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Prince_Trunks_1001
04-16-2008, 05:02 PM
Dose anyone else thinks it sucks that the DBZ game is just like naruto

DNaraku
04-16-2008, 05:07 PM
It's nothing at all like Naruto.

Shippuuden on the other hand...

To answer your question, no.

Goldenwill
04-16-2008, 05:08 PM
Yeah.. Agreed it does have it similarities but overalll they are gonna be 2 totally different games.

FFXITBest
04-16-2008, 05:11 PM
lol.... I like what we know about the game so far. It's a Naruto with a DragonBall uniqueness to it. And I for one like Naruto. The way this one will play is significantly different while keeping some of the strong points of Naruto in my opinion. So, no... I don't think it sucks that this game has similarities to Naruto.

CaMeRoN
04-16-2008, 05:13 PM
Dose anyone else thinks it sucks that the DBZ game is just like naruto

Okay, it is not "just like Naruto". There are many differences and few similarities. I will list some of them for you;

Similarities
- Win Condition
- Combat Mechanics
- Growth
- Charging From Hand

Differences
- Keywords (Super Recovery, etc.)
- DragonBall Coins
- Wish Cards
- Wish Card Deck
- Charging From Deck
- Phases Are Ordered Differently
- The Technique cards have turn costs
- Characters Have In-Game Transformations
- No Hand Costs (Pay From Chi instead)
- Timing Mechanics For Effects (Action & Strategy)
- Additional Effect Icons (Attacker, Defender, DragonBall, etc)
- Events stay in-play after they are used
- Events do not go to Chi unless they are timed

That should be enough to point out that they are as similar as MTG is to Yu-Gi-Oh!. Sure they share some mechanics but all TCG's share some mechanics.

DragonFist
04-16-2008, 05:32 PM
not really no...:D

soviet prince
04-16-2008, 06:24 PM
Okay, it is not "just like Naruto". There are many differences and few similarities. I will list some of them for you;

Similarities
- Win Condition
- Combat Mechanics
- Growth
- Charging From Hand

Differences
- Keywords (Super Recovery, etc.)
- DragonBall Coins
- Wish Cards
- Wish Card Deck
- Charging From Deck
- Phases Are Ordered Differently
- The Technique cards have turn costs
- Characters Have In-Game Transformations
- No Hand Costs (Pay From Chi instead)
- Timing Mechanics For Effects (Action & Strategy)
- Additional Effect Icons (Attacker, Defender, DragonBall, etc)
- Events stay in-play after they are used
- Events do not go to Chi unless they are timed

That should be enough to point out that they are as similar as MTG is to Yu-Gi-Oh!. Sure they share some mechanics but all TCG's share some mechanics.
could not have put in better

CaMeRoN
04-16-2008, 06:48 PM
could not have put in better

Thanks :p We should make a solid list so that whenever someone says it's similar we can post it up and be liek "BAM!"

soviet prince
04-16-2008, 07:33 PM
Okay, it is not "just like Naruto". There are many differences and few similarities. I will list some of them for you;

Similarities
- Win Condition
- Combat Mechanics
- Growth
- Charging From Hand

Differences
- Keywords (Super Recovery, etc.)
- DragonBall Coins
- Wish Cards
- Wish Card Deck
- Charging From Deck
- Phases Are Ordered Differently
- The Technique cards have turn costs
- Characters Have In-Game Transformations
- No Hand Costs (Pay From Chi instead)
- Timing Mechanics For Effects (Action & Strategy)
- Additional Effect Icons (Attacker, Defender, DragonBall, etc)
- Events stay in-play after they are used
- Events do not go to Chi unless they are timed

That should be enough to point out that they are as similar as MTG is to Yu-Gi-Oh!. Sure they share some mechanics but all TCG's share some mechanics.

Thanks :p We should make a solid list so that whenever someone says it's similar we can post it up and be liek "BAM!"

I think it needs to be sticked

Card Slinger J
04-16-2008, 08:04 PM
IMO it does kinda suck that this game is in some terms similiar to the Naruto CCG. But after talking with kamiccolo, I was starting to realize that Bandai's version to jumpstart the Dragonball franchise again isn't as bad of an idea as I thought.

Especially since very few people play Score's version (I'm part of that minority now) and most of the people who play the old Score version currently play it online at toptiergaming.com instead of paper cards like in the old days.

Does this mean I'm going to quit the Naruto CCG for the Dragonball CCG? Dunno, depends on what Bandai does to fix the meta for it. I'll still play both the old version and the new version of Dragonball incase If anyone wants to play me.

We still got a few months before the game is officially released, so we'll just have to wait it out.

soviet prince
04-16-2008, 08:05 PM
IMO it does kinda suck that this game is in some terms similiar to the Naruto CCG. But after talking with kamiccolo, I was starting to realize that Bandai's version to jumpstart the Dragonball franchise again isn't as bad of an idea as I thought.

Especially since very few people play Score's version (I'm part of that minority now) and most of the people who play the old Score version currently play it online at toptiergaming.com instead of paper cards like in the old days.

Does this mean I'm going to quit the Naruto CCG for the Dragonball CCG? Dunno, depends on what Bandai does to fix the meta for it. I'll still play both the old version and the new version of Dragonball incase If anyone wants to play me.

We still got a few months before the game is officially released, so we'll just have to wait it out.


I am glad to here that your going to give it a shot:D

CaMeRoN
04-16-2008, 09:02 PM
I am glad to here that your going to give it a shot:D

Yes, same here. Let's hope the world doesn't come crashing down within the next couple days.

Bunnyslayer
04-16-2008, 11:58 PM
IMO it does kinda suck that this game is in some terms similiar to the Naruto CCG.

Nearly every TCG is similar to MTG but that doesn't mean they suck o_O

CaMeRoN
04-17-2008, 12:01 AM
Nearly every TCG is similar to MTG but that doesn't mean they suck o_O

You keep at 'em Slayer :p

Card Slinger J
04-17-2008, 12:12 AM
Yes, same here. Let's hope the world doesn't come crashing down within the next couple days.

Good grief spare the sarcasm why don't ya. -_-

Nearly every TCG is similar to MTG but that doesn't mean they suck o_O

Don't you think I already know that... >_> I was referring to the Dragonball CCG being very similiar to the Naruto CCG in terms of game mechanics. I didn't even mention anything about Magic between those 2 games now did I?
-_-

You keep at 'em Slayer :p

You just had to encourage him didn't you?

CaMeRoN
04-17-2008, 12:22 AM
Don't you think I already know that... >_> I was referring to the Dragonball CCG being very similiar to the Naruto CCG in terms of game mechanics. I didn't even mention anything about Magic between those 2 games now did I?
-_-

You just had to encourage him didn't you?

I think I mentioned it :p I was saying something along the lines of DragonBall CCG being similar to the Naruto CCG is the same as any other CCG being the same as MTG.

Yeah sorry :( It's a habit :P

Bunnyslayer
04-17-2008, 10:57 AM
Don't you think I already know that... >_> I was referring to the Dragonball CCG being very similiar to the Naruto CCG in terms of game mechanics. I didn't even mention anything about Magic between those 2 games now did I?
-_-


Yeah but you mentioned that it kinda sucks that the games are similar and just because games are similar doesn't mean they suck...That was the point to my post =/

Seriously Card Slinger if ALL you are ever going to do is post about the Score version of the game then why are you even here? this is a DB CCG discusion forum not a Score Ent forum. I for one loved the DBZ game. Not only because it was DBZ but because the mechanics were AMAZING. Probably the best that I have ever seen in any Anime based Card game(Tho YuYu is still my favorite) but the game is dead and this game is new and believe it or not this game actually looks really fun. naruto is a fun game and this game is Naruto with a bunch of new mechancis and a couple cool differences in gameplay. Stop comparing the games and just have fun with this one(or dont your choice really :()

CaMeRoN
04-17-2008, 11:53 AM
Yeah but you mentioned that it kinda sucks that the games are similar and just because games are similar doesn't mean they suck...That was the point to my post =/

Seriously Card Slinger if ALL you are ever going to do is post about the Score version of the game then why are you even here? this is a DB CCG discusion forum not a Score Ent forum. I for one loved the DBZ game. Not only because it was DBZ but because the mechanics were AMAZING. Probably the best that I have ever seen in any Anime based Card game(Tho YuYu is still my favorite) but the game is dead and this game is new and believe it or not this game actually looks really fun. naruto is a fun game and this game is Naruto with a bunch of new mechancis and a couple cool differences in gameplay. Stop comparing the games and just have fun with this one(or dont your choice really :()

QFT

RawR 2 u 2 Slayer

soviet prince
04-17-2008, 12:00 PM
yeah lets just enjoy the game for what it is :D

CaMeRoN
04-17-2008, 12:03 PM
yeah lets just enjoy the game for what it is :D

*knudges Soviet Prince* What is it :D

soviet prince
04-17-2008, 12:04 PM
*knudges Soviet Prince* What is it :D

a very good well built game thats what it is:p

CaMeRoN
04-17-2008, 12:06 PM
a very good well built game thats what it is:p

Haha okay :p It actually does have a lot of mechanics that I really like. I'm impressed with how well bandai put this games mechanics together :)

soviet prince
04-17-2008, 12:13 PM
Haha okay :p It actually does have a lot of mechanics that I really like. I'm impressed with how well bandai put this games mechanics together :)

it's the same but diffrent, wow that a parodox:D

Nova
04-18-2008, 04:44 AM
it does seem alot like naruto but after reading the rulebook it seems like it might be a fun game.

CaMeRoN
04-18-2008, 01:27 PM
it does seem alot like naruto but after reading the rulebook it seems like it might be a fun game.

They share some mechanics but overall they have a lot more differences than similarities. It will definately be a fun game :)

Goldenwill
04-19-2008, 10:47 AM
Originally Posted by: Cameron
They share some mechanics but overall they have a lot more differences than similarities. It will definately be a fun game

I've gotta agree with Cameron here 100%!!!

soviet prince
04-19-2008, 12:19 PM
naruto is going to have some rule changes when ship set starts I hope it does not make it the exact same of this game

CaMeRoN
04-19-2008, 12:29 PM
naruto is going to have some rule changes when ship set starts I hope it does not make it the exact same of this game

I bet you they will add a lot of mechanics that the DragonBall CCG contains. They will basically make carbon copies of both games.

Nova
04-19-2008, 02:50 PM
I kinda doubt they will have dragonballs and wish cards though.

soviet prince
04-19-2008, 03:20 PM
I kinda doubt they will have dragonballs and wish cards though.

no they won't have wish cards,

CaMeRoN
04-19-2008, 03:51 PM
I kinda doubt they will have dragonballs and wish cards though.

What gave you that idea?

Nova
04-19-2008, 04:23 PM
do they have dragonballs in naruto?

Kaio-ken x10
04-19-2008, 04:48 PM
do they have dragonballs in naruto?

no, but it could be something like...collected 9 tailed-beasts, and win/get super effect o.O

after reading the rule book i thought these 2 games were really similar, but after....that guy....spelled it out, they seem a lot more different than i thought

soviet prince
04-19-2008, 05:21 PM
just hoping that the naruto rule change does not make a clone *crosses fingers*

CTUDarkZero
04-19-2008, 05:55 PM
I've just started following up on this thread and I have to say that while yes, the Dragonball CCG will have some similarities to Naruto CCG, they will not be the same. It's a trend that most Bandai games seem to have. When I started playing the Naruto CCG, I noticed that it had some similarities to the KoZ CCG (also by bandai), but that didn't necessarily mean that they were the same.

soviet prince
04-19-2008, 06:00 PM
Ah, also, I'm new to the board, so is there some thread where anyone can introduce themselves and what ccg/tcg's they play?
no there is not, and I would use the edit feature before rule sharks come :P

CTUDarkZero
04-19-2008, 06:01 PM
no there is not, and I would use the edit feature before rule sharks come :P

edit profile? rule sharks?

CaMeRoN
04-19-2008, 06:06 PM
edit profile? rule sharks?

Soviet meant to edit your original post. The one you made 1 minute before you posted your second. When you post two posts after eachother its called "double posting" and it is against forum rules.

Rules sharks are people who report posts that are against the forum rules. You broke a forum rule by double posting and a rule shark could come along and report your post. That would get you into trouble!

CTUDarkZero
04-19-2008, 06:07 PM
Soviet meant to edit your original post. The one you made 1 minute before you posted your second. When you post two posts after eachother its called "double posting" and it is against forum rules.

Rules sharks are people who report posts that are against the forum rules. You broke a forum rule by double posting and a rule shark could come along and report your post. That would get you into trouble!

thank you
let me erase my previous posts

CaMeRoN
04-19-2008, 06:08 PM
thank you
let me erase my previous posts

Your Welcome ^^ Good thinking :D

CTUDarkZero
04-19-2008, 06:09 PM
Yeah, thank you very much. By the way, did you happen to play the KoZ CCG?

CaMeRoN
04-19-2008, 06:11 PM
Yeah, thank you very much. By the way, did you happen to play the KoZ CCG?

Nope, I don't even know what KoZ stands for :) Unless its Knights Of The Zodiac :o

soviet prince
04-19-2008, 06:20 PM
Soviet meant to edit your original post. The one you made 1 minute before you posted your second. When you post two posts after eachother its called "double posting" and it is against forum rules.

Rules sharks are people who report posts that are against the forum rules. You broke a forum rule by double posting and a rule shark could come along and report your post. That would get you into trouble!

exactly what I was getting at, trying to help you avoid being flammed or reported.

CTUDarkZero
04-19-2008, 06:43 PM
Well, thanks a lot Soviet Prince and yes, KoZ stands for Knights of the Zodiac, Cameron.

soviet prince
04-19-2008, 06:51 PM
Well, thanks a lot Soviet Prince and yes, KoZ stands for Knights of the Zodiac, Cameron.

nice to be of an assistance:D

CaMeRoN
04-19-2008, 06:57 PM
yes, KoZ stands for Knights of the Zodiac, Cameron.

Ah, okay. I really thought that was a horrible anime. Bowling For Soup as your intro is a really bad idea on its own oO Might explain why I didn't play the CCG :P

CTUDarkZero
04-19-2008, 07:14 PM
Ah, okay. I really thought that was a horrible anime. Bowling For Soup as your intro is a really bad idea on its own oO Might explain why I didn't play the CCG :P

yeah, I agree, the american version of the anime was very heavily edited (examples being names, techniques and whatnot.) But I thought the card game was a bit cool, although game play was really broken, although strangely enough it worked for the Naruto CCG.

CaMeRoN
04-19-2008, 07:51 PM
yeah, I agree, the american version of the anime was very heavily edited (examples being names, techniques and whatnot.) But I thought the card game was a bit cool, although game play was really broken, although strangely enough it worked for the Naruto CCG.

Naruto being really popular in North America probably helped :p Yeah, the american names for the Knights Of The Zodiac series were so bad :( It goes int hte ranks of dubs as bad as One Piece.

CTUDarkZero
04-19-2008, 08:00 PM
Naruto being really popular in North America probably helped :p Yeah, the american names for the Knights Of The Zodiac series were so bad :( It goes int hte ranks of dubs as bad as One Piece.

Yeah, it would've been better if those two series never got dubbed. They really did a bad job with those two series. (Knights of the Zodiac and One Piece).

CaMeRoN
04-19-2008, 08:08 PM
Yeah, it would've been better if those two series never got dubbed. They really did a bad job with those two series. (Knights of the Zodiac and One Piece).

Yup. I would have been sooooo happy if One Piece never got dubbed by 4kids. The funimation dub is really good though :D

CTUDarkZero
04-19-2008, 08:19 PM
Yup. I would have been sooooo happy if One Piece never got dubbed by 4kids. The funimation dub is really good though :D

Funimation's dubbing One Piece?

CaMeRoN
04-19-2008, 08:23 PM
Funimation's dubbing One Piece?

Yeah, they've done a couple episodes already.

Majin_vegeta
04-20-2008, 05:20 PM
Dose anyone else thinks it sucks that the DBZ game is just like naruto

I have to agree with you complete and in full. I played the 2 original dbz card games(the 2 most recent, as there was one that never kicked off in america), I have been to many of the tournaments for both games, and to see this game, this series, MY GAME go to waist by a cheaper version of NARUTO???


Bandai that sucks. Where's your creativity? Do you think it's cool to be able to interchange 2 games and make them compatible? Let's see...2 factions...with the same type of cards...same game play....IT'S CALLED WORLD OF WARCRAFT have you been under a rock the past 2 years??????

World of warcraft, penny arcade, king of fighters and sooooooo many other games like this have been created...ever heard of UFS? same story.

I was really hoping that the NarutoXdragonball z stuff was a rumor...REALLY HOPING FOR IT to be just a rumor...BUT NOPE! it's fine...you probably only want to make money off this anyways.

Although my unending hatred for this type of thing will probably still remain, I have to say I do appreciate you bringing the game to life and at least trying to make it work.

Like I said, I played the other two games, and Aik(if you don't know who he is then you either never played the older dbz games or you lived under a rock while you did), along with Score Ent. DESTROYED the games.

Please, fix the meta, don't make it too much like lame naruto, and have a variety of cards that don't focus on just 1 or 2 decks...we don't need another PRONG on our hands!

soviet prince
04-20-2008, 06:03 PM
I have to agree with you complete and in full. I played the 2 original dbz card games(the 2 most recent, as there was one that never kicked off in america), I have been to many of the tournaments for both games, and to see this game, this series, MY GAME go to waist by a cheaper version of NARUTO???


Bandai that sucks. Where's your creativity? Do you think it's cool to be able to interchange 2 games and make them compatible? Let's see...2 factions...with the same type of cards...same game play....IT'S CALLED WORLD OF WARCRAFT have you been under a rock the past 2 years??????

World of warcraft, penny arcade, king of fighters and sooooooo many other games like this have been created...ever heard of UFS? same story.

I was really hoping that the NarutoXdragonball z stuff was a rumor...REALLY HOPING FOR IT to be just a rumor...BUT NOPE! it's fine...you probably only want to make money off this anyways.

Although my unending hatred for this type of thing will probably still remain, I have to say I do appreciate you bringing the game to life and at least trying to make it work.

Like I said, I played the other two games, and Aik(if you don't know who he is then you either never played the older dbz games or you lived under a rock while you did), along with Score Ent. DESTROYED the games.

Please, fix the meta, don't make it too much like lame naruto, and have a variety of cards that don't focus on just 1 or 2 decks...we don't need another PRONG on our hands!
it not as bad as you put it, the game will have it unique feel with the addition of dballs and wishcards. In addition the mech that are simliar are greatly improved on. I don't see why all the hate for naruto the game was pretty fun and unique. I will admit at first I did not like it being similar but come to think about it, it's not really that bad.

CaMeRoN
04-20-2008, 10:53 PM
I have to agree with you complete and in full. I played the 2 original dbz card games(the 2 most recent, as there was one that never kicked off in america), I have been to many of the tournaments for both games, and to see this game, this series, MY GAME go to waist by a cheaper version of NARUTO???


Bandai that sucks. Where's your creativity? Do you think it's cool to be able to interchange 2 games and make them compatible? Let's see...2 factions...with the same type of cards...same game play....IT'S CALLED WORLD OF WARCRAFT have you been under a rock the past 2 years??????

World of warcraft, penny arcade, king of fighters and sooooooo many other games like this have been created...ever heard of UFS? same story.

I was really hoping that the NarutoXdragonball z stuff was a rumor...REALLY HOPING FOR IT to be just a rumor...BUT NOPE! it's fine...you probably only want to make money off this anyways.

Although my unending hatred for this type of thing will probably still remain, I have to say I do appreciate you bringing the game to life and at least trying to make it work.

Like I said, I played the other two games, and Aik(if you don't know who he is then you either never played the older dbz games or you lived under a rock while you did), along with Score Ent. DESTROYED the games.

Please, fix the meta, don't make it too much like lame naruto, and have a variety of cards that don't focus on just 1 or 2 decks...we don't need another PRONG on our hands!

Well, that wasn't the most Bias thing I've ever read.

Majin_vegeta
04-20-2008, 11:39 PM
Well, that wasn't the most Bias thing I've ever read.

Look the problem I have with the Naruto game is that from the beginning and still today there are like 3 decks that people play...it's not fun to play against the same stuff over and over and over. In the old dbz games, there was tons of different choices..there were different tokui-waza(fighting styles; similar to the types of chakra but more than 5) as well as having main personalities(people who would be, i guess guardians of the deck) which helped the meta A LOT because you rarely saw more than 1 of the same deck in the first 6 rounds.

Whereas the in the Naruto game three or so decks would be the only things you'd see. I don't wanna end up getting involved into a game where that kind of thing happens. It's not that I'm biased against the Naruto card game, because there are other games out there that have the same problem I'm sure, but since Naruto is the game Bandai seems to be imitating, It's only fair to compare the two.

Yes, Dragonball Z does have some new mechanics to the game that makes it somewhat different than the Naruto card game, but it's mostly the same Naruto game regurgitated with some different names(for example, missions=event, jutsu=technique(evidently, jutsu is Japanese for technique) etc.

I recognize that some of the things are improved changes over the Naruto game..and is more..."up to date" I guess one could say about the DBZ game, when comparing it to Naruto.

Look, the reason I don't really like the idea of having 2 games being able to go against each other, having similar game play and cards, and so on is because I am a veteran of the older games, I like to see a lot of different decks and creativity. In naruto, there is none of that! I don't want the same thing to happen to the legacy of Dragonball Z.

You all make valid points here, I'll give you that, but if I wanted to get involved in a game where I could go against a different faction and play with the same rules, cards, and some strategies, I'll go back to the World of Warcraft card game.

We're all entitled to our opinions, and if you don't like mine that's understandable. In my opinion, if you didn't play any of the old dbz games, you couldn't know where I'm coming from in terms of respect for the game, and passion for the way it's played. I have too many good memories behind it all, and I don't wanna see it come off as some POS game that copies a bunch of underaged "ninja." Call me oldschool, but that just isn't my style.

SSJ2 Gohan
04-21-2008, 12:02 AM
Okay, it is not "just like Naruto". There are many differences and few similarities. I will list some of them for you;

Similarities
- Win Condition
- Combat Mechanics
- Growth
- Charging From Hand

Differences
- Keywords (Super Recovery, etc.)
- DragonBall Coins
- Wish Cards
- Wish Card Deck
- Charging From Deck
- Phases Are Ordered Differently
- The Technique cards have turn costs
- Characters Have In-Game Transformations
- No Hand Costs (Pay From Chi instead)
- Timing Mechanics For Effects (Action & Strategy)
- Additional Effect Icons (Attacker, Defender, DragonBall, etc)
- Events stay in-play after they are used
- Events do not go to Chi unless they are timed

That should be enough to point out that they are as similar as MTG is to Yu-Gi-Oh!. Sure they share some mechanics but all TCG's share some mechanics.

this needs to be shown to all who think the 2 games are similar

kamiccolo
04-21-2008, 12:20 AM
Majin_vegeta - If you don't like Naruto then I don't think your going to like the new dbccg. Keep watching how Bandai manages this game. If it starts to improve from what you think it's going to be like then try playing it. Until then maybe just play score's old dbz card game.

Majin_vegeta
04-21-2008, 12:34 AM
Majin_vegeta - Keep watching how Bandai manages this game.

I will continue to do so. I do like some of the things about this game, I'm not saying i absolutely hate it 100 percent and in full, but a lot of things in this game ARE similar to that of Naruto, no one can deny that. Like I said, it has a lot of the same things(chi=chakra, missions=events, justu=technique and so on) which is more proof. The post above this one, the one that shows how it compares and contrasts with Naruto, I've read it...wasn't it in like the top 3 posts down from the OP??

Look it has contrasts, but it also has similarities too similar to Naruto.
I will continue to see how the game play goes, and yes, I will even play it. I liked Naruto back when it first came out because no one had the same deck, everyone wanted to make a deck that suited them(I know for a fact, because my best friend played water earth while I played lightning water!) but eventually everyone just came to tournies using the same decks...all same cards..nothing new. I don't want it to end up like that


anyways enough of that I'm getting too carried away. To the people that are against what I'm saying: I understand what you mean, but that's just how I feel. I'm not being close minded or stubborn, as I have looked over the rulebook and read the posts leading up to this one. I even downloaded the rulebook. I can see where you're coming from, but I stick with my opinions.

Noitanigami
04-21-2008, 05:27 AM
IMO, this game does bare strong similarities and i find it quite interesting, but i can also see both sides of the argument. Ill try it once

now about the naruto 3 decks being played at the naruto tournaments...have you ever considered that the people you play with are the problem. We have a decent group and a variety of decks. It could be that the groups you play just netdeck and dont try there own things.

soviet prince
04-21-2008, 06:50 AM
I will continue to do so. I do like some of the things about this game, I'm not saying i absolutely hate it 100 percent and in full, but a lot of things in this game ARE similar to that of Naruto, no one can deny that. Like I said, it has a lot of the same things(chi=chakra, missions=events, justu=technique and so on) which is more proof. The post above this one, the one that shows how it compares and contrasts with Naruto, I've read it...wasn't it in like the top 3 posts down from the OP??

Look it has contrasts, but it also has similarities too similar to Naruto.
I will continue to see how the game play goes, and yes, I will even play it. I liked Naruto back when it first came out because no one had the same deck, everyone wanted to make a deck that suited them(I know for a fact, because my best friend played water earth while I played lightning water!) but eventually everyone just came to tournies using the same decks...all same cards..nothing new. I don't want it to end up like that


anyways enough of that I'm getting too carried away. To the people that are against what I'm saying: I understand what you mean, but that's just how I feel. I'm not being close minded or stubborn, as I have looked over the rulebook and read the posts leading up to this one. I even downloaded the rulebook. I can see where you're coming from, but I stick with my opinions.

In most if not all TCG there is a dominate deck( at least for the many of have played) the reasion for the dominate decks are not becuse there overpowered it's just few ppl will be willing to risk using a deck that's not proven there worth. Also if I am not mistaken there is a variety of Naruto decks that are competive now.

CaMeRoN
04-21-2008, 01:36 PM
In most if not all TCG there is a dominate deck( at least for the many of have played) the reasion for the dominate decks are not becuse there overpowered it's just few ppl will be willing to risk using a deck that's not proven there worth. Also if I am not mistaken there is a variety of Naruto decks that are competive now.

There will alwyas be dominant deck types in TCG's. It's the natural order of things. Basically what happens on a large scale level is a big tournament is held. Someone wins with a certain deck type. The deck list is released, people find themselves compelled to try out the deck and keep using it for whatever reason.

On a small scale level, local tournaments are held weekly. There is usually a couple people who win on a weekly basis and they all usually run similar cards. People see the cards played against them repeatedly and mimic those cards in order to win or improve their decks.

Both situations create dominant deck types. It's the same in any other competative environment outside of card games. There is always a cookie cutter style to any competition.

FFXITBest
04-21-2008, 01:46 PM
Yeah, there are always people with little deck-building skill that have to play "CopyCat". I've never done the cookie-cutter setup though.

From my Undead Goblin deck in Magic, to my DD deck in Yu-Gi-Oh, to my Water deck in Naruto, to my Hollow deck in Bleach. I always use whatever I want based on my own opinions with no regard for what everyone else is using, what wins a big tourney, or what seems to be 'popular' at that time.

But... That being said for my main deck... I still make a side deck to side in against certain decks.

CaMeRoN
04-21-2008, 02:25 PM
Yeah, there are always people with little deck-building skill that have to play "CopyCat". I've never done the cookie-cutter setup though.

From my Undead Goblin deck in Magic, to my DD deck in Yu-Gi-Oh, to my Water deck in Naruto, to my Hollow deck in Bleach. I always use whatever I want based on my own opinions with no regard for what everyone else is using, what wins a big tourney, or what seems to be 'popular' at that time.

But... That being said for my main deck... I still make a side deck to side in against certain decks.

Yeah, I agree. Although, if you are a competative player who is looking to win a lot of tournaments then net-decking is definately how you should go. Once you learn how to play the top deck you can look for ways to counter it. Counter decks are the decks I love building. I love how they make your opponent squirm :D Side decks are definately a big part of that :)

FFXITBest
04-21-2008, 03:19 PM
lol You can certainly be a good player without "net-decking" though. I personally have won several tournaments in every CCG that I've played while never "net-decking".

CaMeRoN
04-21-2008, 03:37 PM
lol You can certainly be a good player without "net-decking" though. I personally have won several tournaments in every CCG that I've played while never "net-decking".

Of course you can win without netdecking :p The way I use netdecking it to get a feel for what other people are playing in different regions. Where I live, a different deck will be dominant as opposed to a deck in another region. Therefor, netdecking a deck from anotehr region and attempting to run it in a tournament against decks in my region allows me to see which decks are superior.

FFXITBest
04-21-2008, 03:48 PM
That's fine for some players. I just like my originality when it comes to making decks as opposed to using someone else's idea.

CaMeRoN
04-21-2008, 04:20 PM
That's fine for some players. I just like my originality when it comes to making decks as opposed to using someone else's idea.

Originality is a good thing :) It keeps people guessing and it makes local tournaments a lot less boring.

FFXITBest
04-21-2008, 04:23 PM
Yep, originality is very good. At least for me it is. =)

CaMeRoN
04-21-2008, 05:15 PM
Yep, originality is very good. At least for me it is. =)

Haha, I'd say its good for all players. There are a lot of people who quit card games because the meta is so unoriginal. I know that there were tons of complaints for that when I was playing Yu-Gi-Oh!.

soviet prince
04-21-2008, 07:35 PM
Yeah, I agree. Although, if you are a competative player who is looking to win a lot of tournaments then net-decking is definately how you should go. Once you learn how to play the top deck you can look for ways to counter it. Counter decks are the decks I love building. I love how they make your opponent squirm :D Side decks are definately a big part of that :)
something better then winning with a deck thats cookie cutter is winning with a deck no one expects to win.

Goldenwill
04-21-2008, 08:43 PM
something better then winning with a deck thats cookie cutter is winning with a deck no one expects to win.

Well Said Soviet Prince!!

majingogeta344
04-21-2008, 08:46 PM
something better then winning with a deck thats cookie cutter is winning with a deck no one expects to win.

Like FPS and Freedori in the recent Jonins in Naruto.

CaMeRoN
04-21-2008, 09:00 PM
Like FPS and Freedori in the recent Jonins in Naruto.

Suuuure :D

something better then winning with a deck thats cookie cutter is winning with a deck no one expects to win.

RawR, if you say so :o

soviet prince
04-22-2008, 06:49 AM
Well Said Soviet Prince!!
*takes a bow* :p

CaMeRoN
04-22-2008, 01:07 PM
*takes a bow* :p

lol, Knights thee Sir Soviet Prince.