Evil Containment Wave

[DBZFan]

Does anyone find that evil containment wave is just like Stomping, only worse? It doesn't seem like it is worth playing. The reason i ask is because i am trying to decide wether or not to go mono unique or mono alien net set. I have 3 ECW, but i only have 1 stomping. ALso, i don't have any SR's now. What do u guys think?

[Baloo666]

ECW is better imo, you can us it to do some PD, use it after some one use a pump, many ways to use that card.

[scubadude]

Well here the pros and cons

Unique has pumps alien doesnt so that is the first thing to consider.

Next alien does have probally the 2 best removal cards like captured and stomping from that aspect.

Alien does have cards like big bang attack , gallic gun , and death ball the only problem is they are hard to get off and still you can see them coming with all their restrictions .

But more importantly the power in evil containment wave is great since after your opponent uses a lot of pumps on a certain warrior you can ECW it and then they lose it and all the pumps on a user. Those are the benefits with it true they will get the warrior back or maybe even a stronger warrior but the key is hitting the OV or taking out a blocker when you need to swarm awesome card.

Of course this is not considering the cards to come in the next 2 weeks.

[BalanceBJJ]

How is it like stomping but worse? Really not worth playing? I don't think you'll find a Unique deck without 2-3 in there

[DBZFan]

How is it like stomping but worse? Really not worth playing? I don't think you'll find a Unique deck without 2-3 in there

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[Snow]

I'm not even gonna dignify this question with a response.

[DBZFan]

I'm not even gonna dignify this question with a response.

:confused: What is wrong with this question? I've playtested both, and it seems that stomping is much better

[Jiu Jitsu Joe]

How is Stomping anywhere near as good? First of all, Stomping is during the strategy step, so there is no surprise. And ECW is during the action step and all you need is for your opponent to attempt to chump block and the damage goes through. ECW is an awesome card IMO. Especially when your opponent has 8 planet damage.

[Demonic Genocide]

I'm not even gonna dignify this question with a response.

Why did you post anything at all? Why do people have to act like this:confused:? I dont get it. He is honestly asking for help and then you get people that do this. This turns players off to card games. Players should be helping one another not spamming comments like this. Players should be trying to improve their competition to make themselves better, not put them down.

Anyway each have their advantages. ECW is action and can get you PD, but on the same note your opponent could put a better warrior into play. Stomping on the other hand is earlier, doesnt require a DB coin either, and is less specific chi required to use it so its easier to play in a dual build.

[DBZFan]

Why did you post anything at all? Why do people have to act like this:confused:? I dont get it. He is honestly asking for help and then you get people that do this. This turns players off to card games. Players should be helping one another not spamming comments like this. Players should be trying to improve their competition to make themselves better, not put them down.

Anyway each have their advantages. ECW is action and can get you PD, but on the same note your opponent could put a better warrior into play. Stomping on the other hand is earlier, doesnt require a DB coin either, and is less specific chi required to use it so its easier to play in a dual build.

Thank you, that was the answer to my question i was looking for

[soviet prince]

props to demonic

[Snow]

Why did you post anything at all? Why do people have to act like this:confused:? I dont get it. He is honestly asking for help and then you get people that do this. This turns players off to card games. Players should be helping one another not spamming comments like this. Players should be trying to improve their competition to make themselves better, not put them down.

Anyway each have their advantages. ECW is action and can get you PD, but on the same note your opponent could put a better warrior into play. Stomping on the other hand is earlier, doesnt require a DB coin either, and is less specific chi required to use it so its easier to play in a dual build.

First off, I answered this question in such a matter for multiple reasons. DBZFan is not a stupid player, so shouldn't be asking questions that have absolutely no validity. Is Evil Containment Wave Alien? Is Stomping Unique? No to both. There's little reason to even COMPARE them, unless your suggesting running a Unique/Alien dual this set, which isn't advisable. On top of that, DBZFan listens to Dragonball Radio, which addressed this exact question over 2 months ago. ADDITIONALLY, this is frustration at silly questions and comments that have been flooding the board from "How many ways can we complain about Villain" to "lets ask a question comparing cards that shouldn't be compared!" How about I compare Four Witches Technique to Evil Wave Explosion?! They both increase support stats. But fine, if you want a repetitive answer to a question you should be able to solve, I'll give them to you.

Evil Containment Wave comes out on Turn 5, most of your opponent's endgame warriors would/should/could be out at a point like this, so there really is no fear of a super strong warrior taking it's place. The only cards to be wary of are Perfect Cell, Final Form Frieza, SS3 Goku, and Majin Vegeta. While that's almost a warrior per element, you have to remember that you've probably just OV'd your opponent's biggest team (which is when I'd suggest to use this, unless your opponent has 8 pd and is chump blocking), leaving his/her support warriors shattered.

Stomping, on the other hand, other than being a totally different element and probably not IN your UNIQUE deck, also happens to be Strategy. I'm a big advocate against Strategy cards that last a single turn, because your opponent can see everything coming to them, and you probably will benefit from this less. Stomping IS great in rush decks, but other than that, not so much. Also, this card just removes them from the team, not sends them to their hand, which can have an adverse effect if your opponent pulls off a Spirit Bomb or some sort.

Stomping and Evil Containment Wave both have their uses, usually in their respective decks, where they should remain. Sorry if I came across as a jerk, but DBZFan, you really are too good and frequent a player to have to ask a question like that. In addition, what's the point to a question that is simply an individual's opinion? Me liking or disliking a card won't make you like or dislike it any more. Or rather, it shouldn't.

[soviet prince]

lol way to go getting more listners :p

the reasion you got these neg responce snow is becuse you post was neg. and you sound like your have an elitest attidude. :D.

[Snow]

lol way to go getting more listners :p

the reasion you got these neg responce snow is becuse you post was neg. and you sound like your have an elitest attidude. :D. I also like how you im me insulting me becuse I disagre with you about flaming the op.


lol thanks. And I can be a dick.

[swordmaster]

well on the matter of ECW I do have a sleight problem with it. I find that any warrior they drop can turn the tech on its user. Just the other day, played ECW to stop a team of android 19, android 20 and tao. with src in play I unfortunately had only a team of yamcha gohan ssj and kami i needed to play something to turn the game around so i evil containment waved android 20 after he tried to ov me with 4 witches but it just injured tao, then next turn I was facing cell 2nd form, android 19 and 20 his strongest team. He four witched again when I tried to realign my team to injure gohan and oved me, it was over then.

Basically what i am saying is ECW is good not really amazing and can end the game for you quickly. Bad or good result

[BalanceBJJ]

Just the other day, played ECW to stop a team of android 19, android 20 and tao. with src in play I unfortunately had only a team of yamcha gohan ssj and kami i needed to play something to turn the game around so i evil containment waved android 20 after he tried to ov me with 4 witches but it just injured tao, then next turn I was facing cell 2nd form, android 19 and 20 his strongest team. He four witched again when I tried to realign my team to injure gohan and oved me, it was over then.

So had you not played the ECW you would have been OV'd in the first place. Secondly as long as he had chi he would have been able to deploy Cell normally on his turn anyway.

There was no downside to ECW in the example you gave, the outcome was the same except you gave yourself a chance.

[Demonic Genocide]

lol thanks. And I can be a dick.

Nice snow. I have no beef with you I think your a cool guy. I just misunderstood your comment. I just see stuff like that in other games and it erks me cuz I see how it can turn players off to the game. I didnt mean any disrespect to you. You know way more about the game than I do or will know. Great job of explaining your points.

[DBZFan]

DBZFan is not a stupid player

Thank you Snow:cool:


In addition, what's the point to a question that is simply an individual's opinion? Me liking or disliking a card won't make you like or dislike it any more. Or rather, it shouldn't.

But here is the thing, i had a question, and i wanted the players opinion. I Know Ur's Snow, But that doesn't mean u have to act like a Mr. meany pants just because ur deck goes >9000. Plus, i like to hear from everybody, there are a lot of people who arn't on DB Radio who are good players and would not hurt to hear what they have to say.

But No worries Snow, we still cool:cool:
i just didn;t know dumb questions got on ur nerves lol. U might need to get use to this from now on....... I ask the dumbest questions sometimes.


U guys will really love me when i ask about side decks;)

[DBZFan]

And Btw Snow, i've been putting up with dumb topics about how villain is "Broken" too.

[Snow]

Here's an example of Evil Containment Wave. Unique at the moment is not very chi heavy. I played KingJwon06's Super/Unique fun deck today. We were just messing around. Two games in a row I won because I double ECW'd a team of two for the win. Once time I ECW'd a single team for 2 PD, next turn, used two more against a team of two for a win. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

[majingogeta344]

Here's an example of Evil Containment Wave. Unique at the moment is not very chi heavy. I played KingJwon06's Super/Unique fun deck today. We were just messing around. Two games in a row I won because I double ECW'd a team of two for the win. Once time I ECW'd a single team for 2 PD, next turn, used two more against a team of two for a win. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Where'd you get all that Chi?

[Snow]

I charge off the top a lot with Unique, since I run double reviving power's for survivability. Dunno how easy it'll be to keep those in the deck next set tho. Also, I'd JUST used Dende's Wish.

[kingjwon06]

I charge off the top a lot with Unique, since I run double reviving power's for survivability. Dunno how easy it'll be to keep those in the deck next set tho. Also, I'd JUST used Dende's Wish.

yea thats how u drew THREE ECW's.. ridiculous....

[CaMeRoN]

Honestly guys, Stomping and Evil Containment Wave is a random comparison.

Evil Containment Wave is a great card. It has a lot more uses than Stomping and is far more devastating. With Evil Containment Wave you can fizzle your opponents technique, force an overwhelming victory, and essentially win the game through those means.

Stomping is basically used to deal planet damage. You could use it as an aggressive means to attack with 3 teams but you aren't really dealing with the problem that way.

I like Evil Containment Wave better because it has more potential than Stomping. Though I do think Stomping has potential in its own way but not as much as Evil Containment Wave. :)

[Piccolo'sDad]

I charge off the top a lot with Unique, since I run double reviving power's for survivability. Dunno how easy it'll be to keep those in the deck next set tho. Also, I'd JUST used Dende's Wish.

Plus, if you ever have nothing to deploy since all your in hand warriors are in play already, you can still Try to deploy one from your hand anyways and Game Mechanics sends it to chi. I do this a lot late game + charge off the top of the deck to mass Chi without losing hand advantage too much.

[BalanceBJJ]

Plus, if you ever have nothing to deploy since all your in hand warriors are in play already, you can still Try to deploy one from your hand anyways and Game Mechanics sends it to chi. I do this a lot late game + charge off the top of the deck to mass Chi without losing hand advantage too much.

http://www.bandaicg.com/dragonball/showthread.php?t=2284

You've been playing a tad wrong, it only works like that if the warrior comes in via effect as per the rulebook

[CaMeRoN]

Well I guess its better to learn now than at a big event :)

[Snow]

Aren't we glad that I asked? ^^

[the Joker0122]

Does anyone find that evil containment wave is just like Stomping, only worse? It doesn't seem like it is worth playing. The reason i ask is because i am trying to decide wether or not to go mono unique or mono alien net set. I have 3 ECW, but i only have 1 stomping. ALso, i don't have any SR's now. What do u guys think?

ECW is so much better than stomping. They both do the same thing, but stomping is an Attacker|Strategy card whereas ECW is an Action card. With Unique you can use it out their best team taking out FFF, Cell 2nd Form, SS Goku, etc. and they wont know thats what your plan was. Whereas with Alien you know that Stomping was played and you can still choose how to defend it.

Id rather get hit with Stomping than ECW any day

[soviet prince]

the both have there strengths and weakness in a given deck, but it you just go on effect and not the symbol requirements then I like ECW better, Because you can use it to surprise your opponent destroying his entire team giving you the advantage throughout the game.

[the Joker0122]

the both have there strengths and weakness in a given deck, but it you just go on effect and not the symbol requirements then I like ECW better, Because you can use it to surprise your opponent destroying his entire team giving you the advantage throughout the game.

Exactly. I think Stomping is more for a game ender. Use Stomping and either put out Gen. Blue or play Captured and you will pretty much be set to win the game that turn.

[scubadude]

Exactly. I think Stomping is more for a game ender. Use Stomping and either put out Gen. Blue or play Captured and you will pretty much be set to win the game that turn.

RIght i think stomping and captured is the only thing making alien playable when set 3 comes out .

[the Joker0122]

RIght i think stomping and captured is the only thing making alien playable when set 3 comes out .

It will always be playable, but it has no pump techs yet. I think once it gets those it will possibly be better than villain.

[DBZFan]

It will always be playable, but it has no pump techs yet. I think once it gets those it will possibly be better than villain.

Alien did get a pump

[the Joker0122]

Alien did get a pump

Which? I forget lol I never use it :p

[Snow]

Alien did get a pump

Body change is not a pump in my opinion, a pump itself can't really be modified, this can be modified too easily. Plus, your opponent's head warrior can technically have less attack than you. Also, does this mean Combination will actually have a purpose?!?!

[the Joker0122]

Body change is not a pump in my opinion, a pump itself can't really be modified, this can be modified too easily. Plus, your opponent's head warrior can technically have less attack than you. Also, does this mean Combination will actually have a purpose?!?!

Can someone send me a link for Body Change? Ive never seen it! lol

[DBZFan]

Body change is not a pump in my opinion, a pump itself can't really be modified, this can be modified too easily. Plus, your opponent's head warrior can technically have less attack than you. Also, does this mean Combination will actually have a purpose?!?!

No, not that. That one event that really sucks, the one where you have to pay like 3 chi agest a turn 5 warrior. The other world turny is what it is called

[scubadude]

I dunno if i would go as far and say they will be on the same powerlevel as villain .

Even if alien gets something similar to 4 witches the general drops it has now with set 3 might be the best except for its turn 0 .

[the Joker0122]

I dunno if i would go as far and say they will be on the same powerlevel as villain .

Even if alien gets something similar to 4 witches the general drops it has now with set 3 might be the best except for its turn 0 .

If it can remove villains warriors, and hit hard, it seems like it will be better :p

[scubadude]

If it can remove villains warriors, and hit hard, it seems like it will be better :p

Maybe stompdown will give villain trouble early but if it goes past turn 5 I think its all villain right now .

[the Joker0122]

Maybe stompdown will give villain trouble early but if it goes past turn 5 I think its all villain right now .

Eh.. maybe, there are so many things that can stand up to villain. Villain as of set 2 has the finishing power. Once set 3 comes out, all the other colors will have a finishing power as well and be able to handle villain.

[soviet prince]

Can someone send me a link for Body Change? Ive never seen it! lol

I have it up on my card list in the sticky

[the Joker0122]

I have it up on my card list in the sticky

Sweet! I'll go check it out now! :D

[the Joker0122]

Thats such a sweet card!! :D

[soviet prince]

the art of it is amazing by itself

[the Joker0122]

the art of it is amazing by itself

Definately!! I love it and am opting to running an Alien deck now!! :D

[Snow]

Maybe stompdown will give villain trouble early but if it goes past turn 5 I think its all villain right now .

Have you seen how a Stompdown deck decimates Villain? Villain is great and all, but it still is weak to the early rush. Ok, on turn 5 you can have some big giant team, but I've now gotten you to 8 planet damage, so I'll split my teams up, capture one of your other teams, and swing with 3 5's. Good game.

[the Joker0122]

Have you seen how a Stompdown deck decimates Villain? Villain is great and all, but it still is weak to the early rush. Ok, on turn 5 you can have some big giant team, but I've now gotten you to 8 planet damage, so I'll split my teams up, capture one of your other teams, and swing with 3 5's. Good game.

Well said lol :D

[scubadude]

Have you seen how a Stompdown deck decimates Villain? Villain is great and all, but it still is weak to the early rush. Ok, on turn 5 you can have some big giant team, but I've now gotten you to 8 planet damage, so I'll split my teams up, capture one of your other teams, and swing with 3 5's. Good game.

Ive seen that happen a lot true but it doesnt always work out that way is what im saying . But until set 3 hits stomp down is definately the hardest match for mono villain .

[swordmaster]

I really don't see that stompdown could effect villain. captured is turn 4. by then I can still have a 12 on the field with at least 3 other characters so you capture one of my teams I can still chump with several different turn cards. Body change will mess my techs up though, do have to be careful but it will mess up unique and super pretty bad too. Stomping is turn 3 not a huge concern if you try and rush me a little bit of smart team changing and I really have nothing to worry about.