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swordmaster
01-06-2009, 08:51 AM
I tried to post this in Q & A thread but Mr.Goku must be on vacation. I need it answered before this Wednesday's tournament can anyone plz help.

First question is:
Does "Selection of the Race" send warriors to your chi or discard pile.

A second question is, my friend is confused about evolution, he states that the evolution ability works multiple times in a round if you are using the same character. in other words he is trying to play frieza turn 7, then evolving and evolving again into final form frieza. is this possible and is he correct?

This is what is confusing.

Evolution X: A
[Strategy | Attacker | Valid] - > If your turn Marker is X or greater and you have an "A" Warrior card (a Warrior card which has a name of A) in your hand, you can switch this Warrior with that Warrior card from your hand.
*A player can apply this Evolution to a Warrior that is deployed or put into play in the same turn.
*The new Warrior that is put into play in this way takes over all the DB coins of the original Warrior.
However, status, all the other effects and coins are not taken over to the new Warrior.
*A player can perform this Evolution only once per turn.
*Putting a Warrior in this way is not considered as "Deployment of a Warrior".

The Highlighted is confusing me cause does "this evolution" mean just A to B (ie; frieza to frieza 2nd form is once per turn) so you could for instance go to 3rd form as long as you don't re-evolve to 2nd form, or does it mean all evolutions (so you can only evolve 1 character per turn), or does it mean you can only evolve that character once per turn (ie; you could not evolve frieza to frieza 2nd form then to 3rd form, but you could evolve zarbon in the same turn)??

ruichi
01-06-2009, 09:00 AM
First question is:
Does "Selection of the Race" send warriors to your chi or discard pile.

it sends them to your chi because anytime a warrior would be discard it is now sent to chi

second question is, my friend is confused about evolution, he states that the evolution ability works multiple times in a round if you are using the same character. in other words he is trying to play frieza turn 7, then evolving and evolving again into final form frieza. is this possible and is he correct?

yes he can use evolution like that because after he picks up the warrior and sets down the new one he is a new warrior and can use his evolution. the A player can perform this Evolution only once per turn thing iam thinking if for when one day a card comes out that negates evolution

wildfire194
01-06-2009, 09:24 AM
I tried to post this in Q & A thread but Mr.Goku must be on vacation. I need it answered before this Wednesday's tournament can anyone plz help.

First question is:
Does "Selection of the Race" send warriors to your chi or discard pile.
The warrior is Discarded. The warrior would only be sent to the chi if Selection of the Race said "send one warrior you control to the chi area..."
A second question is, my friend is confused about evolution, he states that the evolution ability works multiple times in a round if you are using the same character. in other words he is trying to play frieza turn 7, then evolving and evolving again into final form frieza. is this possible and is he correct?

This is what is confusing.

Evolution X: A
[Strategy | Attacker | Valid] - > If your turn Marker is X or greater and you have an "A" Warrior card (a Warrior card which has a name of A) in your hand, you can switch this Warrior with that Warrior card from your hand.
*A player can apply this Evolution to a Warrior that is deployed or put into play in the same turn.
*The new Warrior that is put into play in this way takes over all the DB coins of the original Warrior.
However, status, all the other effects and coins are not taken over to the new Warrior.
*A player can perform this Evolution only once per turn.
*Putting a Warrior in this way is not considered as "Deployment of a Warrior".

The Highlighted is confusing me cause does "this evolution" mean just A to B (ie; frieza to frieza 2nd form is once per turn) so you could for instance go to 3rd form as long as you don't re-evolve to 2nd form, or does it mean all evolutions (so you can only evolve 1 character per turn), or does it mean you can only evolve that character once per turn (ie; you could not evolve frieza to frieza 2nd form then to 3rd form, but you could evolve zarbon in the same turn)??
You can only use Evolution once per turn per warrior. Meaning that if I have a Frieza (WA-024) in play and my turn maker is 4, I can which him with a Frieza (the 2nd Form) from my hand, but I can not use Evolution again that turn since I aready used it with Frieza

Answers in quotes

First question is:
Does "Selection of the Race" send warriors to your chi or discard pile.

it sends them to your chi because anytime a warrior would be discard it is now sent to chi

second question is, my friend is confused about evolution, he states that the evolution ability works multiple times in a round if you are using the same character. in other words he is trying to play frieza turn 7, then evolving and evolving again into final form frieza. is this possible and is he correct?

yes he can use evolution like that because after he picks up the warrior and sets down the new one he is a new warrior and can use his evolution. the A player can perform this Evolution only once per turn thing iam thinking if for when one day a card comes out that negates evolution Please don't give answers to questions if you don't know the rules. Discard is not the same as adding to the chi. Thank you

Ninja Pebble
01-06-2009, 12:01 PM
Answers in quotes

Please don't give answers to questions if you don't know the rules. Discard is not the same as adding to the chi. Thank you
Actually I remember Mr. Goku stated that if you discard a warrior in less specified to the discard pile it goes to the chi. All try to find this ruling and post it here.
To the other one you can evo. only one's per turn. No Frieza and Zardon evoing. All look for this ruling too.

Edit
Here is the ruling on Discarding! (http://www.bandaicg.com/dragonball/showthread.php?t=2112)
Found nothing on Evo, so you will have to wait till a ruling.

canti
01-06-2009, 12:49 PM
Actually I remember Mr. Goku stated that if you discard a warrior in less specified to the discard pile it goes to the chi. All try to find this ruling and post it here.
To the other one you can evo. only one's per turn. No Frieza and Zardon evoing. All look for this ruling too.

Edit
Here is the ruling on Discarding! (http://www.bandaicg.com/dragonball/showthread.php?t=2112)
Found nothing on Evo, so you will have to wait till a ruling.

i was going to link to the same question. Whenever you discard a warrior that is in play it goes to the chi area, if it is from your hand it goes the discard pile.
I found it really rude how wildfire responded to ruichi. Accusing him of not knowing the rules while all he is doing is trying to help a fellow player out who has not gotten his question answered after almost a week.

Goggles123
01-06-2009, 01:01 PM
A second question is, my friend is confused about evolution, he states that the evolution ability works multiple times in a round if you are using the same character. in other words he is trying to play frieza turn 7, then evolving and evolving again into final form frieza. is this possible and is he correct?

Personally I think it's quite clear. The ruling on evolution says that this evolution can only be done once. The 2nd Form of Frieza has an Evolution that he can only use once a turn. The 3rd Form comes in and simply replaces it. Now this new card also has an evolution ability. Since it's a separate card I don't see why you wouldn't be able to use a new cards evolution. It's the same reason you can use Frieza to 2nd Form Frieza and Zarbon's evolution in the same turn.

I believe the wording is there because you can attempt to evolve and since it IS chainable your opponent can chain a wish / technique to discard your hand. If you regain cards in your hand in that turn you wouldn't be able to attempt the same evolution.

Of course I suppose I AM the "confused" friend being talked about. I'm pretty sure this is how it works though.

Goggles123
01-06-2009, 01:05 PM
My guess is you can only evolution 1 warrior a turn, but I am not 100% on this, so this is a ruling that needs to be approved.

But then the rulebook would simply state that one evolution can be taken during each turn. It specifically states "A player can perform this Evolution only once per turn.". It means the specific card that has evolution.

A ruling is needed to straighten things out but I think I'm the only one on the forums that thinks the rulebook is clear enough on it. LOL.

Ninja Pebble
01-06-2009, 01:11 PM
i was going to link to the same question. Whenever you discard a warrior that is in play it goes to the chi area, if it is from your hand it goes the discard pile.
I found it really rude how wildfire responded to ruichi. Accusing him of not knowing the rules while all he is doing is trying to help a fellow player out who has not gotten his question answered after almost a week.

Yes, that is why I jumped into try and not make a situation that has an answer get out of hand.
My guess is you can only evolution 1 warrior a turn, but I am not 100% on this, so this is a ruling that needs to be approved.

swordmaster
01-06-2009, 03:12 PM
Thank you canti for posting the statement on discarding that made me confused, when he posted that exact statement is why we started running that all discarding from your hand goes to chi. This really needs to be cleared up since now several ppl are confused about it. MR. GOKU where are you?

Ninja Pebble
01-06-2009, 03:23 PM
Thank you canti for posting the statement on discarding that made me confused, when he posted that exact statement is why we started running that all discarding from your hand goes to chi. This really needs to be cleared up since now several ppl are confused about it. MR. GOKU where are you?
If a card is in play and gets discarded it goes to the chi, in less specified tordes the discard pile. So if all it says is discard and that card is in play it will go to the chi not the discard pile, but if you discard a card from hand then it goes to your discard pile. That's what his ruling means.

swordmaster
01-06-2009, 04:58 PM
Man that would make selection of the race very very good.

wildfire194
01-06-2009, 06:59 PM
Mr. Goku has now answered this question and I will admit that I was wrong. Sorry... there is a first time for everything :p

ruichi
01-06-2009, 07:16 PM
Mr. Goku has now answered this question and I will admit that I was wrong. Sorry... there is a first time for everything :p

no problem i just knew how it worked and wanted to help and yes selection of the race is very very good

Bibbo
01-06-2009, 07:32 PM
I think Selection needs to be re-worded and every other card that works the same way.

Discard should equal to the discard pile.
Sent to the Chi area should be just that.

Ninja Pebble
01-06-2009, 08:13 PM
I think Selection needs to be re-worded and every other card that works the same way.

Discard should equal to the discard pile.
Sent to the Chi area should be just that.

Ya that's the way it should be, but Mr. Goku's ruling is in effect until they state other wise. Just wait for the first World Martial Arts Tournament starts and will see all the full rulings.

swordmaster
01-07-2009, 07:27 AM
I am glad that selection of the race works that way, it is not broken and is just really good, considering you can only use its effect once per turn. The card is way too expensive to send the character to just the discard pile. I am very happy with this ruling.