. and if dabura is brainwashed.

The ball of seal - in a word amazing combo buster of doom (pick whichever word out of that you want.) It reminds me of caught off guard drill from old score Z it is amazing. CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC-Combo Breaker!

Scorcery - This card is meh just ok. Hand discard can be great early game especially against style that rely on it and have to draw, but only 2 characters can use it and its not really that useful. i can see it seeing play in a brainwashed deck but really don't see a brain washed deck.

[majingogeta344]

majin buu isn't really brain washed, he just does whatever he wants, like punch babidi's head off, of course then again majin vegeta didn't really listen either

But Bibbidi made him, so why can't he do something to or with him?

All these cards are terrible except Majin Buu and Ball of Seal.

Majin Buu is amazing, obviously.

The Ball of Seal or whatever it's called needs to be clarified so bad. Card is (%*$#^ing broken. Can you name a warrior? This means they cannot play a warrior you name. If you name a warrior, like Supreme Commander red and they have it out does that mean he gets his effect still; thus USING it? Or is he a blank text?

That card is amazing.
It's not broken. It will probably be a sidedeck card, since you won't know what they're running until after you play them once.

[swordmaster]

It's not broken. It will probably be a sidedeck card, since you won't know what they're running until after you play them once.

I would main deck that in a heart beat. they play final form frieza i play seal on him. Goodbye deathball, be a dead card for 3 turns. hell it is better than stomping lol if i name a warrior they have on the field and attack boom they can't use him to block unless they clarify that they can, but the way i read it they can't.

[Sneaky]

It's not broken. It will probably be a sidedeck card, since you won't know what they're running until after you play them once.

Umm..By turn 4 I'm pretty sure you'll know what they have >_>

[Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Buu]

Majin buu - Hes amazing we all new he was coming

Babidi - He is like a worse version of super bulma except you can't use him early and he is action rather than strategy so you have to send him out. Dual will never use him and really won't see play unless there are some amazing brain washed characters coming.

Bibidi - Ummmm yeah still not what I would consider good he is nice if unique gets some good brainwashed characters we will have to see who the last 3 are. and if dabura is brainwashed.

The ball of seal - in a word amazing combo buster of doom (pick whichever word out of that you want.) It reminds me of caught off guard drill from old score Z it is amazing. CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC-Combo Breaker!

Scorcery - This card is meh just ok. Hand discard can be great early game especially against style that rely on it and have to draw, but only 2 characters can use it and its not really that useful. i can see it seeing play in a brainwashed deck but really don't see a brain washed deck.

You don't have to send him out. You just have to have someone sent out to battle so that there is an action phase.

Majin Buu = Amazing. BTW does his effect say +3/+3 or +3/-3?
We can't really evaluate Babidi and Bibidi until we see the brain wash theme.
The Ball of Seal is pretty good.
Sorcery isn't that good.

[majingogeta344]

I would main deck that in a heart beat. they play final form frieza i play seal on him. Goodbye deathball, be a dead card for 3 turns. hell it is better than stomping lol if i name a warrior they have on the field and attack boom they can't use him to block unless they clarify that they can, but the way i read it they can't.

I don't think sending out to battle is being used. The "used" part is for events and the "played" part is for Techs and WAs.

[Rastas4Jesus09]

sounds like we are going to need some major clarification on ball of seal

[swordmaster]

You don't have to send him out. You just have to have someone sent out to battle so that there is an action phase.

Majin Buu = Amazing. BTW does his effect say +3/+3 or +3/-3?
We can't really evaluate Babidi and Bibidi until we see the brain wash theme.
The Ball of Seal is pretty good.
Sorcery isn't that good.

I thought all action use required them to be in battle. I may be wrong. either way he is too expensive and just not good. Brainwashed would have to be pretty amazing with some sort of permanent event that made all your characters brainwashed for me to even consider decking the card.

[majingogeta344]

You don't have to send him out. You just have to have someone sent out to battle so that there is an action phase.

Majin Buu = Amazing. BTW does his effect say +3/+3 or +3/-3?
We can't really evaluate Babidi and Bibidi until we see the brain wash theme.
The Ball of Seal is pretty good.
Sorcery isn't that good.

+3/-3 my good sir.

[theyellowdart]

I don't think sending out to battle is being used. The "used" part is for events and the "played" part is for Techs and WAs.

i would agree w/ majingogeta on this one. i think if you have a warrior out, the seal card doesn't block him. it just prevents cards from being played. i'm sure there will be a ruling on this card soon, the wording is kind of confusing.

[Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Buu]

+3/-3 my good sir.

Thank you my good sir. Still amazing though, 5 Support!

[QUOTE] thought all action use required them to be in battle. I may be wrong. either way he is too expensive and just not good. Brainwashed would have to be pretty amazing with some sort of permanent event that made all your characters brainwashed for me to even consider decking the card.[QUOTE]

As long as there is an action step, anyone can use their effect that has an action timing. How else are you supposed to use Baba's effect to make sure that the battle rewards you are giving away aren't cards that you need;)

[Piccolo'sDad]

Bididi and Babidi being Evil Tribe is of course awesome, but they're more for Brain Washed decks really.

Majin Buu is old news.

Ball of Seal is an instant in deck for any Unique deck. There are so many cards that this can just shut down completely.

[swordmaster]

Thank you my good sir. Still amazing though, 5 Support!


i like his injured stats lol

[superandroid21]

i threw up when i read majin buu..... he is crazy good. 8 support with his ability ftw!!!!! lol

[Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Buu]

+3/-3 my good sir.

i threw up when i read majin buu..... he is crazy good. 8 support with his ability ftw!!!!! lol

Read above.

[Piccolo'sDad]

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His ability gives him +3/-3, not +3/+3....

[Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Buu]

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His ability gives him +3/-3, not +3/+3....

Can you tell me what that picture is? I've always been wondering about it.

[swordmaster]

8 support and i would be playing unique villain so fast. thank god its not.

[WolfwoodTheCross]

Can you tell me what that picture is? I've always been wondering about it.

Thats Captain Picard.

[Equinox123]

majin buu- Old news as stated before. He is a great unique card and will see play. You can even have him in mixed decks because you just need 1 unique to play and the other chi don't matter.

babidi- Nothing that great about babidi. His effect requires to much and i'm sure there are better things to spend chi on for uniqye.

bibidi- I actually like this card. DB really lacks cheap searching techniques and this warrior does make up for it in a majin deck. The alien cards that you need for freiza are just too costly.

ball of seal- Very good card. I think this card is just like "caught off guard drill" from the old score dbz game in which it doesn't effect anything on in play. When it says "used," i think it is just referring to techniques to be consistent with wording. Although you can also say that to be consistent with wording the card needs to say "deploy" for warriors, so I guess we need to wait for a final ruling.

sorcery- Interesting that it's a beam technique. There needs to be more "wizards" in order for this to be more playable.

[the Joker0122]

Why do Babbidi and Bibbidi work on Brain Washed people when Majin Buu isn't Brain Washed?

Majin Buu wasnt brain washed by Bibidi, he was created by Bibidi

[dunpeal2064]

on the card "the ball of seal", I'm pretty positive it can't stop people from being sent out, because if you think about the card "captured" why would they print a card that did the same thing and way way more for only 1 chi.

but on that note, i still don't think it is a sideboard card. i mean... you sideboard for things that effect cards that not everyone plays.... but everyone plays something you can name. and with only 3 sets out, as of 1st turn you should know what would screw them up... and if you dont just name 4 witches. lol

[CaMeRoN]

Ball of Seal seems broken to me. Such a low cost for an effect like that is overwhelming.

According to the rulebook;

”Put into play” and “Deployment”
Putting a Warrior into play includes both putting a Warrior into play by regular deployment and by card effect. However, deployment doesn’t include putting a Warrior into play by card effect. Also, when you put a Warrior into play by card effect, that player does not have to pay either the Turn cost or Chi cost of that card.

I imagine that this card doesn't negate continuous effects of cards that are already on the field. But I imagine it does negate the effects of cards that require you to pay an activation cost.

[LordxMugen]

well its clearly written what a "majin" deck does by these cards and thats pure disruption. make their warriors lose effects, make them cant draw and lose their hand. make them cant PLAY cards. make you cant play big teams. Im very interested by this. my only problem is that the really cool cards are T4, that makes them a little slow. but sorcery is awesome so it should make up for that.

[swordmaster]

on the card "the ball of seal", I'm pretty positive it can't stop people from being sent out, because if you think about the card "captured" why would they print a card that did the same thing and way way more for only 1 chi.

but on that note, i still don't think it is a sideboard card. i mean... you sideboard for things that effect cards that not everyone plays.... but everyone plays something you can name. and with only 3 sets out, as of 1st turn you should know what would screw them up... and if you dont just name 4 witches. lol

yeah i agree it would be 1000x better than captured in that respect, but I have seen cards games that throw caution to the wind and just make the cards they feel are needed. i mean It is a different style if they think that unique needs it, then.... I am just looking at the wording as is, if they say it only works on playing characters and using their effects then so be it, but if it was out right now and there was no ruling on the card, as is, I would say that use is use, if you can't use a card then that includes everything. that card can not be, sent out, use its effect, or played while this card is naming him.

besides if they ment use its effect then it should say "use its effect" not used.

[Random-Man]

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR A CARD WITH BETTER THAN 3 SUPPORT!!!
I wana see this card change peoples minds about making a super lone wolf to a unique lone wolf. 5/5 injured is soooo critical.

[Bibbo]

Majin Buu - Great, great, card and awesome/mean art
Babadi - Currently useless a weaker SCR in every respect
Bibidi - Not really useful now but could be great later in the game
Ball of Seal - Wonderful card that requires knowing one's opponent and timing.
Sorcery - Nice effect, lousy requirements

[CaMeRoN]

well its clearly written what a "majin" deck does by these cards and thats pure disruption. make their warriors lose effects, make them cant draw and lose their hand. make them cant PLAY cards. make you cant play big teams. Im very interested by this. my only problem is that the really cool cards are T4, that makes them a little slow. but sorcery is awesome so it should make up for that.

For sure.. There was also a card from the first set that did the same thing as Sorcery..

[LordxMugen]

For sure.. There was also a card from the first set that did the same thing as Sorcery..
Absorbed Power. its their anybody discards tech. only problem is its T4 and requires a ball. still, id play 2 of each in a majin deck.

[Bibbo]

I pretty sure the word of "used" simply means Techniques and Events along with Warriors not being able to be put into play

[the Joker0122]

Absorbed Power. its their anybody discards tech. only problem is its T4 and requires a ball. still, id play 2 of each in a majin deck.

Milling their hand is good, but I dont think Id waste a spot on it. If you run 25 warriors that leaves you 15 spots for techs/events. With all the good techs out right now for unique Im just not sold on running those cards so I think its kinda crappy :(

[CaMeRoN]

I pretty sure the word of "used" simply means Techniques and Events along with Warriors not being able to be put into play

Umm dude.. Put into play is when you put play a warrior or technique or event onto the field.

[Bibbo]

Umm dude.. Put into play is when you put play a warrior or technique or event onto the field.

The point I was trying to make was, the wording just means that the named card can't be played/used/put into play/etc. but if it is already in play it doesn't stop it.

[CaMeRoN]

The point I was trying to make was, the wording just means that the named card can't be played/used/put into play/etc. but if it is already in play it doesn't stop it.

Oh. But I think that if it is already in play but has an effect with an activation cost then it will stop the effect (i.e. Master Roshi). However, if it is a continuous effect then it wont' stop it (i.e. Supreme commander Red).

[Bibbo]

Oh. But I think that if it is already in play but has an effect with an activation cost then it will stop the effect (i.e. Master Roshi). However, if it is a continuous effect then it wont' stop it (i.e. Supreme commander Red).

Agreed, it seems "used" may also equate "activate"

[CardcaptorDustin]

This is a complete turn around for me.
I was starting to think badly about this set. But the Majin Buu is simply amazing. This whole theme will go absolutly amazing in my deck

[Demonic Genocide]

majin buu- Old news as stated before. He is a great unique card and will see play. You can even have him in mixed decks because you just need 1 unique to play and the other chi don't matter.

babidi- Nothing that great about babidi. His effect requires to much and i'm sure there are better things to spend chi on for uniqye.

bibidi- I actually like this card. DB really lacks cheap searching techniques and this warrior does make up for it in a majin deck. The alien cards that you need for freiza are just too costly.

ball of seal- Very good card. I think this card is just like "caught off guard drill" from the old score dbz game in which it doesn't effect anything on in play. When it says "used," i think it is just referring to techniques to be consistent with wording. Although you can also say that to be consistent with wording the card needs to say "deploy" for warriors, so I guess we need to wait for a final ruling.

sorcery- Interesting that it's a beam technique. There needs to be more "wizards" in order for this to be more playable.

Actually Caught off guard drill did effect stuff in play. If you named a location, ally, non-combat, etc. it shut it off. That is why you could play a caught off guard drill of your own to shut off your opponents by naming caught off guard drill.

Anyway Ball is amazing cuz you will have an idea what to name by 4 if you main deck it. I can think of so many things to shut off with this it isnt even funny.

[scubadude]

Majin buu was the only good one I liked but hes all i need hes so good with 5 support.

The other cards too much cost and stats too low for my taste.

[the Joker0122]

Actually Caught off guard drill did effect stuff in play. If you named a location, ally, non-combat, etc. it shut it off. That is why you could play a caught off guard drill of your own to shut off your opponents by naming caught off guard drill.

Anyway Ball is amazing cuz you will have an idea what to name by 4 if you main deck it. I can think of so many things to shut off with this it isnt even funny.

This is very true since I played the Score DBZ card game. Problem is, Caught Off Guard Drill and any drill for that matter could be taken care of because there were numerous cards that could remove/discard Drills/Non-combat cards in play. This Bandai DB CCG does not have very many cards to do so yet, making this card more devastating for the time being. We have Spirit Ball and Launch which are the better ways to get rid of Events, but not everyone can use Spirit Ball. We can also decrease the amount of time left on the Event with cards like Wolf Fang Fist, but again, not everyone can play this card.

[DBZFan]

This is very true since I played the Score DBZ card game. Problem is, Caught Off Guard Drill and any drill for that matter could be taken care of because there were numerous cards that could remove/discard Drills/Non-combat cards in play. This Bandai DB CCG does not have very many cards to do so yet, making this card more devastating for the time being. We have Spirit Ball and Launch which are the better ways to get rid of Events, but not everyone can use Spirit Ball. We can also decrease the amount of time left on the Event with cards like Wolf Fang Fist, but again, not everyone can play this card.

Looks like super can couter then

[the Joker0122]

Looks like super can couter then

Thats really about it, but do you really want to use that amount of space worrying about one card? I mean if you want better odds of drawing them you would at least put 2x of each card, Spirit Ball and Wolf Fang Fist, but that does nothing to help your teams gain an advantage. Who knows we'll see through play testing when Set 3 comes out.

[Phaxion]

buu totally wont see any play :rolleyes:

[the Joker0122]

buu totally wont see any play :rolleyes:

Agreed! He sucks sooooo bad times like 9000 :)

[Phaxion]

Agreed! He sucks sooooo bad times like 9000 :)

haha, oh yeah
whats up with +3 as an effect for 1 chi... weak

[the Joker0122]

haha, oh yeah
whats up with +3 as an effect for 1 chi... weak

You see if he got +4 for no chi cost Id consider playing him, but as he is now 5/5 healthy and 5/5 injured, yeah hes just not very good...

[Phaxion]

You see if he got +4 for no chi cost Id consider playing him, but as he is now 5/5 healthy and 5/5 injured, yeah hes just not very good...

i have to agree with you joker. i would play a character that gets +4 for no chi in an instant

[the Joker0122]

i have to agree with you joker. i would play a character that gets +4 for no chi in an instant

I expect everyone to agree with me :p

[Phaxion]

I expect everyone to agree with me :p

that is very true ;)

[the Joker0122]

that is very true ;)

Hahahah :D

Fine I'll give him alittle bit of credit, hes an OK card... lol :p

[Phaxion]

Hahahah :D

Fine I'll give him alittle bit of credit, hes an OK card... lol :p

yeahhh.... i'll give him his mediocre 5 support value while injured.
but by mediocre i mean extremely solid

[the Joker0122]

yeahhh.... i'll give him his mediocre 5 support value while injured.
but by mediocre i mean extremely solid

I wouldnt go as far as saying "extremely solid"... I mean he could be alot better... lol :rolleyes:

[Phaxion]

I wouldnt go as far as saying "extremely solid"... I mean he could be alot better... lol :rolleyes:

you know... you're right. they really should have made him a 7/7 minimally:D

[soviet prince]

Buu: 5 support is good, pretty good super rare.
Bibidi: a searcher, I will wait and see wht wendsdays theme brings
Babidi: come on, if he did not cost a dragonball and chi then maybe he would see use.
Ball of seal: decent card, may consider running if got the room if not side it goes
sorcery: with the only 2 wizards being not very good, I would not run this card

[the Joker0122]

you know... you're right. they really should have made him a 7/7 minimally:D

Well... lets put it this way.

Android 16 <<<<< Cell PF

Yet 16 is a 7/1 and Cell is a 8/4 so we're good here :)

Cell PF <<<<< Buu

But Cell is a 8/4 and Buu is a 5/5? Whats wrong here? Yeah Buu completely sucks :D

[Phaxion]

Well... lets put it this way.

Android 16 <<<<< Cell PF

Yet 16 is a 7/1 and Cell is a 8/4 so we're good here :)

Cell PF <<<<< Buu

But Cell is a 8/4 and Buu is a 5/5? Whats wrong here? Yeah Buu completely sucks :D

that definitely puts it all into perspective

[Goggles123]

Majin Buu: This card is as amazing as we expected it to be. And OH GOD THE EYES! THE EYES!
Babidi: Like a Terrible Super Bulma. :(
Bibidi: Meh. If there is enough to build the Brainwashed deck it will prolly be played in that.
Event: Amazing card. Side board staple for unique. I wouldn't be surprised if it got mainboarded.
Tech: Yuck.

[the Joker0122]

Majin Buu: This card is as amazing as we expected it to be. And OH GOD THE EYES! THE EYES!
Babidi: Like a Terrible Super Bulma. :(
Bibidi: Meh. If there is enough to build the Brainwashed deck it will prolly be played in that.
Event: Amazing card. Side board staple for unique. I wouldn't be surprised if it got mainboarded.
Tech: Yuck.

Okay clearly you have missed the last 2 pages of this topic :p

[Phaxion]

Okay clearly you have missed the last 2 pages of this topic :p

hahaha, yeah, he's obviously off on that opinion :rolleyes:

[the Joker0122]

that definitely puts it all into perspective

Once again, I try really hard to make these simple concepts clearer for everyone :p

[the Joker0122]

hahaha, yeah, he's obviously off on that opinion :rolleyes:

Well not everyone reads through these entire topics before posting his thoughts :p

[swordmaster]

Once again, I try really hard to make these simple concepts clearer for everyone :p

That is fine joker any Buu super rares that are worthless to you that you get just send them to me I will take them off your hands and burn them for you.:rolleyes: of course I will give you something for your troubles how about a nice Last gamble.

[the Joker0122]

That is fine joker any Buu super rares that are worthless to you that you get just send them to me I will take them off your hands and burn them for you.:rolleyes: of course I will give you something for your troubles how about a nice Last gamble.

Sounds like an awesome deal! But since I obviously dont want Buu I obviously dont want Last Gamble :p how about you make it a Micominiaturizer and its a deal :D

[scubadude]

Sounds like an awesome deal! But since I obviously dont want Buu I obviously dont want Last Gamble :p how about you make it a Micominiaturizer and its a deal :D

Ill give you foil of those for majin buu.

[the Joker0122]

Ill give you foil of those for majin buu.

Dam! Its a definite deal then! :D :D

[DBZFan]

Dam! Its a definite deal then! :D :D

How bout a foil King choppa? :D

[the Joker0122]

How bout a foil King choppa? :D

I already have like a bajillion of him! How about Accident? :D

[scubadude]

I already have like a bajillion of him! How about Accident? :D

Sweet let me know when you pull majin buu next week lol .

[the Joker0122]

Sweet let me know when you pull majin buu next week lol .

Oh I definately will :D

[DBZFan]

I already have like a bajillion of him! How about Accident? :D

No, u kidding me?? King choppa is SUPER broke. So is accident!!

But the most broke of them all............ T5 goku STSR

[dunpeal2064]

i think that if you compare a lot of cards to villain cards, they aren't good, but that doesn't make it a bad card. i still think buu is pretty sick, because he is a lot easier to get out than cell, and has 5 support and a possible 8 attack on your turns. he does lack a nice ability like feirce (which seems to be gone on supers now) or thrash, but he is still good for a 2nd team to be swinging by a majin vegeta

[DBZFan]

i think that if you compare a lot of cards to villain cards, they aren't good, but that doesn't make it a bad card. i still think buu is pretty sick, because he is a lot easier to get out than cell, and has 5 support and a possible 8 attack on your turns. he does lack a nice ability like feirce (which seems to be gone on supers now) or thrash, but he is still good for a 2nd team to be swinging by a majin vegeta

It doesn't matter, king choppa can beat buu with lone wolf. SUPER broken :p:D:D

[the Joker0122]

i think that if you compare a lot of cards to villain cards, they aren't good, but that doesn't make it a bad card. i still think buu is pretty sick, because he is a lot easier to get out than cell, and has 5 support and a possible 8 attack on your turns. he does lack a nice ability like feirce (which seems to be gone on supers now) or thrash, but he is still good for a 2nd team to be swinging by a majin vegeta

Again, this dude clearly hasnt been here the last several pages lmao

[the Joker0122]

No, u kidding me?? King choppa is SUPER broke. So is accident!!

But the most broke of them all............ T5 goku STSR

T5 Goku is soooooooo broken!! =O

[DBZFan]

T5 Goku is soooooooo broken!! =O

Definantly trading my SS3 pull for that. Works perfect in my mono super deck :p


Villain, here i come!!!!!!!

[the Joker0122]

Definantly trading my SS3 pull for that. Works perfect in my mono super deck :p


Villain, here i come!!!!!!!

DUDE! I'll give you 2x of the T5 Goku for SS3 Goku!! No worries! :D :D

[DBZFan]

DUDE! I'll give you 2x of the T5 Goku for SS3 Goku!! No worries! :D :D

No trade backs! :p

[the Joker0122]

No trade backs! :p

DEAL!! :D:D

[soviet prince]

offtopic by a long shot :p, also shu is defintly the best card in the game :p

[the Joker0122]

offtopic by a long shot :p, also shu is defintly the best card in the game :p

Definately off topic :D

And if you have Shu you have to have Mai :p

[DBZFan]

And once again, if u have any card u have to have king choppa!!!!!!!!!

[soviet prince]

Dang I love preview time the boards are so much more active :D

Also trying to steer back on topic, Babadi really dissapoints the only think good about him is he is true to the uselessness he was in the show.

[DBZFan]

Dang I love preview time the boards are so much more active :D

Also trying to steer back on topic, Babadi really dissapoints the only think good about him is he is true to the uselessness he was in the show.

yah, i was expecting a SCR or king piccolo effect

[soviet prince]

tech it was like there effect but very bad

[LordxMugen]

yah, i was expecting a SCR or king piccolo effect

me too, but i think he has uses. at least im hoping i can find a use for him.

[soviet prince]

I know as toilet papaer :p

[the Joker0122]

To be honest. I expected Babidi to be like this:

Unique T0
No chi cost
Healthy: 0/2
Injured: 0/2
Effect[Valid]: Strategy|Action[DB]: Target warrior gains "brainwashed" and +1/+1.

I dont know something like that :p

[LordxMugen]

To be honest. I expected Babidi to be like this:

Unique T0
No chi cost
Healthy: 0/2
Injured: 0/2
Effect[Valid]: Strategy|Action[DB]: Target warrior gains "brainwashed" and +1/+1.

I dont know something like that :p
that totally makes sense. why not give him that?

[soviet prince]

Babadi needed the violet abilty

[swordmaster]

To be honest. I expected Babidi to be like this:

Unique T0
No chi cost
Healthy: 0/2
Injured: 0/2
Effect[Valid]: Strategy|Action[DB]: Target warrior gains "brainwashed" and +1/+1.

I dont know something like that :p

Add a unique chi to that and BAM! Thatshould be Babidi.

then Bibidi should have been

Unique T0
No chi cost
Healthy: 1/1
Injured: 1/0
Effect[Valid]|Strategy: Send this in play warrior to your chi area > Search your planet for one brainwashed character turn cost 3 or less reveal it and place it into your hand. Then shuffle your planet.

[Goggles123]

To be honest. I expected Babidi to be like this:

Unique T0
No chi cost
Healthy: 0/2
Injured: 0/2
Effect[Valid]: Strategy|Action[DB]: Target warrior gains "brainwashed" and +1/+1.

I dont know something like that :p

Amazing. Maybe drop it down to 0/1 and this card would do Babidi justice. It's like Bandai just gives up on some cards.

[theyellowdart]

Amazing. Maybe drop it down to 0/1 and this card would do Babidi justice. It's like Bandai just gives up on some cards.

you gotta remember that we're talking about a guy who screams: "MAJIN BUU IS AT FULL POWER!" my friend and i make fun of that all the time. :)

[CaMeRoN]

The other thing you guys need to remember is all the Brainwashed people are also evil tribe. So they would be getting a +1/+1 and another +1/+1 from King Piccolo. That could amount to a lot of headaches. Especially with the bigger drops.

[Shinfitz]

The other thing you guys need to remember is all the Brainwashed people are also evil tribe. So they would be getting a +1/+1 and another +1/+1 from King Piccolo. That could amount to a lot of headaches. Especially with the bigger drops.

Where are they getting the first +1/+1?

Doesn't Babidi give a 'Brainwashed' warrior +1/+0?

[majingogeta344]

The other thing you guys need to remember is all the Brainwashed people are also evil tribe. So they would be getting a +1/+1 and another +1/+1 from King Piccolo. That could amount to a lot of headaches. Especially with the bigger drops.

But Yamu and Spopovitch aren't even used anyway, so that would make them playable. And Majin Vegeta isn't Evil Tribe, is he?

[the Joker0122]

Amazing. Maybe drop it down to 0/1 and this card would do Babidi justice. It's like Bandai just gives up on some cards.

I know I loved it when I thought of it :)

[Snow]

But Yamu and Spopovitch aren't even used anyway, so that would make them playable. And Majin Vegeta isn't Evil Tribe, is he?

No, but Dabura is, and even if he was a like 6/1 tha'd make him an 8/3, and Babaidi, and Bibidi, plenty of them, in fact, are both. While I really WANTED to see a SCR in Babadi, I really didn't expect it.

I was simply hoping for a T1 2/2 healthy 0/2 injured character with Evil Tribe. I didn't really even care if he had an ability or not. I bet we'll have to wait until set 4 before we see another T1 for Unique. So disappointing. Bibidi or Babadi might ALMOSt be worth playing if they were able to go into that T1 slot. Sadly...

No, I really think that forcing the chi cost to get that additional boost was the correct way to go, or Unique would be overpowered next set.Your deck would literally be littered with characters that had at LEAST a 1/1 boost, and many that had more. It'd be like ... zomg.

[wildfire194]

I think its funny that everyone is saying that these cards are useless since we only have 2 brainwashed characters. Wednesday is going to preview more Brainwashed characters and we also have Majin Vegeta... way too early to say these cards are useless

[CaMeRoN]

Where are they getting the first +1/+1?

Doesn't Babidi give a 'Brainwashed' warrior +1/+0?

Okay so they get +1/+0 o.O Point still stands.

These cards are far from useless. Even if we don't get any decent brainwashed guys this set we will see them in the future.

[Noobfighterftw]

Buu i amazing, But I think slug will still be more effective.
Babidi is awful, butyou never know what someone could pull off with random cards.
Bibidi is ok, but not that great.
Ball of Seal Abso-F*#$ing-Lutely Godly, nuh said
Sorcery is not that great, at least with my expirience, but ditchng a card is still ditching a card. I like Villian 18's ability much better.

[the Joker0122]

Okay so they get +1/+0 o.O Point still stands.

These cards are far from useless. Even if we don't get any decent brainwashed guys this set we will see them in the future.

Hes clearly still reading my post on what I thought Babidi shouldve looked like >.>

[soviet prince]

well there is 3 brainwarshed charters left, so finnall judgement is tommorow.

[Demonsoldier1126]

well there is 3 brainwarshed charters left, so finnall judgement is tommorow.

Well everyone on here tends to forget, that if the characters I THINK are coming, then that will leave us with 6 brainwashed characters.

And we still don't know all the tech's or events, so we might get something now...or maybe even later.

So yeah, we'll see tomorrow.

[kamedragon]

majin buu is awesome, and the cards are getting better effects. Unfortunately though, naruto still has a lot more cards with better effects, so if it was naruto vs. dbz, naruto would still win. I hope we end up getting techniques with better effects for less chi.

[BalanceBJJ]

Can't you only use the last 3 sets in the match up

[majingogeta344]

majin buu is awesome, and the cards are getting better effects. Unfortunately though, naruto still has a lot more cards with better effects, so if it was naruto vs. dbz, naruto would still win. I hope we end up getting techniques with better effects for less chi.

I'd have to disagree. If it was Naruto v DB, DB would win since you can only use the last 3 sets of Naruto. I think someone should make a thread about it. It would be interesting.

[kamedragon]

oh, really? I didn't know that you could only use the last 3 sets. But, in my opinion, naruto has the jutsu power, whereas dragonball warriors have a lot more overall team power, especially with super heal. By the way, have there been any naruto vs. dragonball tourneys yet?

[majingogeta344]

oh, really? I didn't know that you could only use the last 3 sets. But, in my opinion, naruto has the jutsu power, whereas dragonball warriors have a lot more overall team power, especially with super heal. By the way, have there been any naruto vs. dragonball tourneys yet?

Well the main staples in Naruto are from earlier sets. Ex Trigrams, Vortex, Naruto [Legacy], Sakura [ADP], Kakashi [ES], etc.

[kamedragon]

that's true, but besides that point, i want to get more dragonball cards, however, they dont sell anything past the first set where i live. i could order them online, but there will be an extra shipping cost. the worst part is, no one plays around here so im not sure if i should continue getting dragonball cards.

[onlymymom]

I would run a prince deck in naruto vs DB which has everything it needs in the past 3 sets.

[Bibbo]

Well the main staples in Naruto are from earlier sets. Ex Trigrams, Vortex, Naruto [Legacy], Sakura [ADP], Kakashi [ES], etc.

but those are in set 9, at least some are

[Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Buu]

but those are in set 9, at least some are

Reprinted cards are not allowed.

[soviet prince]

yah, i was expecting a SCR or king piccolo effect

me too, but i think he has uses. at least im hoping i can find a use for him.

I think its funny that everyone is saying that these cards are useless since we only have 2 brainwashed characters. Wednesday is going to preview more Brainwashed characters and we also have Majin Vegeta... way too early to say these cards are useless

oh, really? I didn't know that you could only use the last 3 sets. But, in my opinion, naruto has the jutsu power, whereas dragonball warriors have a lot more overall team power, especially with super heal. By the way, have there been any naruto vs. dragonball tourneys yet?

how many boxes do you plan on buying?

[kamedragon]

how many boxes do you plan on buying?

so far i have the vegeta and ff frieza from the first set. I plan on buying at least one of the 3rd set, but am unsure if i should get any from the second set.

[SSJ Puar]

I would run a prince deck in naruto vs DB which has everything it needs in the past 3 sets.

Jeez, Prince is here as well..... First Naruto forums got dumber for having it introduced and now DB =/. Anyways, the only way Prince decks apparently work is with NvS which still isnt a competitive deck archetype right now.

[swordmaster]

I would say given maybe 3 more sets on naruto with the current power creep of the DBZ game the entire naruto game will be surpassed in power level by DBZ very soon. I mean it took 11 sets of naruto to finally get enough power cards to build an 18 power team, DBZ can do it 3rd set. Naruto has not even seen a 5 support yet lol. Basically, if naruto can beat DZ now it is due to direct damage that DBZ lacks early game. That is pretty much it.

[majingogeta344]

Jeez, Prince is here as well..... First Naruto forums got dumber for having it introduced and now DB =/. Anyways, the only way Prince decks apparently work is with NvS which still isnt a competitive deck archetype right now.

But it is vs DB since there are no Genin. They should've also put in the rules:

"Cards that Target opponent's Warriors/Ninjas with a certain rank are allowed."

[CaMeRoN]

But it is vs DB since there are no Genin. They should've also put in the rules:

"Cards that Target opponent's Warriors/Ninjas with a certain rank are allowed."

They did say "DragonBall CCG Warriros have no Mental Power (including Mental Power: 0)". So it's fair to assume that "DragonBall CCG warriors have no rank Genin" or "DragonBall CCG warriors have no rank Jonin".

[majingogeta344]

They did say "DragonBall CCG Warriros have no Mental Power (including Mental Power: 0)". So it's fair to assume that "DragonBall CCG warriors have no rank Genin" or "DragonBall CCG warriors have no rank Jonin".

Right, so therefore I could use Naruto vs Sasuke and you couldn't block me.

[CaMeRoN]

Right, so therefore I could use Naruto vs Sasuke and you couldn't block me.

I don't know any of the cards so I can't answer.

[blood-god]

it will only be the last 3 sets of naruto so that card will not be legal

[majingogeta344]

it will only be the last 3 sets of naruto so that card will not be legal

But it's a promo, so do they count?

[Bibbo]

But it's a promo, so do they count?

Is it in the last three sets of Naruto? If not, then no.

[majingogeta344]

Is it in the last three sets of Naruto? If not, then no.

Well a promo is a promo. They aren't released in sets. They are their own cards. Not reprints of cards, whole new ones.

[kamedragon]

have there been any naruto vs. dragonball tourneys? if not, when will there be?

[Bibbo]

They aren't released in sets.

There is your answer. If it is not from set 9, 10 or 11 then you can't use it.

[CaMeRoN]

have there been any naruto vs. dragonball tourneys? if not, when will there be?

Conventions will have them.

[theyellowdart]

Conventions will have them.

yeah, i saw a list of which convos will have them. i think it's somewhere on this website. i'll have to find it and post the link.

edit: here's the link.

http://www.bandaicg.com/dragonball/showthread.php?t=2288

[Ninja Pebble]

James said, I think in one of Snows podcast that card with specific names like target opponent's Genin or Mental power will not be included against DBZ, since there no such thing as Genins and Mental power in that game.

[swordmaster]

James said, I think in one of Snows podcast that card with specific names like target opponent's Genin or Mental power will not be included against DBZ, since there no such thing as Genins and Mental power in that game.

How can there be no genins? That makes no sense. That would be like saying there is no evil tribe.... whatever crossover sucks, not ment to be.

[Ninja Pebble]

How can there be no genins? That makes no sense. That would be like saying there is no evil tribe.... whatever crossover sucks, not ment to be.

I mean that DBZ warriors can not be targeted by cards that require a Genin or Jonin, etc. And this is what I remember James said.

[Bibbo]

I mean that DBZ warriors can not be targeted by cards that require a Genin or Jonin, etc. And this is what I remember James said.

Yeah, and you can still have cards that have Requirement: Genin, Jonin whatever as long as it doesn't target a Genin, Jonin or whatever

[majingogeta344]

Yeah, and you can still have cards that have Requirement: Genin, Jonin whatever as long as it doesn't target a Genin, Jonin or whatever

Where does it say that?

[Bibbo]

Where does it say that?

...Lemme try and find where I heard that it was either the podcast or some article...

well the rules were taken down so I can't double-check, therefore

I am assuming that Requirements of Genin, Jonin, etc. are acceptable because it doesn't affect the other game.

[WolfwoodTheCross]

How can there be no genins? That makes no sense. That would be like saying there is no evil tribe.... whatever crossover sucks, not ment to be.

Do you do anything but complain? Anyways they didn't remove Genin. They jsut banned any cards that reffer to it, or so it seemed

[swordmaster]

Do you do anything but complain? Anyways they didn't remove Genin. They jsut banned any cards that reffer to it, or so it seemed

What is your problem seriously? not really compaining at all, I can tell that if they banned cards for genin it would seriously hold back naruto. Personally I have no interest in playing such anyways, and I have never seen the rules. I have heard all these things like "no reprint cards" "no cards that target genin or require genin" "nothing before set 9" "have to play by DBZ rules" basically if you have to change a card game that much in order for them to exsist together, you might as well not play them imo. It looks like we disagree on many fronts Wolf but I am not complaining. I can't complain if I don't care that much.

Besides i agreed with you on your store being messed up charging you and ruchi like that, I don't see where you think i complain??

As far as majin goes I really don't see it being good save for maybe ball of seal, dadoria and majin buu which are amazing.

If you want positive feedback from me ask me how earth and villain did this set. They are positively amazing.