Android Theme discussion

[theyellowdart]

my favorite were android 16 (love how he keeps his stats) and hell flash (-5/-5 is good for ov potential). i wasn't too excited about the other cards. what do you guys think?

[scubadude]

my favorite were android 16 (love how he keeps his stats) and hell flash (-5/-5 is good for ov potential). i wasn't too excited about the other cards. what do you guys think?

I wish rocket punch had a easier requirement but oh well. I am still dissapointed I was hoping he would have been earth. But hes kinda like a buffed up 17 keeping his stats and having toughness and thrash never hurts

[theyellowdart]

well, they could make an earth version of him later. they just did that with android 18 this set. so, don't lose hope, scubadude.

[Rastas4Jesus09]

Android 16- Awesome warrior, very strong and good abilities, although somewhat costly to be put into play, will make a nice compliment to cell in any villian deck

The Only Aim- Pretty good effect but possibly harder to pull off than it may seem, does not work at all if u are not winning the game anyway

Android Project- OK, reminds me of the Lessons of master roshi event for super, could be usefull but i don't think many people will be giving up deck spots for it

Rocket Punch- Once again not a bad card but i don't think i would give up a deck spot for it, almost too situational to be too usefull especially if u don't run senzu bean

Hell Flash- Amazing effect but being used in the strategy step hurts it a lot and lets ur opponent just chump block, if it as used in the action step i can see it justifing the super rare status but as it is, its just pretty good

[superandroid21]

i really cant find a non playable card out of all of them. there are better cards but all are playable to some degree or another

[texans07]

Hell Flash is actually Action not strategy. Sorry about that. :D

[theyellowdart]

that makes it better. definitely worthy of a super rare.

[Rastas4Jesus09]

wow that makes it about 9,001 times better

[AlexStoryteller]

Well that makes it official.. DB is now completely broken. Good job for giving all of the best cards in one set to one style that was already winning the tourneys. Just when I was vouching for this ccg having a multitude of decks to run.. You release even more overpowered cards for the same style.

[Equinox123]

Android 16- Beefy warrior. A little costly, but I think im still going to run SS Vegeta.

The Only Aim-Can be very useful, however I wouldn't want to waste deck space for it :/

Android Project- Nice pump event, but not enough androids to make it deck worthy.

Rocket Punch- Nice effect, depends what your deck tends to do the most. There are more techniques to use depending on what choices you make the most during combat.

Hell Flash- Now that it is used during [Action], it is very worthy of super rare status. Only downside is android requirement.
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[scubadude]

Hell Flash is actually Action not strategy. Sorry about that. :D

WOW that is huge god **** typos went from a blah card to a OMG card!!

[Ninja Pebble]

16 Yay!!!.... ;D

[BalanceBJJ]

Villain just keep getting it poured on, I mean its starting to get a little frustrating. The other colors get small bumps that slowly fill gaps they had, and villain just get everything they could ever want. Tons of great 0-2 drops to help with the rush, a tempo card, more solid late game warriors, and then more absurdly powerful pumps.

Is Hell Flash really a Super Rare?

[JoseG]

Well that makes it official.. DB is now completely broken. Good job for giving all of the best cards in one set to one style that was already winning the tourneys. Just when I was vouching for this ccg having a multitude of decks to run.. You release even more overpowered cards for the same style.

I agree with you, those cards are overpowered and I dont know how you can counter those cards. I have a super deck but it sucks that the main characters suck at tournaments.

[Ninja Pebble]

WHAT!!!!!!!! Hells no!! Its Action! This is the one style that didn't need a +5 to there team mainly... Wow it better be a SR I want it hard to get. If it was a rare any noob can pick up this deck and start winning.:mad::mad::mad:

[Raikiribokken]

So, is it official? Can you drop a warrior's stats to a negative value? Just asking cuz the meijin in my store said you can't when i used Reversal

[theyellowdart]

since hell flash is a beam tech, there are several counters to it. even if it wasn't, you could still counter it. (although it would be harder.) one example of an easy counter to most techs is microminiaturizer.

[CaMeRoN]

So, is it official? Can you drop a warrior's stats to a negative value? Just asking cuz the meijin in my store said you can't when i used Reversal

A warriors stats can go negative but if you calculate team power and it is negative then the team power is treated as 0.

[DragonFist]

all i can say is...android 16 is freakin sweet.

[DBZ]

SWEET! Hell Flash is really Action than? YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY



I'm coming back to the game this set and stopped a little after 1, so gonna buy 2 boxes or so, couple packs at pre-release, and than trade for new stuff or even some old stuff from 1 or 2.

[DBZFan]

Awsome cards, sooooooooooooo glad i made the switch to mono villain :D:D:D


And Hell flash since it is action is worth the SR. Take that majin buu!!!!!!!!!!!

the event and andriod 16 are going in my deck

[Ninja Pebble]

In less more stuff we haven't seen comes out for the other styles to make them much much stronger, Villain will win the first Big tournament with no competition. I'm guessing 60-70% of the decks will be some kinda Villain deck type.

[DBZFan]

In less more stuff we haven't seen comes out for the other styles to make them much much stronger, Villain will win the first Big tournament with no competition. I'm guessing 60-70% of the decks will be some kinda Villain deck type.

Ehhhhhhhhhhhh, we can't forget the rush deck to counter mono villain. And seriously, mono unique will be AMAZING with all the new cards. Wish i wouldn't have traded my king piccolos now..........:(

[BalanceBJJ]

How vunerable is Villain to a rush now? I mean yeah they can't make a 5 turn 1, but turn 2 and on they have some of the best warriors, they also have a card that gives you extra warriors, stalling cards, and pumps

And unless Unique gets a good 1,2, and 4 drop they still have these giant holes in thier curve.

[Piccolo'sDad]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhh, we can't forget the rush deck to counter mono villain.

Muscle Tower says you aren't rushing me anytime soon.

I'll admit, Villain is looking awesome this set. But, I'm a Unique man through and through.

In other news, every Symbol But Alien has a Thrash 1 guy so far. So who do you think will be their Thrasher? I'd laugh if it's Mecha Freiza, since he, you know, died pretty hard and pretty fast.

[onlymymom]

Nothing is too overpowered or broken yet guys. Hell Flash is definitely very good but in a sense is actually a worse version of Chidori, Lightning Blade or Rasengan for anyone that plays naruto. It is however one of the best techniques in the game now but isn't that overpowered.

[Raikiribokken]

Muscle Tower says you aren't rushing me anytime soon.

I'll admit, Villain is looking awesome this set. But, I'm a Unique man through and through.

In other news, every Symbol But Alien has a Thrash 1 guy so far. So who do you think will be their Thrasher? I'd laugh if it's Mecha Freiza, since he, you know, died pretty hard and pretty fast.

well, tecnically, Frieza [Full Power Form] was the first warrior with Thrash...:p:D:cool:

[majingogeta344]

Rocket Punch only works if someone used a damaging tech on you, right? Since the Action Phase ends before the Showdown.

[Ninja Pebble]

Nothing is too overpowered or broken yet guys. Hell Flash is definitely very good but in a sense is actually a worse version of Chidori, Lightning Blade or Rasengan for anyone that plays naruto. It is however one of the best techniques in the game now but isn't that overpowered.

Its not Broken cuz of its effect. Its broken cuz of it style(Villain). Villain all ready had super tech's. This one is just super dooper! And its the best tech made, over playability and stuff.

[Dragon King]

Rocket Punch only works if someone used a damaging tech on you, right? Since the Action Phase ends before the Showdown.

Rocket Punch stinks it's too hard to use and it isn't even that good now Hell Flash that's a technique! not worth Super though

[ruichi]

Nothing is too overpowered or broken yet guys. Hell Flash is definitely very good but in a sense is actually a worse version of Chidori, Lightning Blade or Rasengan for anyone that plays naruto. It is however one of the best techniques in the game now but isn't that overpowered.

but Chidori, Lightning Blade or Rasengan are in every playable deck.....

[wildfire194]

I love how every Villian Tech can't be stoped my Monster Carrot exept for Four Witches. Red Ribbon Android Deck for the win :D

[onlymymom]

but Chidori, Lightning Blade or Rasengan are in every playable deck.....

That's not true because water is also a very played deck, and I run a very good fire deck without using chidori or LB. Also all of the other +5 pumps are actually not played much at all. So no one should be calling this broken/overpowered.

Its not Broken cuz of its effect. Its broken cuz of it style(Villain). Villain all ready had super tech's. This one is just super dooper! And its the best tech made, over playability and stuff.

Villain isn't broken, it just got a huge boost. Plus wait for other elements to be previewed, who knows what can happen.

[dunpeal2064]

the big problem is that villain is already broken. the current villain deck can be top notch with running even one cell 2nd form, which means you have to get one SR to have the best deck going right now.

plus, IMO none of the preveiwed cards from other sets so far are anywhere near villain. I really hope alien shows some cool stuff here soon, i was pretty disappointed with majin vegeta, since SS vegeta is better in my deck >.<

[onlymymom]

the big problem is that villain is already broken. the current villain deck can be top notch with running even one cell 2nd form, which means you have to get one SR to have the best deck going right now.

plus, IMO none of the preveiwed cards from other sets so far are anywhere near villain. I really hope alien shows some cool stuff here soon, i was pretty disappointed with majin vegeta, since SS vegeta is better in my deck >.<
No matter what happens everyone complains. Alien already has some great cards. I would much prefer super and earth getting good stuff, they need it. Villain is NOT broken - it is just very good because it is getting every card/theme it needs. I am sure a good unique or alien deck can beat it though.

[DBZFan]

Muscle Tower says you aren't rushing me anytime soon.

I'll admit, Villain is looking awesome this set. But, I'm a Unique man through and through.



Well, that's only if u draw MT, and what is that? turn 3? U should be killing off opponents by ur turn 3 fast for rush.

and if ur a unique fan, then you can see why villain isn't broken. In my mind, it is a battle this set to see which will come out on top, unique or villain, and bandai kinda put every other one on the back burner. To tell the truth, i wanna see earth get this good.

[BalanceBJJ]

Muscle Tower is turn 1

And seriously what about Unique's additions scream Villain bashing, it's an even match right now, but Villain looks to be getting its gaps filled better with Unique getting only slight bumps

[soviet prince]

Android16: decent not the best but keeps his stats.
rocketpunch: to situational lots of better tech to run.
Hellflash: very good super rare, -5,-5 is beasty
Android project: seeing it being good in the future when more androids are around
onlyaim: most likey your opponet will have gotten rid of the card by the time this event effect kicks off unless your running launch and there is really no room at the 0 drop for villian to run her.

Also the next time I hear the word broken a kitten will die, think about the kittens before you post :p

[Bibbo]

Android16: decent not the best but keeps his stats.
rocketpunch: to situational lots of better tech to run.
Hellflash: very good super rare, -5,-5 is beasty
Android project: seeing it being good in the future when more androids are around
onlyaim: most likey your opponet will have gotten rid of the card by the time this event effect kicks off unless your running launch and there is really no room at the 0 drop for villian to run her.

Also the next time I hear the word broken a kitten will die, think about the kittens before you post :p

I have a broken tool in my house

[swordmaster]

Android 16 - decent costly would rather play cell and does not have RR I would not play him.

the only aim - really will not play it there are much better cards

android project - not really a need to play this, but it can boost cell so I might deck it.

Rocket punch - too costly not good at all

Hell flash - OMFGDIFEOISFDLKFAIE!!!!!!!!!!! I just slammed my head into my keyboard. This card is dumb villain gets a turn 4 card that equals the super kamehameha imo actually I would run this over super kamehameha if they were same turn cost and same style. I really hate villain it gets the best cards. Masenko is turn 5 and you don't even get to choose who it hits WTF bandai WTF!!!!!!!

[wildfire194]

Android 16 - decent costly would rather play cell and does not have RR I would not play him.

the only aim - really will not play it there are much better cards

android project - not really a need to play this, but it can boost cell so I might deck it.

Rocket punch - too costly not good at all

Hell flash - OMFGDIFEOISFDLKFAIE!!!!!!!!!!! I just slammed my head into my keyboard. This card is dumb villain gets a turn 4 card that equals the super kamehameha imo actually I would run this over super kamehameha if they were same turn cost and same style. I really hate villain it gets the best cards. Masenko is turn 5 and you don't even get to choose who it hits WTF bandai WTF!!!!!!!

I believe that Bandai is afraid to make Super (all the heros of the show) too powerful so they underpower them and for some weird reason give other elements like Villian these very powerful cards that scream out "It's good to be bad!"

[BalanceBJJ]

Hell Flash does more with it's -5, then Gallic Gun does actually hurting most warriors

[Phaxion]

Hell Flash does more with it's -5, then Gallic Gun does actually hurting most warriors

... word ...

[Makeshift Ghost]

I believe that Bandai is afraid to make Super (all the heros of the show) too powerful so they underpower them and for some weird reason give other elements like Villian these very powerful cards that scream out "It's good to be bad!"

Thats why super isn't the best right now, cause it does have the strongest warriors, SSJ4 Goku, if he isn't the strongest warrior by himself, then this game is going to be dumb, cause they still have to tie in some of the show, cause having a Fat buu still be able to beat SSJ 4 would be ridiculous, I know its not like the show but come on, most of the people watch the show and look for certain warriors to be the strongest.
Super will be one of the strongest or the strongest by set 4-5 becuase of the warriors it has coming up (Gotanks, Gogeta, Vegito, SSJ 4 Goku/Vegeta (he may be alien but have to wait and see)).

[swordmaster]

the show is the show but card games work differently. if gogeta is a turn 9 fusion character which requires vegeta and goku to be in play and is discarded 3 turns after he is played I don't care if he is a 10/10, he is not going to be playable. Basically, if they make fusion a disad and make the fusion warriors late game, the game will never reach that point. Maybe if you recycle emmissions then maybe but i don't see it. bandai is trying to do something for the style that I don't think will pan out. but that is then, and this is now, super is bad now whether it will be bad next set we will see.

[paulsmits3950]

the show is the show but card games work differently. if gogeta is a turn 9 fusion character which requires vegeta and goku to be in play and is discarded 3 turns after he is played I don't care if he is a 10/10, he is not going to be playable. Basically, if they make fusion a disad and make the fusion warriors late game, the game will never reach that point. Maybe if you recycle emmissions then maybe but i don't see it. bandai is trying to do something for the style that I don't think will pan out. but that is then, and this is now, super is bad now whether it will be bad next set we will see.


With techinques and events to bring out vegito, gogeta and gotenks, turn cost does really matter.
If you play naruto, gamabunta, shukaku (gaara sand demon) and double head wolf can be drop on turn 1. so there.
only thing you have to pay is maybe chi cost, i hope not.