we have rules

[blood-god]

http://www.bandaicg.com/dragonball/game.html

sweet
and Discuss

[Goku]

Really really sweet and I need to get reading....

[dbznarutoonepiece]

cant open, darn

[Goku]

Well it seems to be just like naruto. The main difference is that discarded warriors go to the chi/chakra zone and of course the dragonballs. Over all I'd have to say that I can't freaking wait to play this game...

[Dawn Bringer]

the game is basically like naruto shippuden
they could have been alittle more creative with the card symbols though
i mean super, earth, alien, villian, and unique WTF!? unique common bandai you can be more creatice than that i mean u let usFORMATION cards and gaara tn come out for naruto

i have a question with the wish cards and how u play them do u have to have 7DBcoins in play to use a wish or do u have to have 7DBcoins on 1of your warriors
NOTE:you can use UP TO 3 wish cards
so u can use 0,1,2,3 wish cards but no more

[CaMeRoN]

the game is basically like naruto shippuden
they could have been alittle more creative with the card symbols though
i mean super, earth, alien, villian, and unique WTF!? unique common bandai you can be more creatice than that i mean u let usFORMATION cards and gaara tn come out for naruto

i have a question with the wish cards and how u play them do u have to have 7DBcoins in play to use a wish or do u have to have 7DBcoins on 1of your warriors
NOTE:you can use UP TO 3 wish cards
so u can use 0,1,2,3 wish cards but no more

You should ask that in the Q & A section. This topic is for discussion of the rules not ruling questions.

[Evil Jim]

It says in the book, you can only have 7 DB coins on your side. And then in the Wish part of the book it says, a total of 7 DBs on your in-play Warriors. So, its just total, not just one. And form the looks of it you want the DBs to be spread out.

Edit: Hmm, Two ways of charging is cool. You can do it like normal, or take the top card of your deck and charge it. But you can only do one or none.

[CaMeRoN]

It says in the book, you can only have 7 DB coins on your side. And then in the Wish part of the book it says, a total of 7 DBs on your in-play Warriors. So, its just total, not just one. And form the looks of it you want the DBs to be spread out.

Edit: Hmm, Two ways of charging is cool. You can do it like normal, or take the top card of your deck and charge it. But you can only do one or none.

Yeah, I love the idea of two ways of charging. It can be a disadvantage to charge from the top of your deck since you are in-turn decking yourself or losing a card you might have need. It also proves as a huge advantage when paying for certain cards and setting up your turn. Kudos to Bandai to taking on a lot of the Shippuuden CCG mechanics!

[Evil Jim]

Yeah, I really like the game so far. Never really know tell you crack open the deck and give it a try, but so far so good, IMO. And I am liking the DB coins and Wish cards.

[cowboys from hell]

i didn't understand the chi costs, you must discard form your chi to deploy a warrior?

[Evil Jim]

i didn't understand the chi costs, you must discard form your chi to deploy a warrior?

Basically everything cost "charka" instead of a hand cost.

[blood-god]

ya what he sad

also you can have up to 3 wish cards, so 0,1,2 or 3 but you can only use 1 of them during a game

[DNaraku]

If they have a Chi cost, yes.

[soviet prince]

so my theory on using the shipuden mech. was right yeah me.

also love how the deck is refered to as your planet

[Card Slinger J]

"Life Deck" kinda sounded cooler to me though but in a sense where your deck was the life of the character you were playing as and you could determine both characters' endurance just by looking how many cards they have left before either one decks out.

But I dunno, Planet does sound cool though but considering that in this game you're playing in teams instead of one character and a bunch of allies it makes sense for Bandai to name the deck that way.

This game did in a sense improve DB Victory with the Wish cards to make them more creative instead of gathering all seven DB's for an instant win.

[CaMeRoN]

so my theory on using the shipuden mech. was right yeah me.

also love how the deck is refered to as your planet

Congrats Soviet :p Awesome prediction =) I predicted the using of Ki as a hand cost!

I also like the idea of your deck being a planet.

[Kintaro]

HEY GUYS!!!

I haven't been around in awhile, and was let in on the fact that the rules were up - well, I just finished reading them, and I have to say that I am really excited for the game now!! It's so much like Shippuuden it's sick - and I mean that in a good way. :D

Looks like a bunch of ya had some great predictions on some of the mechs!!

WHOO!!

[CaMeRoN]

HEY GUYS!!!

I haven't been around in awhile, and was let in on the fact that the rules were up - well, I just finished reading them, and I have to say that I am really excited for the game now!! It's so much like Shippuuden it's sick - and I mean that in a good way. :D

Looks like a bunch of ya had some great predictions on some of the mechs!!

WHOO!!

Sure did :p

[Bunnyslayer]

"Life Deck" kinda sounded cooler to me though

What do you know once again ANOTHER Card Slinger post refering to the Score game doing things better than bandai's version:(


On topis the rules are amazing and anyone who says that this game is the same game as naruto are morons.

[CaMeRoN]

What do you know once again ANOTHER Card Slinger post refering to the Score game doing things better than bandai's version:(


On topis the rules are amazing and anyone who says that this game is the same game as naruto are morons.

Yeah the rules are wicked! Definately nowhere near the same as the Naruto CCG. Bandai has done a very good job at meshing mechanics and adding their own.

I like the idea of your deck being your Planet =\ Life deck was interesting but I like planet better :D It sounds more important ^^ You have to protect the lives of everyone instead of just your own.

[soviet prince]

This is an all out improved version of the Naruto Mech.

[Shinfitz]

Yeah the rules are wicked! Definately nowhere near the same as the Naruto CCG. Bandai has done a very good job at meshing mechanics and adding their own.

I like the idea of your deck being your Planet =\ Life deck was interesting but I like planet better :D It sounds more important ^^ You have to protect the lives of everyone instead of just your own.

Cool, the rules are released at last.

But... the rules are no way near that of Naruto?

What?!

They are just like Naruto.

Now, don't get me wrong. It isn't like that's a bad thing. But call it what it is, people. Battle Rewards = Planet Damage. The payment system is exactly the same. The ability to charge from the deck isn't like the game we know, but as many have said, it is taken from the Shippudden game. Turn costs, Mission = Events and all the rules for them apply, it's the exact same thing.

The only thing different are the Dragon Ball coins (which is a pretty cool mechanic) as well as the wish cards.

I also have to say, I like that the key worded a lot of their text. (Like Super Recovery, Plunder, ect.) And that the techniques not only have requirements but have traits themselves.

I've played all of the score dragon ball games, and enjoyed them. I know they were fun, but it's time to let that go, people. Let's enjoy the fact that Bandai has brought us another incarnation of Dragon Ball.

Also, please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks the rules of this game are STRIKINGLY SIMILAR (if not exactly) like the Naruto game.

Please...

Someone, anyone with decent observational skills.

Because saying it's nothing like Naruto, that's almost blasphemy.

[Goku]

Sure the basic gameplay is the same but its the small changes to the rules and the extra stuff like wish cards that will make this game better then naruto and unique enough to be its own game.

[dbznarutoonepiece]

does anyone know how to open the file? i tried opening it but it went straight to the word document with a whole bunch of mumbo-jumbo that seems to be written in code. does anybody know what to do?

[Evil Jim]

does anyone know how to open the file? i tried opening it but it went straight to the word document with a whole bunch of mumbo-jumbo that seems to be written in code. does anybody know what to do?

Its a PDF file. Just go to the page with book, and right click, and there should be a save link or the like. By doing that you can download it.

[dbznarutoonepiece]

Its a PDF file. Just go to the page with book, and right click, and there should be a save link or the like. By doing that you can download it.

Um, with book? what do u mean by that?

[dbznarutoonepiece]

You go to the link, "The Game". There is a picture of the rule book.

okay then what? When i open it, a file comes up saying to open it. When i open it it goes to a word document.

[Evil Jim]

Um, with book? what do u mean by that?

You go to the link, "The Game". There is a picture of the rule book.

[dbznarutoonepiece]

Make sure you also have adobe acrobat as well, as it is required to read the document.

adobe acrobat? I see so i have to go download it? thanks for ur help

[Mr. Shine]

Make sure you also have adobe acrobat as well, as it is required to read the document.

[Evil Jim]

okay then what? When i open it, a file comes up saying to open it. When i open it it goes to a word document.

As I said, its a PDF file. You need Adobe acrobat thing to open it. Most computers at least have it so you can open them.

[Bunnyslayer]

Cool, the rules are released at last.

But... the rules are no way near that of Naruto?

What?!

They are just like Naruto.

Now, don't get me wrong. It isn't like that's a bad thing. But call it what it is, people. Battle Rewards = Planet Damage. The payment system is exactly the same. The ability to charge from the deck isn't like the game we know, but as many have said, it is taken from the Shippudden game. Turn costs, Mission = Events and all the rules for them apply, it's the exact same thing.

The only thing different are the Dragon Ball coins (which is a pretty cool mechanic) as well as the wish cards.

I also have to say, I like that the key worded a lot of their text. (Like Super Recovery, Plunder, ect.) And that the techniques not only have requirements but have traits themselves.

I've played all of the score dragon ball games, and enjoyed them. I know they were fun, but it's time to let that go, people. Let's enjoy the fact that Bandai has brought us another incarnation of Dragon Ball.

Also, please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks the rules of this game are STRIKINGLY SIMILAR (if not exactly) like the Naruto game.

Please...

Someone, anyone with decent observational skills.

Because saying it's nothing like Naruto, that's almost blasphemy.

I assume you read the same rules that we did because there are quite a few things in here that are not like naruto....The base of the game may be similar but the overall game is quite different.

[CaMeRoN]

I assume you read the same rules that we did because there are quite a few things in here that are not like naruto....The base of the game may be similar but the overall game is quite different.

Yeah, I'd say this game is closer to the Shipuuden CCG than the Naruto CCG. If you really want to compare them then the Naruto CCG lacks at least 6 mechanics that are employed by the DragonBall CCG. Those six mechanics make for a big different in overall gameplay. The DragonBall CCG and the Naruto CCG are definately completely different games and it can be seen through reading the rules.

[Goku]

Yeah dragonball is really looking better then naruto right now in my eyes. Sure the fighting and winning is the same but the way you go about doing it is really cool. I think bandai did really good with the dragonball part of the game. Its kind of like the characters are protecting the balls and when they die you gotta get that ball all over again. I think this is a thousand times better then having dragonball cards in your deck that just take up space. And gaining balls from taking planet damage is awesome. Just like in the show, making a wish is a last ditch effort for victory. Now if only we could just get some previews I would be super happy, even if its one a day or something.

[CaMeRoN]

Yeah dragonball is really looking better then naruto right now in my eyes. Sure the fighting and winning is the same but the way you go about doing it is really cool. I think bandai did really good with the dragonball part of the game. Its kind of like the characters are protecting the balls and when they die you gotta get that ball all over again. I think this is a thousand times better then having dragonball cards in your deck that just take up space. And gaining balls from taking planet damage is awesome. Just like in the show, making a wish is a last ditch effort for victory. Now if only we could just get some previews I would be super happy, even if its one a day or something.

Well said :) The dragonball coin mechanic is definately a good one. I'm going to put myself out there for Old Z fans to bash by saying that the dragonball coin mechanic of Ban-Z are more true to the series than the Old Z dragonball card mechanics. My reasons are those listed in the post I quoted.

[dbznarutoonepiece]

As I said, its a PDF file. You need Adobe acrobat thing to open it. Most computers at least have it so you can open them.

darn, i dont have it

[soviet prince]

darn, i dont have it

try this

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

[dbznarutoonepiece]

try this

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

its free right?

[soviet prince]

its free right?

don't know it will tell you if it's not

[dbznarutoonepiece]

don't know it will tell you if it's not

oh alright then

[CaMeRoN]

its free right?

Yes it's free oO

[cowboys from hell]

it's naruto, but have a few nore mechanics... i think it'll be fun playing DB vs Naruto.

[CaMeRoN]

it's naruto, but have a few nore mechanics... i think it'll be fun playing DB vs Naruto.

There are a lot of differences man. I wouldn't call it naruto. It has at least 6 more mechanics than Naruto does. They have the same combat system and reward system but that's it. The only reason those two things are the same is to make the games compatible. They are definately, without a shred of doubt, different.

[DragonFist]

Awesome...lookd like an interesting game....cant wait

[dbznarutoonepiece]

Yes it's free oO

i guess it is. btw thank u soviet prince! u rock

[CaMeRoN]

i guess it is. btw thank u soviet prince! u rock

Yes, yes he does :p

[soviet prince]

i guess it is. btw thank u soviet prince! u rock

no problem glad to help

[dbznarutoonepiece]

no problem glad to help

lol u helped a lot

[dbznarutoonepiece]

Yes, yes he does :p

lol he does

[soviet prince]

Yes, yes he does :p

Believe It!!!( sorry bad Naruto reference:p)

[CaMeRoN]

Believe It!!!( sorry bad Naruto reference:p)

lol Very bad oO

[Shinfitz]

I assume you read the same rules that we did because there are quite a few things in here that are not like naruto....The base of the game may be similar but the overall game is quite different.

I've read the rules, and like I said, Dragon Ball as a few things that are different, (techniques have traits, lots of new key words, more stuff sent to chi area, charging from the planet, and a few others) but that doesn't mean they are completely different games.

You know what are completely different games?

Dragon Ball and Pokemon.

Dragon Ball and YuGiOh.

Not Dragon Ball and Naruto.

Just because they have a few differences, doesn't mean they are COMPLETELY different games. They have MUCH more in common than they do different.

And as I said before, it's not a bad thing that they are similar. The system is very good. But call it what it is.

[cowboys from hell]

There are a lot of differences man. I wouldn't call it naruto. It has at least 6 more mechanics than Naruto does. They have the same combat system and reward system but that's it. The only reason those two things are the same is to make the games compatible. They are definately, without a shred of doubt, different.

yes it's different, but not that different... most of the diferences are details... of course the wish and Dragon ball mechs are completely new and are no detail, but most of other things, like everything sent to chi instead of discard, paying costs with chi instead of hand, aren't a huge difference(of course, there's difference, but not that much), also the part of attacker/defender effecets, are just like the normal/counter missions, or the effects "during your opponents turn" or "during you turn".

but you got a point:
They are definately, without a shred of doubt, different.

[CaMeRoN]

Just because they have a few differences, doesn't mean they are COMPLETELY different games. They have MUCH more in common than they do different.

I'll challenge you on that. I'm positive that there are more differences than similarities. There are actually tons more differences than similarities. If you can compile me a list of all the similarities, I will post my list of differences. However, when compiling your list, you should list big similarities and not small things that are common to all TCG's.

Edit: I'm too antsy to wait oO

I've read the rules, and like I said, Dragon Ball as a few things that are different, (techniques have traits, lots of new key words, more stuff sent to chi area, charging from the planet, and a few others) but that doesn't mean they are completely different games.

You know what are completely different games?

Dragon Ball and Pokemon.

Dragon Ball and YuGiOh.

Not Dragon Ball and Naruto.

Just because they have a few differences, doesn't mean they are COMPLETELY different games. They have MUCH more in common than they do different.

And as I said before, it's not a bad thing that they are similar. The system is very good. But call it what it is.

There are more than a few differences man. DragonBall and Naruto are completely different games. They are as similar as the games you listed above. List below should show that they have tons more differences than similarities.

Similarities
- Win Condition
- Combat Mechanics
- Growth
- Charging From Hand

Differences
- Keywords (Super Recovery, etc.)
- DragonBall Coins
- Wish Cards
- Wish Card Deck
- Charging From Deck
- Phases Are Ordered Differently
- The Technique cards have turn costs
- Characters Have In-Game Transformations
- No Hand Costs (Pay From Chi instead)
- Timing Mechanics For Effects (Action & Strategy)
- Additional Effect Icons (Attacker, Defender, DragonBall, etc)
- Events stay in-play after they are used
- Events do not go to Chi unless they are timed

[Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Buu]

I'll challenge you on that. I'm positive that there are more differences than similarities. There are actually tons more differences than similarities. If you can compile me a list of all the similarities, I will post my list of differences. However, when compiling your list, you should list big similarities and not small things that are common to all TCG's.

Edit: I'm too antsy to wait oO



There are more than a few differences man. DragonBall and Naruto are completely different games. They are as similar as the games you listed above. List below should show that they have tons more differences than similarities.

Similarities
- Win Condition
- Combat Mechanics
- Growth
- Charging From Hand

Differences
- Keywords (Super Recovery, etc.) Which is pretty much part of their effect
- DragonBall Coins
- Wish Cards
- Wish Card Deck Dragonball coins, Wish cards, and Wish Card Deck are all considered just one difference
- Charging From Deck Just specific detail
- Phases Are Ordered Differently Phases look pretty much the same to me
- The Technique cards have turn costs Just specific detail
- Characters Have In-Game Transformations
- No Hand Costs (Pay From Chi instead) Just specific detail, not that much different from Naruto
- Timing Mechanics For Effects (Action & Strategy) Same as above
- Additional Effect Icons (Attacker, Defender, DragonBall, etc) As I recall in Naruto, some effects could only be used when you are attacker/Defender
- Events stay in-play after they are used Which are permanent missions in Naruto
- Events do not go to Chi unless they are timed Same as above


Looks like pretty similar games to me

[CaMeRoN]

Looks like pretty similar games to me

Good job on generalizing everything I said.

[Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Buu]

Good job on generalizing everything I said.

Ok, so you're saying if two games have the same win conditions, the same types of different card types, the same way you do battle, and pretty much the same mechanics, but they each have a few minor differences then the two games are COMPLETELY Different. I obviously don't know what is going through your mind:/

[CaMeRoN]

Ok, so you're saying if two games have the same win conditions, the same types of different card types, the same way you do battle, and pretty much the same mechanics, but they each have a few minor differences then the two games are COMPLETELY Different. I obviously don't know what is going through your mind:/

I don't remember saying that. Quote me please.

What I'm attempting to convey is that although the games have similarities, they are different enough to call them different games. These games do have enough similarity in order to allow seperate rules to allow interplay between the two games. However, the idea that you have to play by seperate rules in order to play against the Naruto CCG should bring about the idea that the games are different enough to say that they are indeed different games.

[Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Buu]

There are more than a few differences man. DragonBall and Naruto are completely different games. They are as similar as the games you listed above. List below should show that they have tons more differences than similarities.

Similarities
- Win Condition
- Combat Mechanics
- Growth
- Charging From Hand

Differences
- Keywords (Super Recovery, etc.)
- DragonBall Coins
- Wish Cards
- Wish Card Deck
- Charging From Deck
- Phases Are Ordered Differently
- The Technique cards have turn costs
- Characters Have In-Game Transformations
- No Hand Costs (Pay From Chi instead)
- Timing Mechanics For Effects (Action & Strategy)
- Additional Effect Icons (Attacker, Defender, DragonBall, etc)
- Events stay in-play after they are used
- Events do not go to Chi unless they are timed

I don't remember saying that. Quote me please.
See Above

What I'm attempting to convey is that although the games have similarities, they are different enough to call them different games. Well Duh, if they were not then this game would be called Naruto These games do have enough similarity in order to allow seperate rules to allow interplay between the two games. However, the idea that you have to play by seperate rules in order to play against the Naruto CCG should bring about the idea that the games are different enough to say that they are indeed different games. Well I would hope so that game would have some different rules than Naruto if Bandai is going to put all this effort into this game otherwise they would just make an expansion of this as part of Naruto

What I'm trying to say is that yes this game is different from Naruto, but they are not COMPLETELY different games.

[CaMeRoN]

What I'm trying to say is that yes this game is different from Naruto, but they are not COMPLETELY different games.

I can agree with that.

It was bad wording on my part. I shouldn't have said "completely". It wasn't what I was trying to convey and I shouldn't have said it as it didn't reinforce my point.

[Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Buu]

I can agree with that.

It was bad wording on my part. I shouldn't have said "completely". It wasn't what I was trying to convey and I shouldn't have said it as it didn't reinforce my point.

Ok then, I guess we can leave it at that and call it truce:D

[CaMeRoN]

Ok then, I guess we can leave it at that and call it truce:D

Sounds good to me :)

[user_name]

are there any differences between the DBZ and naruto game

[blood-god]

as far as

Characters Have In-Game Transformations

this is the same as growth in naruto in my opinion

[Dawn Bringer]

are there any differences between the DBZ and naruto game

maybe you should read the rules and find out
'wish cards' maybe

[CaMeRoN]

as far as

Characters Have In-Game Transformations

this is the same as growth in naruto in my opinion

If In-Game transformations are the same as growth, why do growth coins transfer over to the newly transformed character? They are seperate mechanics.

[user_name]

maybe you should read the rules and find out
'wish cards' maybe

ok yah i would but for some reason i cant get it to load up

[CaMeRoN]

ok yah i would but for some reason i cant get it to load up

Try installing Adobe Acrobat Reader.

[user_name]

i already had that on my computer and it still isn't working

[soviet prince]

are there any differences between the DBZ and naruto game

yes there are plenty of diffrences Cameron listed a few in this thread

[majingogeta344]

Ok then, I guess we can leave it at that and call it truce:D

Sounds good to me :)

Wow that Back-and-Forth was Epic!

[Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Buu]

Wow that Back-and-Forth was Epic!

Yeah I know, isn't it fun to be a bystander;) That's how it's like at lunch everyday with Greg and Ryan.

[majingogeta344]

Yeah I know, isn't it fun to be a bystander;) That's how it's like at lunch everyday with Greg and Ryan.

It seemed like someone was going to get hurt for a second.

[soviet prince]

It seemed like someone was going to get hurt for a second.
I have seen worse on fourms

[CaMeRoN]

I have seen worse on fourms

I think he was referring to his friends Greg and Ryan.

[Shinfitz]

I can agree with that.

It was bad wording on my part. I shouldn't have said "completely". It wasn't what I was trying to convey and I shouldn't have said it as it didn't reinforce my point.

I didn't make it clear enough when I capitalized 'completely' in my original message?

In any case, seems that everyone is on the same page now anyway.

So, what does everyone think of that 'Fierce' and 'Plunder' key words?

I'm really liking 'Plunder' to speed up playing a Wish.

[soviet prince]

plunder makes the game have a dbish feel

[Nova]

I think this version definately feels alot more like the show than the other ones. I like fierce alot. I think if there is enough characters with it; it might be interesting.

[soviet prince]

I think this version definately feels alot more like the show than the other ones. I like fierce alot. I think if there is enough characters with it; it might be interesting.
yeah alt win conditions are always good

[CaMeRoN]

I didn't make it clear enough when I capitalized 'completely' in my original message?

I didn't reply that to you. When I originally replied to you I was replying to the fact that you said that there were more similarities to Naruto in this game than differences. Nothing else.

So, what does everyone think of that 'Fierce' and 'Plunder' key words?

I'm really liking 'Plunder' to speed up playing a Wish.

I really like them too :) Seems liek we'll be able to play a wish card once per round.

I imagine the characters with the keyword fierce won't have very good stats.

[Bunnyslayer]

I didn't reply that to you. When I originally replied to you I was replying to the fact that you said that there were more similarities to Naruto in this game than differences. Nothing else.



I really like them too :) Seems liek we'll be able to play a wish card once per round.

I imagine the characters with the keyword fierce won't have very good stats.

-__- Why wouldn't they have good stats then there would be no way for them to win victories...Then the mechanics is useless.

[CaMeRoN]

-__- Why wouldn't they have good stats then there would be no way for them to win victories...Then the mechanics is useless.

They can't have good stats because the mechanic would be broken. The game already focus' heavily on milling. You can charge a card from your deck per turn, you draw a card from yoru deck every turn, and your deck is limited to 40. That is a mill environment. If the stats of the warriors with fierce keywords were high then it would create a lot problems.

[Bunnyslayer]

They can't have good stats because the mechanic would be broken. The game already focus' heavily on milling. You can charge a card from your deck per turn, you draw a card from yoru deck every turn, and your deck is limited to 40. That is a mill environment. If the stats of the warriors with fierce keywords were high then it would create a lot problems.

No body said they had to be hig but they will have to be normal and it would not be broken if the max amount of cards you mill is 3-4 every victory...

[CaMeRoN]

No body said they had to be hig but they will have to be normal and it would not be broken if the max amount of cards you mill is 3-4 every victory...

I don't know man. If you are milling 3-4 cards every turn thanks to those effects then that's about 5-6 cards every turn. Then you can take into account events and techniques. Who knows oO I'm probably taking a defensive stance to them for nothing but I'm really not a fan of Mill oO

P.S. Go on Aim if you want to discuss this >_>

[Nova]

I think alternate ways of victory is great. My favorite time in the old z was the couple of months after cell games when backlash and dragons victory were released. I think the fierce characters should and probably will be about average strength and they will probably only have a fierce of 1 or 2. I don't think it will be viable until a couple sets down the line when we have a bigger card pool.

[soviet prince]

I don't know man. If you are milling 3-4 cards every turn thanks to those effects then that's about 5-6 cards every turn. Then you can take into account events and techniques. Who knows oO I'm probably taking a defensive stance to them for nothing but I'm really not a fan of Mill oO

P.S. Go on Aim if you want to discuss this >_>
yeah but the time you get your opponet milled you will be close to 10 br anyway. i am actually hoping fierce decks are good enough to use but not overpowered

[gammerx]

cameron - doesnt that mean you have a faster clock? you gave to create a deck and use skill to manipulate around getting beat in a mill environment. Besides that, there will probably only be few warriors with fierce.

[Nova]

right, it will probably be 3-4 sets until it is even playable

[gammerx]

you mean 3-4 sets before it becomes how cameron described it,

[Bunnyslayer]

Yeah like you guys said at first there probably won't be too many guys with the fierce effect but later down the line we will get more and a viable deck can be made. Most guys will probably only mill 1-2(MAAAYBE a 3 in the higher drops)

Also i expect a Wish card will be relased that shuffles your discard into your deck making it harder for the feirce deck to beat you. if fierce decks do become REALLY stron g i am sure that everyone can just toss those into thier wish decks and have very little to worry about.

[CaMeRoN]

Yeah like you guys said at first there probably won't be too many guys with the fierce effect but later down the line we will get more and a viable deck can be made. Most guys will probably only mill 1-2(MAAAYBE a 3 in the higher drops)

Also i expect a Wish card will be relased that shuffles your discard into your deck making it harder for the feirce deck to beat you. if fierce decks do become REALLY stron g i am sure that everyone can just toss those into thier wish decks and have very little to worry about.

Yeah, I imagine the deck won't be broken until a couple sets into the game. We might see a couple warriors in set 1 that will completely break the mechanic compared to the other warriors in the set. Your right Slayer, most guys will probably only have a fierce of 1-2.

They better make that wish card :o Otherwise, I won't be too happy :(

[Bunnyslayer]

Yeah, I imagine the deck won't be broken until a couple sets into the game. We might see a couple warriors in set 1 that will completely break the mechanic compared to the other warriors in the set. Your right Slayer, most guys will probably only have a fierce of 1-2.

They better make that wish card :o Otherwise, I won't be too happy :(

No one ever said the deck would be broken...I said IF it becomes Broken...The only game I have ever seen a mill deck become stupidly broken was Inuyasha because you played characters by paying a certain amount of card from the top of your deck for each.

As long as nearly all the characters only have a fierce of 1 or 2 there shouldn't be a problem even if the wish card isn't made. Not saying the deck won't be good but I doubt that it will be too good.

[CaMeRoN]

No one ever said the deck would be broken...I said IF it becomes Broken...The only game I have ever seen a mill deck become stupidly broken was Inuyasha because you played characters by paying a certain amount of card from the top of your deck for each.

As long as nearly all the characters only have a fierce of 1 or 2 there shouldn't be a problem even if the wish card isn't made. Not saying the deck won't be good but I doubt that it will be too good.

I didn't say anyone had said that the deck would be broken. I made that prediction all on my own. oO Yu-Gi-Oh! had a pretty broken mill format going a couple times.

Yeah, if they keep those restrictions then it should be okay.

[soviet prince]

Yeah like you guys said at first there probably won't be too many guys with the fierce effect but later down the line we will get more and a viable deck can be made. Most guys will probably only mill 1-2(MAAAYBE a 3 in the higher drops)

Also i expect a Wish card will be relased that shuffles your discard into your deck making it harder for the feirce deck to beat you. if fierce decks do become REALLY stron g i am sure that everyone can just toss those into thier wish decks and have very little to worry about.

yeah that will be a great way to balance mill out

[CaMeRoN]

yeah that will be a great way to balance mill out

Yup, it'll work :D

[Goldenwill]

wow, Now i cannot wait to see more cards. Now that we can actually dissect them a know 100% what a good card is and what is not. These rules really impressed me. Little more complex, maybe there aiming for a little higher age group with this one then naruto originally did. If thats the case :)!!

[Nova]

what do you think the average age of players will be for this game?

[soviet prince]

what do you think the average age of players will be for this game?

no idea, IMO anyone can play TCG no matter of age

[CaMeRoN]

no idea, IMO anyone can play TCG no matter of age

Yeah, although I would think that mostly die-hard fans will play. Therefor 18-25.

[Nova]

yea, you always have a couple younger people playing. I was just kinda worried I am going to be the oldest person playing.

[soviet prince]

well how old are you

[Nova]

I'm Twenty Two

[CaMeRoN]

I'm Twenty Two

Holaye, someones a dinosaur :o

[Kaio-ken x10]

Holaye, someones a dinosaur :o

daaang, he's not THAT old....actually he's not old at all, lol

[Nova]

daaang, he's not THAT old....actually he's not old at all, lol


so how old is everyone else?

[soviet prince]

I am 19 but we better not turn this thread into an age thread, the mods may not like it lol :P

[CaMeRoN]

daaang, he's not THAT old....actually he's not old at all, lol

Haha, I was kidding :p Darn forums and their inability to readily express emotion!

I'll be 20 in two weeks :)

[Nova]

atleast I wont look like a pedophile then. :)

[soviet prince]

yea, you always have a couple younger people playing. I was just kinda worried I am going to be the oldest person playing.

atleast I wont look like a pedophile then. :)

you are never to old fo TCG no matter what anyone tells you.

[Nova]

when i went to the first old z regional at diecon there was about a handful of people that were 30 and over that were playing and then I noticed as the game went on they started to disappear. I guess they felt weird because there was alot of younger kids back then because it was right when dbz was on cartoon network at like 430 in the afternoon.

[gammerx]

Yea, it sucks for me because I'm 14 but its hard to find other people that I can play with. Many TCG players are 20+ (magic, yugioh, naruto is a little younger but...) They don't like to play with parents around but my parents don't want to leave me alone with them =\ Back on topic, I am a big fan of DBZ, I remember watching Freiza episodes on cartoon network, and i have most of the GT DVDs...I think I've also played all the DBZ video games :P Really anyone can play TCGs, its fun, strategic and adults should enjoy it as much as kids.

[soviet prince]

when i went to the first old z regional at diecon there was about a handful of people that were 30 and over that were playing and then I noticed as the game went on they started to disappear. I guess they felt weird because there was alot of younger kids back then because it was right when dbz was on cartoon network at like 430 in the afternoon.
to quit becuse of age is stupid you should quit when the game is no longer fun for you anymore.

[CaMeRoN]

to quit becuse of age is stupid you should quit when the game is no longer fun for you anymore.

Exactly. Companies may place an age on the packs but that really doesn't apply outside common social practice. A lot of the people you see going to big tournaments are die-hard fans who are older (16+). The only time that I think it would be worth quitting playing TCG's is either because I cannot afford it, my spouse / partner doesn't openly support it, or it is taking up too much of my time.

[soviet prince]

I would not quit becus of spouse either becuse you should not live your life based on other ppl standards, if they like you they will accept your hobby's.

[Nova]

I'm not sure why they quit. They rarely made top 16 so maybe losing just wasn't fun to them.

[CaMeRoN]

I'm not sure why they quit. They rarely made top 16 so maybe losing just wasn't fun to them.

That sounds very probable. A lot of older players are usually playing their CCG at a competative level. If they can't seem to make it work for them then they usually lose their will to play.

I would not quit becus of spouse either becuse you should not live your life based on other ppl standards, if they like you they will accept your hobby's.

If you had to choose between the reproductive act and card games, which would you choose?

[gammerx]

That sounds very probable. A lot of older players are usually playing their CCG at a competative level. If they can't seem to make it work for them then they usually lose their will to play.



If you had to choose between the reproductive act and card games, which would you choose?

at 19, i don't think he wants a kid :rolleyes:

[CaMeRoN]

at 19, i don't think he wants a kid :rolleyes:

Haha, okay well I'm going to drop that argument since it's not PG.

[soviet prince]

at 19, i don't think he wants a kid :rolleyes:

correct I have enough probs know without a kid lol. Also like I said if they like you they will look past your hobbies and like you for who you are.

[kamiccolo]

when i went to the first old z regional at diecon there was about a handful of people that were 30 and over that were playing and then I noticed as the game went on they started to disappear. I guess they felt weird because there was alot of younger kids back then because it was right when dbz was on cartoon network at like 430 in the afternoon.

I doubt they quit just because kids played, the probably quit because they were losing to the kids.

Yea, it sucks for me because I'm 14 but its hard to find other people that I can play with. Many TCG players are 20+ (magic, yugioh, naruto is a little younger but...) They don't like to play with parents around but my parents don't want to leave me alone with them =\

14 :confused: Your parents need to let go a little bit, that age is old enough for you to be able to take care of yourself...

[CaMeRoN]

I doubt they quit just because kids played, the probably quit because they were losing to the kids.

Haha, probably :p

14 :confused: Your parents need to let go a little bit, that age is old enough for you to be able to take care of yourself...

Yeah, some parents are really over protective :(

[gammerx]

Its really my mom, I mean I hunt with my dad (yes i own a few guns) but my mom doesnt even let me handle raw meat :rolleyes: but yeah I think this game will be better then naruto because it seems like you need to play smarter and have better skills, you have to answer to cards faster or else you will be screwed

[CaMeRoN]

Its really my mom, I mean I hunt with my dad (yes i own a few guns) but my mom doesnt even let me handle raw meat :rolleyes: but yeah I think this game will be better then naruto because it seems like you need to play smarter and have better skills, you have to answer to cards faster or else you will be screwed

Yeah, it does seem quite fast-paced.

[soviet prince]

Yeah, it does seem quite fast-paced.
but we can't tell untill we get some demo decks

[gammerx]

but it does play similar to naruto but with elements that naturally make it faster and more intense (like the new mechanics)

[CaMeRoN]

but we can't tell untill we get some demo decks

I don't see how that factors into it.

You can tell its going to be a fast-paced game by looking at the mechanics.

[soviet prince]

I don't see how that factors into it.

You can tell its going to be a fast-paced game by looking at the mechanics.

you never know untill you tried though.:D

[CaMeRoN]

you never know untill you tried though.:D

Haha, yeah. Theory is always good but you never know if that theory is true unless you test it out :D

[soviet prince]

yeah sometimes things are not always like they appear to be.

[CaMeRoN]

yeah sometimes things are not always like they appear to be.

I really hate it when that happens. You spend time thinking up a theory and building the deck and then it doesn't work. It's frustrating :(

[soviet prince]

yeah(reminaces(sp) about the reanimation deck I made for Naruto)

[CaMeRoN]

yeah(reminaces(sp) about the reanimation deck I made for Naruto)

Haha, didn't work out so hot as you planned?

[soviet prince]

Haha, didn't work out so hot as you planned?
no it needed some major tweaks

[CaMeRoN]

no it needed some major tweaks

Aww :( Sorry to hear that man. Failure stinks but at least we usually learn from our mistakes ^^

[soviet prince]

Aww :( Sorry to hear that man. Failure stinks but at least we usually learn from our mistakes ^^
I would not say it failded just did not live up to what I expected.

[CaMeRoN]

I would not say it failded just did not live up to what I expected.

I can sympathize with that. I made a deck destruction deck back when I played Naruto and thought it would wreck. However, it didn't make much of a dent if anything :( It was really depressing. That was around the time that freedori was rampaging.

[soviet prince]

It says in the rulebook if you don't pay for a tech that is on a chain it goes to chi, do you think that will be an extra chance to dicard from your hand to chi.

[CaMeRoN]

It says in the rulebook if you don't pay for a tech that is on a chain it goes to chi, do you think that will be an extra chance to dicard from your hand to chi.

You posted this exact same thing in another topic =\

I wouldn't call it discarding from your hand but based on the rule I'd say it play out something to that effect.

[soviet prince]

I posted this first but decided it should be posted in the chi section.