New Shonen Jump Has Pics of DBZ Cards

[masesq]

I just received the new Shonen Jump in the mail yesterday and it had a one page article on the new Dragonball CCR from Bandai. The info didn't say anything we didn't know already, but it showed pics of some of the cards.

[Zero]

I just received the new Shonen Jump in the mail yesterday and it had a one page article on the new Dragonball CCR from Bandai. The info didn't say anything we didn't know already, but it showed pics of some of the cards.

SCAN IT PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

[Chronomaster]

SCAN IT PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

Second. Or come over to my house with the magazine.

WHAT YOU SHOULD DO: Do what any sane person would do, and scan the images, duplicate them, and make a makeshift demo deck.

If anything, since I believe there might be legal trouble, at least describe the template.

[CaMeRoN]

Yeah, please SCAN it :D It's the march issue? I'll see if i have it oO

[masesq]

I am at work so I can't scan them. It shows Goku, Krillin, Frieza, Pic, and I don't remember. The cards look really close to the Naruto cards. The only thing it said that has not been released is the first series is only DB and DBZ no GT yet.

[CaMeRoN]

I am at work so I can't scan them. It shows Goku, Krillin, Frieza, Pic, and I don't remember. The cards look really close to the Naruto cards. The only thing it said that has not been released is the first series is only DB and DBZ no GT yet.

What issue?

[masesq]

No scanner and the Shonen Jump is at home. Anybody that subscribes to Shonen Jump should have it since I received mine.

[CaMeRoN]

No scanner and the Shonen Jump is at home. Anybody that subscribes to Shonen Jump should have it since I received mine.

That's fine but What issue of shonen jump are you talking about?

[Zero]

No scanner and the Shonen Jump is at home. Anybody that subscribes to Shonen Jump should have it since I received mine.

I get mine around the last week of the month generaly, so I should get mine in 4 or 5 days.

[CaMeRoN]

You guys are ignored my question so I'll assume it's aprils edition.

[missingo]

What cards?

More importantly SCAN IT!

[SAI]

Hmm, just popped over from the Naruto Forums to see what all the commotion is about. Definitely good luck to this game, I'll be interested to see how it develops. :D

[CaMeRoN]

What cards?

More importantly SCAN IT!

He/She cannot scan it as he/she is at work.

Hmm, just popped over from the Naruto Forums to see what all the commotion is about. Definitely good luck to this game, I'll be interested to see how it develops.
Thanks, I hope it develops nicely ^^

[Kintaro]

Me to!!

Hey SAI!! YAY for me, I'm spreading the disease!!

[CaMeRoN]

Me to!!

Hey SAI!! YAY for me, I'm spreading the disease!!

Disease hurts my lungs :( Keep away please.

[gotenxss3ftw!]

That's fine but What issue of shonen jump are you talking about?

It's obviously May, since April is coming up.

Also, my Shonen Jump usually comes last Monday of teh month, so I should get it soon, can't wait!

[CaMeRoN]

It's obviously May, since April is coming up.

Also, my Shonen Jump usually comes last Monday of teh month, so I should get it soon, can't wait!

Ah, okay. Thanks for the information gotenxss3ftw! I appreciate you letting know :D

[soviet prince]

How similar is it to Naruto is it turn based, how does attack power work. come on I am thristing for more info :D

[Bunnyslayer]

Please post scans when you get home O_O

[CaMeRoN]

How similar is it to Naruto is it turn based, how does attack power work. come on I am thristing for more info :D

The rulebook hasn't been released so we can't really say for sure man. In the european game they used something called PA. There were no teams but the blocking and attacking system is the same as Naruto. If your PA is higher than your opponents than you win the battle.

[Goldenwill]

Yes.. Agreed.. Pls Pst Pics ASAP!! The anticipation is killing me..


BILL

[gotenxss3ftw!]

The rulebook hasn't been released so we can't really say for sure man. In the european game they used something called PA. There were no teams but the blocking and attacking system is the same as Naruto. If your PA is higher than your opponents than you win the battle.
Sounds like pretty much every other attacking card game. Your power wins, you win.

[CaMeRoN]

Sounds like pretty much every other attacking card game. Your power wins, you win.

Isn't that how you win a fight though? If my punch crushes your face I win, right? :P

[soviet prince]

The rulebook hasn't been released so we can't really say for sure man. In the european game they used something called PA. There were no teams but the blocking and attacking system is the same as Naruto. If your PA is higher than your opponents than you win the battle.

well I was wondering since he seen the cards if he can infer some mech. based on what he seen.

[Kintaro]

Yes, it is the April issue.

Freiza
6/4 5/1
Plunder
[Auto]: (Passive Ability)Your opponent's Warrior's with an entrance cost below or equal to 2 cannot block this team.
T6, H1

Goku
4/2 5/0
Super Recovery
[Auto]: When this card is put into play, put 1 Dragon Ball on it.
T4, H0

Krillin
T3, H0
Plunder
The rest is blocked off, ability is similar to Freiza's apparently.

Cell
4/3 0/0
[Mission] (When deployed): You can discard your in-play #17 or #18. In that case place 2 +1/0 coins on this Warrior.
T3 H1

Piccolo
5/3 2/0
Toughness 2
[Mission] Valid: You can discard 2 cards from your hand. In that case, heal this Warrior.
T4, H0

Cool!! Thanks for these!! Looks a lot like Naruto to me!!

[YondaimeZero]

Yes, it is the April issue.

Freiza
6/4 5/1
Plunder
[Auto]: Your opponent's Warrior's with an entrance cost below or equal to 2 cannot block this team.
T6, H1

Goku
4/2 5/0
Super Recovery
[Auto]: When this card is put into play, put 1 Dragon Ball on it.
T4, H0

Krillin
T3, H0
Plunder
The rest is blocked off, ability is similar to Freiza's apparently.

Cell
4/3 0/0
[Mission] You can discard your in-play "Android #17" or "Android #18". In that case place 2 (Re-inforcement) +1/0 coins on this Warrior.
T3 H1

Piccolo
5/3 2/0
Toughness 2
[Mission] Valid: You can discard 2 cards from your hand. In that case, heal this Warrior.
T4, H0

The cards look nearly the same as Naruto.

[soviet prince]

Yes, it is the April issue.

Freiza
6/4 5/1
Plunder
[Auto]: (Passive Ability)Your opponent's Warrior's with an entrance cost below or equal to 2 cannot block this team.
T6, H1

Goku
4/2 5/0
Super Recovery
[Auto]: When this card is put into play, put 1 Dragon Ball on it.
T4, H0

Krillin
T3, H0
Plunder
The rest is blocked off, ability is similar to Freiza's apparently.

Cell
4/3 0/0
[Mission] (When deployed): You can discard your in-play #17 or #18. In that case place 2 +1/0 coins on this Warrior.
T3 H1

Piccolo
5/3 2/0
Toughness 2
[Mission] Valid: You can discard 2 cards from your hand. In that case, heal this Warrior.
T4, H0

dang this confirms teams :(

[YondaimeZero]

NP Everyone. It looks to be like Naruto, but it has a different feel to it so far. It doesn't have elements, but like; Goku says Super, Freiza says Alien, Cell says Villain, Piccolo says Evil, while Krillin says Earth. Yeah.... (FYI, these are all base form people a.k.a. no Final Form Cell, except for Freiza, he's Final Form. Personally, I think Freiza's pretty nutty for a first set, he's like VG Sandaime. Hates on Tempo builds.

[CaMeRoN]

dang this confirms teams :(

Ugh, that's dissapointing. :(

Do they have elements or combat attributes?

[SSJ2 Gohan]

please post pics must see if im gonna buy or not

[soviet prince]

NP Everyone. It looks to be like Naruto, but it has a different feel to it so far. It doesn't have elements, but like; Goku says Super, Freiza says Alien, Cell says Villain, Piccolo says Evil, while Krillin says Earth. Yeah.... (FYI, these are all base form people a.k.a. no Final Form Cell, except for Freiza, he's Final Form. Personally, I think Freiza's pretty nutty for a first set, he's like VG Sandaime. Hates on Tempo builds.

do you have the mgizine if so can you scan it.

[CaMeRoN]

please post pics must see if im gonna buy or not

Hopefully some pics will show up later in the week. I wouldn't expect any too soon though.

[Great_Ape_TEM]

So having teams is your idea of saying the game is just like Naruto?

Well I guess Zatch Bell card game is just like Naruto also I mean there was a teams pretty much


Hey, we don't need ur mean sarcasm =/ lawlz

But you got a point thar cuz i dont like how ppl are going "OMG THIS GAME IS LIKE NARUTO" when the game didn't even come out yet.

and good point about the zatch bell thing. that basically had teams as well, but indirectly.

[Super Saiyan 2 Goku]

So having teams is your idea of saying the game is just like Naruto?

Well I guess Zatch Bell card game is just like Naruto also I mean there was a teams pretty much

[Kintaro]

So having teams is your idea of saying the game is just like Naruto?

Well I guess Zatch Bell card game is just like Naruto also I mean there was a teams pretty much

What? Did you ever play ZB? There wasn't anyting team about it. You could have more than one Mamodo, but there were no teams....

Besides, someone posted the card stats from the shonen jump, and removed all doubt. It's pretty much naruto....

[drizzt001]

cant wait for the game hope its fun.

ps. we want pics

[soviet prince]

So having teams is your idea of saying the game is just like Naruto?

Well I guess Zatch Bell card game is just like Naruto also I mean there was a teams pretty much

Teams, health and injured stats are something that comes to mind to.

[Super Saiyan 2 Goku]

What? Did you ever play ZB? There wasn't anyting team about it. You could have more than one Mamodo, but there were no teams....

Besides, someone posted the card stats from the shonen jump, and removed all doubt. It's pretty much naruto....

Yes I did the play

But I guess Zatch and Kiyo aren't a team. I wodner are they student and teacher? Are they father and son? Are they god and god's servant? Hmm I wonder

[Kintaro]

This feels somewhat iffy. Pics or it didn't happen.

HEHE word.

[Chronomaster]

This feels somewhat iffy. Pics or it didn't happen.

Notice Cell and Goku have similar abilities (comes into play), but use different wordings to achieve the same thing.

[Kintaro]

Yes I did the play

But I guess Zatch and Kiyo aren't a team. I wodner are they student and teacher? Are they father and son? Are they god and god's servant? Hmm I wonder

:rolleyes:

Not REMOTELY the same, chief. Not remotely.

Stop being rude and READ!! Really...pay attention to what's going on around you.

[yamcha]

i agree chronomaster, can't be two hard to scan a couple pictures

[Suhio]

Unless they completly changed it from the one in Europe/Asia, this is a lie.
http://www.carddass.fr/dbz/liste_cartes_s7.htm
The europeein cards dont look anything like naruto cards...

[Super Saiyan 2 Goku]

:rolleyes:

Not REMOTELY the same, chief. Not remotely.

Stop being rude and READ!! Really...pay attention to what's going on around you.

Honestly what are they? They can't be a team, then what are they? Are they brothers? Sensei and student? or maybe one is a wishmaster and the other a terminator?

[Great_Ape_TEM]

What? Did you ever play ZB? There wasn't anyting team about it. You could have more than one Mamodo, but there were no teams....

Besides, someone posted the card stats from the shonen jump, and removed all doubt. It's pretty much naruto....

Dude ZB CCG did have teams, but indirectly. Did you ever play ZB? Your three mamodos on the field and partner cards all have to work together in strategies just like a team so you can win battles in the card game. ZB had teams dude. =/

[Kintaro]

Honestly what are they? They can't be a team, then what are they? Are they brothers? Sensei and student? or maybe one is a wishmaster and the other a terminator?

Henestly, are you mental? Is something wrong with your processing facilities? Were you dropped on your head as a baby?
Maybe you just came over here to be rude to everyone and try to start fights?

BTW, in the SHOW and the MANGA and the GAME, they were referred to as Mamono (Japanese version)/Mamodo(US craporama) and Book-keeper/partner. NOT TEAMS. And even if they were, team based NARUTO and team based DBCCG are NOTHING like what you're trying to promote as a "team". :rolleyes:

[Chronomaster]

i agree chronomaster, can't be two hard to scan a couple pictures

Rule of the internet: When someone has hard evidence, they'll present every excuse in the book to prevent from revealing it.

[Kintaro]

Dude ZB CCG did have teams, but indirectly. Did you ever play ZB? Your three mamodos on the field and partner cards all have to work together in strategies just like a team so you can win battles in the card game. ZB had teams dude. =/

I currently play it as a side game, and sorry, one spell at a time does NOT equal teams. The closest it has would be the sacrifice mech, and in this case, that's iffy at best as a description of a "team" :D

Besides, he was comparing Naruto teams - as in head and support - to something that's not even remotely like naruto, just to further his uneducated agenda.

[Super Saiyan 2 Goku]

Henestly, are you mental? Is something wrong with your processing facilities? Were you dropped on your head as a baby?
Maybe you just came over here to be rude to everyone and try to start fights?

BTW, in the SHOW and the MANGA and the GAME, they were referred to as Mamono (Japanese version)/Mamodo(US craporama) and Book-keeper/partner. NOT TEAMS. And even if they were, team based NARUTO and team based DBCCG are NOTHING like what you're trying to promote as a "team". :rolleyes:

Right becvause a partner isnt a team right? Kiyo and Zatch hated each other they only were partners because they had to be

[Suhio]

Right becvause a partner isnt a team right? Kiyo and Zatch hated each other they only were partners because they had to be

He means as in Game mechanics terms -_-

[soviet prince]

lets not turn this thread into a flam war, don't want this thread to be locked do you?

[Great_Ape_TEM]

I currently play it as a side game, and sorry, one spell at a time does NOT equal teams. The closest it has would be the sacrifice mech, and in this case, that's iffy at best as a description of a "team" :D

Besides, he was comparing Naruto teams - as in head and support - to something that's not even remotely like naruto, just to further his uneducated agenda.

There's still strategy involved dude. As I said, the card game had teams indirectly. And someone was comparing the Naruto and DBZ card game as the same just because it has teams. I hate how everyone here is comparing the two card games when the DBZ card game didn't even come out yet. Comparing them are pointless at the moment.

BTW

"Henestly, are you mental? Is something wrong with your processing facilities? Were you dropped on your head as a baby?"

I know you were talking to Super Saiyan 2 Goku, but there's no need for fail insults in a debate/argument. It only makes you look like an ***. We're not in middle school you know. =/ (cept maybe some members here are XD)

[drizzt001]

Back on topic; For those who wern't around 4 hours ago. The person who originally told us that the cards were in May's issue of shounen jump is at work. He has said that he will post the scan when he gets home. Let's all be patient and wait for him to post it. I want to see the card as much as the next person so let's be patient. :)

yeah complaning about it wont get them up any faster.

[CaMeRoN]

Back on topic; For those who wern't around 4 hours ago. The person who originally told us that the cards were in May's issue of shounen jump is at work. He has said that he will post the scan when he gets home. Let's all be patient and wait for him to post it. I want to see the card as much as the next person so let's be patient. :)

[Kintaro]

Right becvause a partner isnt a team right? Kiyo and Zatch hated each other they only were partners because they had to be

At first, yeah....they were because they HAD to be ...yeesh.

Again, what's wrong with you? I thought you were comparing this to Naruto to further your bull**** agenda......now you want to meander into something we weren't even talking about? :rolleyes:

You want to talk about a partnership being a "team", then, ok, good for you! Yay! You know something....

But you want to talk about this and Naruto CCG and compare that with these...well, then....your posts simply prove my point.

The Naruto CCG has teams who consist of a head ninja, and one or more (up to two) support ninja(s). All power is added together.
So far, what I see of the DBCCG - including some card stats - alludes to the fact that it's likely going to be team based as well - but the SAME TYPE OF TEAMS AS NARUTO. Not a little critter and another guy tenuously backing him. Yeesh.

BTW, we're SPECULATING ......and those SPECUALTIONS are based on current DATA. You're just trying to shoot down everyone's spec's cos you're jelous that you didn't get it yourself.

This was a jumpin fun forum till you crashed it. Stop trying to assert yourself by being a rude boy, and back up what you say - IE ZB and NARUTO CCG are the same.

Can't do it, because they AREN'T.

Arguing with you is pointless, since your mind clearly isn't open enough to consider the posibility that OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED COMPATIBILITY, along with posted card stats = cool game similar to Naruto.

AND for the record NOT A ONE OF US CLAIMED IT WAS "IDENTICLE"

Back on topic; For those who wern't around 4 hours ago. The person who originally told us that the cards were in May's issue of shounen jump is at work. He has said that he will post the scan when he gets home. Let's all be patient and wait for him to post it. I want to see the card as much as the next person so let's be patient. :)

QFT, brothah, QFT

[Great_Ape_TEM]

This was a jumpin fun forum till you crashed it. Stop trying to assert yourself by being a rude boy, and back up what you say - IE ZB and NARUTO CCG are the same.

Can't do it, because they AREN'T.


Naruto CCG and DBZ CCG aren't the same either, yet so many people here seem to think so. =/

[Kintaro]

lets not turn this thread into a flam war, don't want this thread to be locked do you?

No.....hopefully he'll lay off. I just severly dislike people who are rude just for the sake of bein rude, y'know?

[Kintaro]

There's still strategy involved dude. As I said, the card game had teams indirectly. And someone was comparing the Naruto and DBZ card game as the same just because it has teams. I hate how everyone here is comparing the two card games when the DBZ card game didn't even come out yet. Comparing them are pointless at the moment.

BTW

"Henestly, are you mental? Is something wrong with your processing facilities? Were you dropped on your head as a baby?"

I know you were talking to Super Saiyan 2 Goku, but there's no need for fail insults in a debate/argument. It only makes you look like an ***. We're not in middle school you know. =/ (cept maybe some members here are XD)
Cool, yeah, I can accept "indirectly" :p

And yeah, I let the rude boy get the better of me. Watching him chug around the forums being an *** himself, and then starting in on me..?
Frustration FTL....:o

But hey, now he's on ignore hehe I am a happy Kin-chan again ><;

[Great_Ape_TEM]

Cool, yeah, I can accept "indirectly" :p

And yeah, I let the rude boy get the better of me. Watching him chug around the forums being an *** himself, and then starting in on me..?
Frustration FTL....:o

But hey, now he's on ignore hehe I am a happy Kin-chan again ><;

ok...w/e

BTW...

Kin-chan? WTF?

Are you Japanese? Or do you just like to call yourself that because your obsessed with Japan and anything Japanese is cool to you?

[Kintaro]

If they're going to make this system like another system, bring back Gundam War. I play Naruto to play Naruto. I don't want to play Dragonball to play Naruto.

That's my two cents on the Naruto/Dragonball bit.

At first, over in the Naruto GF, I was saying the same thing.....now...hmmm....

Maybe you should lobby for them to grab the Gundam liscence ><;

[Chronomaster]

If they're going to make this system like another system, bring back Gundam War. I play Naruto to play Naruto. I don't want to play Dragonball to play Naruto.

That's my two cents on the Naruto/Dragonball bit. Uniqueness is a very necessary thing.

[soviet prince]

No.....hopefully he'll lay off. I just severly dislike people who are rude just for the sake of bein rude, y'know?

I know what you mean, in my long history of message boards I have ran into alot of ppl like that.

[YondaimeZero]

Slightly updated first post. I completely agree with Chrono.

[Card Slinger J]

If they're going to make this system like another system, bring back Gundam War. I play Naruto to play Naruto. I don't want to play Dragonball to play Naruto.

That's my two cents on the Naruto/Dragonball bit. Uniqueness is a very necessary thing.

QFT, no sense trying to turn the game into something like Marvel/DC Vs. System cause in terms of card games Naruto and DBZ doesn't mesh well together.

I too hold strong towards uniqueness in a card game, and like with Score Entertainment that's a rule that Bandai needs to learn and stick by.

[Kintaro]

ok...w/e

BTW...

Kin-chan? WTF?

Are you Japanese? Or do you just like to call yourself that because your obsessed with Japan and anything Japanese is cool to you?

No it's more of a joke. The name is from a show, and he's constantly reffered to as "Kin-Chan" by all the girlies :p

While I like Japanese stuff (My wife is Japanese, I speak/read/write Japanese, I visit there often, etc), I'm far from obsessed.
I dislike what I refer to as "fanboy/girl Japanese", or these chicks who dress in J-Goth fashion from 5 years ago and talk about themselves as being "in fashion" while looking at the discount (Read:OLD) fashion magazine rack at my local Kinokunia.

I am not what some on the interwebs refer to as a "weeaboo"....or, er, wait - doesn't claiming to NOT be one mean you really are? Gah!! Catch-22!!

hehe:p







But no, really, I'm not.

[Kintaro]

QFT, no sense trying to turn the game into something like Marvel/DC Vs. System cause in terms of card games Naruto and DBZ doesn't mesh well together.

I too hold strong towards uniqueness in a card game, and like with Score Entertainment that's a rule that Bandai needs to learn and stick by.

While I agree with that notion, and was firmly in the DO NOT MAKE THEM ALIKE camp previously, my way of thinking has come around a bit.

So far, it sounds like they are two seperate games, but with enough compatibility that these rumored "side-rules" will allow for some interesting play....

[Great_Ape_TEM]

While I like Japanese stuff (My wife is Japanese, I speak/read/write Japanese, I visit there often, etc)

ROFL You probably only married your wife because she was Japanese.

[Chronomaster]

I am not what some on the interwebs refer to as a "weeaboo"....or, er, wait - doesn't claiming to NOT be one mean you really are? Gah!! Catch-22!!

hehe:p

You did denounce the English version with unbridled passion.

[Kintaro]

You did denounce the English version with unbridled passion.

Yeah I know....I'm like that....

But it was mainly for the lousy acting and HUGE gaps in logic due to the edits...all of which have been toned down.

And I also don't cling to EVERY anime out there. I don't wear headbands (or any other anime gear). I actually REEEEAAAALLY dislike the genre, apart from some really good series'. I dunno - I am very picky. A very picky weeaboo?

Nah.....

[gotenxss3ftw!]

Yes, it is the April issue.

Freiza
6/4 5/1
Plunder
[Auto]: Your opponent's Warrior's with an entrance cost below or equal to 2 cannot block this team.
T6, H1

Goku
4/2 5/0
Super Recovery
[Auto]: When this card is put into play, put 1 Dragon Ball on it.
T4, H0

Krillin
T3, H0
Plunder
The rest is blocked off, ability is similar to Freiza's apparently.

Cell
4/3 0/0
[Mission] You can discard your in-play "Android #17" or "Android #18". In that case place 2 (Re-inforcement) +1/0 coins on this Warrior.
T3 H1

Piccolo
5/3 2/0
Toughness 2
[Mission] Valid: You can discard 2 cards from your hand. In that case, heal this Warrior.
T4, H0

The cards look nearly the same as Naruto.

Can't be teh April issue, the April issue already came out, it's the May issue.

[soviet prince]

While I agree with that notion, and was firmly in the DO NOT MAKE THEM ALIKE camp previously, my way of thinking has come around a bit.

So far, it sounds like they are two seperate games, but with enough compatibility that these rumored "side-rules" will allow for some interesting play....

I did not want them be the same as well but if they are I will live with it, I am sure it being DBZ is enough to keep me playing this game:D

[gotenxss3ftw!]

Hoo boy, the mods are going to have their hands full when they finally come! You guys do know that just because there aren't currently mods doesn't mean that they won't be reading you guys flaming each other and ban you when they come back? Plus, we all know Chrono is a man on the inside ;)

[soviet prince]

Hoo boy, the mods are going to have their hands full when they finally come! You guys do know that just because there aren't currently mods doesn't mean that they won't be reading you guys flaming each other and ban you when they come back? Plus, we all know Chrono is a man on the inside ;)

the Mods are already here some have posted on previous topics.

[Great_Ape_TEM]

ROFL You probably only married your wife because she was Japanese.

*reposted because I want Kintaro to read this =/*

[gotenxss3ftw!]

the Mods are already here some have posted on previous topics.

I know that but they was gone. Holy crap JT is an uber-mod instead of a kage!

[Great_Ape_TEM]

*reported cuz I don't approve of your post or your spamming*


*doesn't care because you aren't a mod and your opinion doesn't matter*

[gotenxss3ftw!]

*reposted because I want Kintaro to read this =/*
*reported cuz I don't approve of your post or your spamming*

[Mr_Flare]

Please keep this thread on topic.

Mr Flare

[Suhio]

*reposted because I want Kintaro to read this =/*

Thats harsh....

[Kintaro]

*reposted because I want Kintaro to read this =/*

HAHAHA!!!

No, I married her because when we met, I thught she was the most beautiful woman I ever seen, and she's just about the coolest friend I've ever had.

Actually, when we first met, I thought she was Korean.....her facial features belie her racial heritage....

[Kintaro]

I know that but they was gone. Holy crap JT is an uber-mod instead of a kage!

Shouldn't he be...er....Super saiyan, or something?

[Great_Ape_TEM]

HAHAHA!!!

No, I married her because when we met, I thught she was the most beautiful woman I ever seen, and she's just about the coolest friend I've ever had.

Actually, when we first met, I thought she was Korean.....her facial features belie her racial heritage....

ROFL you probably eat ramen with her all day while wearing your Naruto headbands and calling all of your friends -chan and -kun.

[Hiro191]

Saiyan-Super Saiyan-Super Saiyan 3

those could be the levels

Then OP people(the Meijins) could be Super Saiyan 4


The Mods and higher up(James and Kim) could Kai's

[soviet prince]

Saiyan-Super Saiyan-Super Saiyan 3

those could be the levels

Then OP people(the Meijins) could be Super Saiyan 4


The Mods and higher up(James and Kim) could Kai's

mods can be the Kai's

nevermind did not read all your post, I feel stupid lol

[soviet prince]

Sadly I don't think there's gonna be any leveling in this game like the Score version from years past. As awesome as that would be I just don't see it in Bandai's version.

atually it can easy be done becuse of the growth mech. in Naruto

[Card Slinger J]

Sadly I don't think there's gonna be any leveling in this game like the Score version from years past. As awesome as that would be I just don't see it in Bandai's version.

[Kintaro]

ROFL you probably eat ramen with her all day while wearing your Naruto headbands and calling all of your friends -chan and -kun.

HAHAHA!!! Ya got me......ya got me.....

Good one!!

I usually laugh at those dorks. We hit a lot of the Japanese festivals around here and such, since I like the people and she likes to meet other Japanese folks in the area, and we see them all. the. time.
Have they no shame? Don't they realize how silly they look?

I DO eat a lot of Japanese food though.....there's some kick ***
J-Restaurants here in the Rose City!!

[Evil Jim]

Just wondering, to anyone that has the SJ, Do the cards have "elements"?

[Card Slinger J]

The elements per say Color Wheel, should be Martial Art Styles like Saiyan and Namekian for example.

[Evil Jim]

The elements per say Color Wheel, should be Martial Art Styles like Saiyan and Namekian for example.

Yeah, I was thinking they might use the Tokui-Waza colors(atleast the basic ones, aka Black, Red, Blue, Orange, then I guess Saiyan).

[YondaimeZero]

Just wondering, to anyone that has the SJ, Do the cards have "elements"?No, I posted a while back, they have something like different allegiances. Alien, Villain, "Super," Earth.

[soviet prince]

No, I posted a while back, they have something like different allegiances. Alien, Villain, "Super," Earth.


does it look like the allegiances will work the same as elements in Naruto or are they just traits.

[Bunnyslayer]

Seriously its late and still no pics :(

[SSJ2 Gohan]

No, I posted a while back, they have something like different allegiances. Alien, Villain, "Super," Earth.

hmmmm i wonder what the Super people could be

[YondaimeZero]

That's the one on Goku's card, but he's not SS or anything, and he's just an odd 4 drop, ok stats, and it gets you a Dragonball apparently, and I'm sorta wondering how those work, but there really seems to be nothing special about the "Super" trait.

[Bunnyslayer]

That's the one on Goku's card, but he's not SS or anything, and he's just an odd 4 drop, ok stats, and it gets you a Dragonball apparently, and I'm sorta wondering how those work, but there really seems to be nothing special about the "Super" trait.

When you collect 7 Dragonballs you can use a wish card.

[Evil Jim]

If I have to take a guess, "Super" will be the Saiyan trait.

[YondaimeZero]

When you collect 7 Dragonballs you can use a wish card.
Yeah, I was just wondering what the Wish cards do to merit the tough requirements.

[Bunnyslayer]

Yeah, I was just wondering what the Wish cards do to merit the tough requirements.

Yeah me too. Most likley something pretty darn worth the trouble...but then again if their are more cahracters/other cards that can tutor for Dbs then they may not be THAT amazing.

[Zero]

Please keep this thread on topic.

Mr Flare

Sigh. I completely resent that I cant sign my name (despite the fact thats its only 4 letters) but the mods can do it. Seriously, That rule is still plainly retarded.

On a side note, The whole Zatchbell thing, Kitaro is right. Partners didnt add support value to their mamodos, and a good number of book types didnt play partners so they arent a "team" mech like we are looking at now.

I'm hoping the spoilers are legit, cause then the transition to DB will be easy.

[Evil Jim]

Well, it seems the Wish cards will be easy to get, since they will be in the starter decks.

[CaMeRoN]

Well, it seems the Wish cards will be easy to get, since they will be in the starter decks.

Definately man. I'm going to split a box of starters with my friends. That way we all get at least one wish promo and one of each starter!

[DNaraku]

I wouldn't mind the game playing similar to Naruto, but I have to say that teams is something DB shouldn't ever do.

[CaMeRoN]

I wouldn't mind the game playing similar to Naruto, but I have to say that teams is something DB shouldn't ever do.

Haha, maybe so. We don't have much of a say in this decision though :P

[soviet prince]

I wouldn't mind the game playing similar to Naruto, but I have to say that teams is something DB shouldn't ever do.

I agree but I geuss we will get used to it.

[Evil Jim]

I dunno if anyone has said it, but looks like Goku is the new Naruto, he gets more powerful after he is injured.

[CaMeRoN]

I agree but I geuss we will get used to it.

It's not all that bad, right? In the old card game there were allies which are essentially the same thing as teammates. Someone on the forum had mentioned earlier that the teams can reflect how the allies teamed with the characters in the show. That's a feasible explanation from my stand point. In every arc throughout this series there are always bystanders who are allies of the person fighting. There were times where they stepped in. It works for me :D

[Goku]

I for one don't mind the team system because like CaMeRon said they did team up in the show sort of. I don't recall the villians teaming up as much though, besides the Ginyu force, so I don't know what kind of support a villian would have. Maybe a bunch of those green martian men that Vegeta and Nappa had.

[CaMeRoN]

I for one don't mind the team system because like CaMeRon said they did team up in the show sort of. I don't recall the villians teaming up as much though, besides the Ginyu force, so I don't know what kind of support a villian would have. Maybe a bunch of those green martian men that Vegeta and Nappa had.

Thanks for the props man. Your right, the villains didn't really team up in the same way that the heroes did. The villains all had underlings which could be considered their allies. The main difference between the hero and villain teams in my opinion is this the villains don't follow a moral code. The underlings have a tendency to hold grudges against their allies while the heroes are all friends. A good example of this would be Babadi had a lot of allies, which he controlled. If he released his mind control then they would have definately not taken orders from him.

[Goku]

Yeah I agree. It would be cool if babadi gets a card and he has almost no attack but gets a big boost from having his controlled underlings as support. Villian teams could definitely work and probably be cool in the process.

[CaMeRoN]

Yeah I agree. It would be cool if babadi gets a card and he has almost no attack but gets a big boost from having his controlled underlings as support. Villian teams could definitely work and probably be cool in the process.

Villains and Heroes will definately work in a team format. I can't really think of a possibility where Goku would be on the same team as Frieza. Maybe in an alternate universe where Goku is evil? Oh well, the combinations are endless! I'm really looking forward to this now :D

Haha, after discussing this topic with you guys I have completely changed my view on teams. Prior to our discussion I was really against teams. I was of the frame of mind that having the same mechanics as the Naruto CCG would make it a bad game. However, I have completely changed that view thanks to the conversations I've been having with the wonderful people here on the forum. Infact, I am promoting it to others who appear to be accepting it :)

[Goku]

Thats great to hear. Me and another friend quit what we playing to jump on this game. We were upset at first when we heard it was sort of like naruto because we wanted something different but hopefully the game will only take the best parts of naruto and do something sort of new. I already like the idea about wish cards instead of instant win. I can't recall goku and the gang ever wishing for instant victory.

[CaMeRoN]

Thats great to hear. Me and another friend quit what we playing to jump on this game. We were upset at first when we heard it was sort of like naruto because we wanted something different but hopefully the game will only take the best parts of naruto and do something sort of new. I already like the idea about wish cards instead of instant win. I can't recall goku and the gang ever wishing for instant victory.

No kidding :p Although reviving your friends from death is a victory in itself ;) I'm sure you and your friend will enjoy this game! I know I will :D

[Shinfitz]

Thats great to hear. Me and another friend quit what we playing to jump on this game. We were upset at first when we heard it was sort of like naruto because we wanted something different but hopefully the game will only take the best parts of naruto and do something sort of new. I already like the idea about wish cards instead of instant win. I can't recall goku and the gang ever wishing for instant victory.

Yeah, I have to agree with this.

I also really like the idea of a Wish Card. It's a great way to create a sense of 'build up' to a powerful card, seeing as you have to control seven dragon balls to use it.

But I wonder how powerful these cards will be...

Seeing as I'm guessing it will be difficult to control seven dragon balls since you can only play one per turn, I believe, and I'm sure they'll be ways to steal and/or discard dragon balls in play.

[Goku]

wow I didn't even think about that, stealing and discarding balls. Makes me wonder how many balls total you can have in a deck and if the seven you collect all have to be different, one of every ball number.

[CaMeRoN]

wow I didn't even think about that, stealing and discarding balls. Makes me wonder how many balls total you can have in a deck and if the seven you collect all have to be different, one of every ball number.

I imagine there will be character cards with abilities that let you search out other dragonballs from your deck. There will undoubtedly be abilities that let you play multiple dragonballs from your hand and deck.

[Evil Jim]

I also was thinking about how DragonBalls might work. Since its suppose to be similar to naruto, maybe a "DragonBall" is a card off the top of your deck(aka a BR). Now, I am not saying they are like BRs from Naruto, just that they work the same. Anther reason I think it might be this is, if its a 40 card deck, I wouldn't want 7 spots taken by the Dragonballs. But if they are cards I would think you an only have 1-7, or 7, depending if they are numbered or just balls.

[CaMeRoN]

I also was thinking about how DragonBalls might work. Since its suppose to be similar to naruto, maybe a "DragonBall" is a card off the top of your deck(aka a BR). Now, I am not saying they are like BRs from Naruto, just that they work the same. Anther reason I think it might be this is, if its a 40 card deck, I wouldn't want 7 spots taken by the Dragonballs. But if they are cards I would think you an only have 1-7, or 7, depending if they are numbered or just balls.

I'm fairly certain that DragonBalls are goign to be a big part of the game. I'd venture to guess that DragonBalls are cards similar to Missions in the Naruto game. They are played, their effect activates, and they stay on the field for the remainder of the game until removed by an effect.

Your theory is interesting but seven cards off the top of your deck could hurt. It would discourage players from using dragonballs and I'm fairly certain that bandai wants to encourage their use. The decks would either have to be bigger which is a bad thing since we are dealing with cards that can only be played on certain turns. I'd say there are too many cons to warrant that method.

[Evil Jim]

I'm fairly certain that DragonBalls are goign to be a big part of the game. I'd venture to guess that DragonBalls are cards similar to Missions in the Naruto game. They are played, their effect activates, and they stay on the field for the remainder of the game until removed by an effect.

Yeah, thats how they where in Scores version. Well, the effect part. Most people that I play against did not use them.

[gotenxss3ftw!]

I still say this is going to turn out to be an even better game than Naruto.

[drizzt001]

I still say this is going to turn out to be an even better game than Naruto.

dont think it will be better but it will be fun.

[Shinfitz]

I'm fairly certain that DragonBalls are goign to be a big part of the game. I'd venture to guess that DragonBalls are cards similar to Missions in the Naruto game. They are played, their effect activates, and they stay on the field for the remainder of the game until removed by an effect.

Your theory is interesting but seven cards off the top of your deck could hurt. It would discourage players from using dragonballs and I'm fairly certain that bandai wants to encourage their use. The decks would either have to be bigger which is a bad thing since we are dealing with cards that can only be played on certain turns. I'd say there are too many cons to warrant that method.

Why would decks have to be bigger?

Because you want to include seven dragon ball cards?

Most likely they will be cards with effects, just like every other card. So having seven of them might not be a disadvantage, or warrant having a bigger deck size.

Plus, everybody is making it out to seem like you MUST play with all seven in your deck, or use any Dragon Balls in your deck at all.

Remember, they'll be played to use whatever effects they have, based on the deck type, as well as to play Wish Cards. If you don't want to do either, don't use any in your deck.

The player who chooses to use the seven Dragon Balls, however, is doing so to gain whatever advantage they, and the Wish Cards, grant, so I don't think because of they exist the deck size should be larger. It's kind'a like playing anywhere from one to seven more Permanent Missions than the opponent.

[Great_Ape_TEM]

HAHAHA!!! Ya got me......ya got me.....

Good one!!

I usually laugh at those dorks. We hit a lot of the Japanese festivals around here and such, since I like the people and she likes to meet other Japanese folks in the area, and we see them all. the. time.
Have they no shame? Don't they realize how silly they look?

I DO eat a lot of Japanese food though.....there's some kick ***
J-Restaurants here in the Rose City!!

Wow...you're not even fun to insult anymore because you can't see when someone is obviously insulting and mocking you. =/

Good day sir.

[Card Slinger J]

I think when Bandai makes this new Dragonball CCG they should make it to where Heroes and Villians don't get mixed in a deck like the Score version but allow Heroes and Rogues to team with eachother.

[DNaraku]

I say we just wwait and see and stop comparing it to Score's version. They will never be the same.

[soviet prince]

I think when Bandai makes this new Dragonball CCG they should make it to where Heroes and Villians don't get mixed in a deck like the Score version but allow Heroes and Rogues to team with eachother.

no they need to mix it gives you more optios,it's really no diffrent from having orochimaru on the same team as naruto in the naruto tcg.

[yamcha]

still no pictures

[SSJ2 Gohan]

dang still no pictures what gives?

[Card Slinger J]

no they need to mix it gives you more optios,it's really no diffrent from having orochimaru on the same team as naruto in the naruto tcg.

The game would be too weird, plus I can't picture Goku teaming up with Frieza. Heroes should stay with Heroes/Rogues and Villains should stay with Villians so that it isn't hard to tell whose good and whose bad.

[soviet prince]

The game would be too weird, plus I can't picture Goku teaming up with Frieza. Heroes should stay with Heroes/Rogues and Villains should stay with Villians so that it isn't hard to tell whose good and whose bad.

If you wathced the show it should not be to hard:D

they need to be mixable, it will be to limiting to do a good verus evil thing.

[Evil Jim]

The game would be too weird, plus I can't picture Goku teaming up with Frieza. Heroes should stay with Heroes/Rogues and Villains should stay with Villians so that it isn't hard to tell whose good and whose bad.

I have a feeling that you will be able to have heroes and villians in the same deck. Just like you can in Naruto. But I think there will be a "bonus" to only having one or the other in the deck, like a mono deck.

[Card Slinger J]

The only reason why Heroes+Villians doesn't matter in Naruto is cause it's different compared to DBZ where they're are good guys and actually evil guys.

[soviet prince]

The only reason why Heroes+Villians doesn't matter in Naruto is cause it's different compared to DBZ where they're are good guys and actually evil guys.

Naruto and orochimaru say hi:rolleyes:

[Goku]

sorry if the image quality stinks. I won't be able to scan the magazine till at least saturday night. Also the border is supposed to be white, don't know if you can tell from the pictures.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/raiden225005/DSC00610.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/raiden225005/DSC00607.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/raiden225005/DSC00606.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/raiden225005/DSC00603.jpg

[Goku]

And since I could only put 4 pics at a time here is the last one...

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/raiden225005/DSC00601.jpg

They do appear to look alot like naruto cards with the race being related to chakra. Hope you all enjoy.

[CaMeRoN]

That's wicked. Thanks for posting these Goku! These look so much nicer than the Naruto cards :o or Maybe i'm bias :(

[Goku]

I totally agree and they actually look alot sharper/nicer in person. The camera didn't do them justice. I love cards with huge artwork so thats a plus and the colors of the characters and background really stand out well against the white border. The front and back of these cards are WIN in my book.

[Kintaro]

Wow...you're not even fun to insult anymore because you can't see when someone is obviously insulting and mocking you. =/

Good day sir.

Nope, just decided to take the wind out of your sails, since your so-called "jokes", being as rediculously stupid as they are, are nowhere NEAR what I've heard from others who know me far far better than you.

Yeesh. :rolleyes:

[Kintaro]

Double post for clarity....

Awsome GOKU!!Thanks for the pics!!

That's a DBZ guy on a Naruto card :D

[DNaraku]

Absolutely loving how the cards look. I was thinking they would be like Naruto with those terrible backgrounds.

Oh, and just throw my take on what Toughness is in. I firmly believe that if you have Toughness 2 like Piccolo and an original power of 5, it's basically saying that you would have to beat him as an 8 (7 for a tie) instead of a 6 to deal him an injury. The only question I have is, is Toughness a valid ability?

[Zero]

Absolutely loving how the cards look. I was thinking they would be like Naruto with those terrible backgrounds.

Oh, and just throw my take on what Toughness is in. I firmly believe that if you have Toughness 2 like Piccolo and an original power of 5, it's basically saying that you would have to beat him as an 8 (7 for a tie) instead of a 6 to deal him an injury. The only question I have is, is Toughness a valid ability?

thats assuming toughness is like .hack//enemy

Hopefully it is.

so the factions are: Earth, Nemkian, Alien, Sayin, Villan? gokus and Piccolos arent clear enough to make out, but they look like nemakian and super from here. Basicaly its naruto, but better card template (scouter > kunai) better anime, and more game mechanics (insert toughness). I'm loving it already :)

[soviet prince]

The card art is amazing expecially the Frieza, what worrys me though is it looks like the game is still going to use the element sceme that naruto uses.

[Chronomaster]

Then I saw her face,
Now I'm a believer.

Not a trace,
or doubt in my mind...

[soviet prince]

Then I saw her face,
Now I'm a believer.

Not a trace,
or doubt in my mind...

lol QFT:D

10 character filler

[Zero]

The card art is amazing expecially the Frieza, what worrys me though is it looks like the game is still going to use the element sceme that naruto uses.

....Thats a good thing. What we dont want is a ton of over powered low drops, or ridiculously unbalanced characters in 1 faction :\

[Shinfitz]

Master Roshi Style is a trait?

That's pretty awesome. I wonder what kind of attacks will require that trait to be used. Maybe Kamahamaha.

What makes no sense to me is why Cell only has Android, when he was able to use every technique in the series. He should have a trait called 'All' which means he has every trait.

[CaMeRoN]

Master Roshi Style is a trait?

That's pretty awesome. I wonder what kind of attacks will require that trait to be used. Maybe Kamahamaha.

What makes no sense to me is why Cell only has Android, when he was able to use every technique in the series. He should have a trait called 'All' which means he has every trait.

He was programmed to use every technique in the series. In my opinion, he should definately take on the characteristic, "Android".

I imagine Master Roshi style will be used for a lot of the DragonBall characters. As soon as Goku gets trained from Kai he will undoubtedly drop that characteristic and pick up another.

[Android17]

This guy is soo stoked for this game!

[CaMeRoN]

I can imagine this card being possable

cell Perfect

[valid] dicard x amount of ki to play any tech. x= the tech. cost

You might want to add in the text "play any technique in you our your opponents discard pile"

[soviet prince]

Master Roshi Style is a trait?

That's pretty awesome. I wonder what kind of attacks will require that trait to be used. Maybe Kamahamaha.

What makes no sense to me is why Cell only has Android, when he was able to use every technique in the series. He should have a trait called 'All' which means he has every trait.

I can imagine this card being possable

cell Perfect

[valid] dicard x amount of ki to play any tech. x= the tech. cost

[Shinfitz]

He was programmed to use every technique in the series. In my opinion, he should definately take on the characteristic, "Android".

I imagine Master Roshi style will be used for a lot of the DragonBall characters. As soon as Goku gets trained from Kai he will undoubtedly drop that characteristic and pick up another.

Cell had the cells of sayains, humans, Freeza, and the nameks, he was also able to use Kamahamaha as well as Solar Flare (which isn't saying much because, pretty much everybody can use these). So it makes sense that he should have all traits, not just Android.

He could regenerate, and that's a trait on the Piccolo.

He could use Kamahamaha, and I'm sure that will be a Master Roshi Style card.

He should at least have a few more than just Android, in my opinion.

And I think it would be cool if Goku had King Kai Style as well as Master Roshi Style, so he could use all of those techniques.

[CaMeRoN]

I see what you mean. However, I see Cell as an android programmed and engineered with those attacks. He is only able to use them because he was created to use them. With that respect I believe he falls into the class of Android and nothing else.

[Bunnyslayer]

I don't know if anyone else noticed this but why the hell does Goku have the human trait?

[Evil Jim]

I don't know if anyone else noticed this but why the hell does Goku have the human trait?

I noticed that, too. I guess, since he lived on Earth for so long.

[Bunnyslayer]

I noticed that, too. I guess, since he lived on Earth for so long.

That still doesn't make sense. Animals Live on earth too but they aren't considered Human >_>
Human and Saiyan are 2 different species.

[Goldenwill]

Keep in mind that this may not be just like naruto. In naruto each character stays a specific element. Its very possible that in this game they could make a Gohan that is both for Human/earth decks and different one that is for namek decks. That is what i would like to see anyway.

[Evil Jim]

That still doesn't make sense. Animals Live on earth too but they aren't considered Human >_>
Human and Saiyan are 2 different species.

I know, but its probably just typo, those happen lot in Bandai games, when they are in a SJ.

[CaMeRoN]

Keep in mind that this may not be just like naruto. In naruto each character stays a specific element. Its very possible that in this game they could make a Gohan that is both for Human/earth decks and different one that is for namek decks. That is what i would like to see anyway.

I'd like to see that too. Why should on character be subject to only one race? Having multiple characters in different elements would be best as it would allow all the races to expand evenly.

That still doesn't make sense. Animals Live on earth too but they aren't considered Human >_>
Human and Saiyan are 2 different species.
Hey Slayer ^^

It's possible that the Goku in the card is a Goku from before the characters discovered he was a Saiyan. That would explain why he has a human trait.

[SAI]

Me to!!

Hey SAI!! YAY for me, I'm spreading the disease!!

Yay indeed, I was pretty skeptical at first but this game is starting to look like some fun and if your able to play in tandem with Naruto I don't think you could really go wrong.

I'll definitely be looking into this game.

[Goldenwill]

Yes I was skeptical as well.. But the more i see the more i like... If they use what they learned from the Naruto CCG and don;t make the same mistakes such as over powered cards / elements. Then this Game will be AMAZING!!!

[Goku]

I agree, as long as they keep it balanced this game will be great.

[soviet prince]

July18 seems to be getting ****her and ****her away :(

[soviet prince]

That makes no sense.

So, you're saying Cell as the ability to use many of the Z Warrior's attacks and techniques, but it shouldn't be represented in this game because you see him an android?

The anime states many times that he has the cells of most of the characters, and he found that he could use some techniques on the spot just by watching others do it. (i.e. Piccolo.)

You yourself said he can use all of these attacks, for whatever reason. And because he is able to, I think it should be represented by allowing him to do so in the card game as well.

Cell having just Android is not a good representation of the character.
I am thinking that a card effect on a cell card in the future will have a effect thats lets him have those traits. this will not be the last cell card

[Shinfitz]

I see what you mean. However, I see Cell as an android programmed and engineered with those attacks. He is only able to use them because he was created to use them. With that respect I believe he falls into the class of Android and nothing else.

That makes no sense.

So, you're saying Cell as the ability to use many of the Z Warrior's attacks and techniques, but it shouldn't be represented in this game because you see him an android?

The anime states many times that he has the cells of most of the characters, and he found that he could use some techniques on the spot just by watching others do it. (i.e. Piccolo.)

You yourself said he can use all of these attacks, for whatever reason. And because he is able to, I think it should be represented by allowing him to do so in the card game as well.

Cell having just Android is not a good representation of the character.

[Evil Jim]

Well, the cell card that we have seen is the 1st stage. I think the later stages will have abilities that let him use others cards.

[CaMeRoN]

That makes no sense.

So, you're saying Cell as the ability to use many of the Z Warrior's attacks and techniques, but it shouldn't be represented in this game because you see him an android?

The anime states many times that he has the cells of most of the characters, and he found that he could use some techniques on the spot just by watching others do it. (i.e. Piccolo.)

You yourself said he can use all of these attacks, for whatever reason. And because he is able to, I think it should be represented by allowing him to do so in the card game as well.

Cell having just Android is not a good representation of the character.

I understand your reasoning and will conquer that your arguments are quite sound. I am going to re-phrase my argument in an attempt for it to make sense to you. I would like you to understand my argument as well.

When Dr. Gero created his Android Cell using the Cells of many fighters throughout the universe. Dr. Gero programmed Cell with Artificial Intelligence where he would be able to manipulate the techniques he learned about through text and visual experiences. Due to the cells of the many fighters he was created with, he is able to use techniques used by those fighters because of how he was programmed. Cell cannot be thought of as 'living' due to the fact that every aspect of him was programmed by Dr. Gero. He has no emotions and his thought process is Artificial. That in itself is the definition of an Android. I believe that is the reason why Cell must be kept in the Android class and cannot substitute into another.

[soviet prince]

I understand your reasoning and will conquer that your arguments are quite sound. I am going to re-phrase my argument in an attempt for it to make sense to you. I would like you to understand my argument as well.

When Dr. Gero created his Android Cell using the Cells of many fighters throughout the universe. Dr. Gero programmed Cell with Artificial Intelligence where he would be able to manipulate the techniques he learned about through text and visual experiences. Due to the cells of the many fighters he was created with, he is able to use techniques used by those fighters because of how he was programmed. Cell cannot be thought of as 'living' due to the fact that every aspect of him was programmed by Dr. Gero. He has no emotions and his thought process is Artificial. That in itself is the definition of an Android. I believe that is the reason why Cell must be kept in the Android class and cannot substitute into another.
cell had defintly had emotion, kid buu was the only character without emotion.

[Goldenwill]

Honestly, I totally cna see both sides of the arguement. However i feel that if a decision has to be made then the most logical one is Cell is an Android. If you have to fit him into one tiny box like that, it is definately Android.

[CaMeRoN]

cell had defintly had emotion, kid buu was the only character without emotion.

His emotions were artificial. You can program something to be angry but they can't actually feel anger.

[Shinfitz]

I understand your reasoning and will conquer that your arguments are quite sound. I am going to re-phrase my argument in an attempt for it to make sense to you. I would like you to understand my argument as well.

When Dr. Gero created his Android Cell using the Cells of many fighters throughout the universe. Dr. Gero programmed Cell with Artificial Intelligence where he would be able to manipulate the techniques he learned about through text and visual experiences. Due to the cells of the many fighters he was created with, he is able to use techniques used by those fighters because of how he was programmed. Cell cannot be thought of as 'living' due to the fact that every aspect of him was programmed by Dr. Gero. He has no emotions and his thought process is Artificial. That in itself is the definition of an Android. I believe that is the reason why Cell must be kept in the Android class and cannot substitute into another.

Ok, first of all, I'd like to say that I'm not responding to you in anger, and I don't mean to sound harsh in any of my posts if they seem that way.

To respond, what difference does any of that make?

Cell is an android. So what? I never said he shouldn't have 'Android'.

All I'm saying is, he should be able to do the techniques he could in the show. I'm pretty sure giving him just 'Android' won't allow him to do so.

P.S.
You're saying Cell wasn't living?

His name is Cell. He acts like a cell, wanting to become complete and even going though Meiosis and/or Mitosis when he created the Cell Jr's. I'm pretty sure he is alive.

He bleeds, gets angry, prideful, afraid, as well as other emotions. Why wouldn't you classify him as being alive?

And as far as your Dr. Gero reasoning, it's complete bull.

Dr. Gero created the 'androids' from living things, making them part living part machine. They are actually closer to cyborgs than anything else.

The androids as well as Cell never acted in accordance to Dr. Gero's programming.

Cell was made from flesh, the only real android in Dragon Ball Z was Android 16. The term 'android' in DBZ is merely one used to portray to the viewer that they were artificial.

[Kintaro]

Man, CAMERON is so polite!! We should all take a hint from him!!

Here's to you, Cameron!! If only I could comport myself HALF as well as you do on the forums here!!

[CaMeRoN]

Man, CAMERON is so polite!! We should all take a hint from him!!

Here's to you, Cameron!! If only I could comport myself HALF as well as you do on the forums here!!

Thanks man. It's nice to hear that from someone every now and then. Kudos to you too ;)

[Goldenwill]

Yeah.. I want to second that we appear to have a pretty solid team going here on these boards. once the game actually releases ppl will be looking to guys like Cameron, Kintaro and the other top posters for advice and such.. Keep up the good work..

[Bunnyslayer]

Yup Cam is a cool guy he comes from a cool website:)(look at his hompage XD)

[Kintaro]

Yup Cam is a cool guy he comes from a cool website:)(look at his hompage XD)

WHAT? Wow, right under my radar.....

(runs off to see...)

PS Cam, you need to turn on yer PMs, pal.....but otherwise, yeah, it's ok!!

[CaMeRoN]

WHAT? Wow, right under my radar.....

(runs off to see...)

PS Cam, you need to turn on yer PMs, pal.....but otherwise, yeah, it's ok!!

I turned them on, sorry about that. :P

[Wolf]

And since I could only put 4 pics at a time here is the last one...

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/raiden225005/DSC00601.jpg

They do appear to look alot like naruto cards with the race being related to chakra. Hope you all enjoy.

these are awesome, to peoples: Im Pain11 on naruto,

[soviet prince]

Ok, first of all, I'd like to say that I'm not responding to you in anger, and I don't mean to sound harsh in any of my posts if they seem that way.

To respond, what difference does any of that make?

Cell is an android. So what? I never said he shouldn't have 'Android'.

All I'm saying is, he should be able to do the techniques he could in the show. I'm pretty sure giving him just 'Android' won't allow him to do so.

P.S.
You're saying Cell wasn't living?

His name is Cell. He acts like a cell, wanting to become complete and even going though Meiosis and/or Mitosis when he created the Cell Jr's. I'm pretty sure he is alive.

He bleeds, gets angry, prideful, afraid, as well as other emotions. Why wouldn't you classify him as being alive?

And as far as your Dr. Gero reasoning, it's complete bull.

Dr. Gero created the 'androids' from living things, making them part living part machine. They are actually closer to cyborgs than anything else.

The androids as well as Cell never acted in accordance to Dr. Gero's programming.

Cell was made from flesh, the only real android in Dragon Ball Z was Android 16. The term 'android' in DBZ is merely one used to portray to the viewer that they were artificial.


cell is like a clone of the strongest warriors so your right he is alive.

also did anyone notice frieza is spelled wrong

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/raiden225005/DSC00603.jpg

[Wolf]

I will be so mad if cell can't use the things he uses

[soviet prince]

I will be so mad if cell can't use the things he uses

remember there will be more verions of cell to come

[Wolf]

remember there will be more verions of cell to come

I know, I can only keep hoping

[Super_Saiya-jin_Vegeta]

So far, from the two pictures posted and the card effects listed, I'm quite interested to see how well this game forms itself. That, and I must see a Saiyan Armor Vegeta... and he better be good, dangit! XD

[SSJ3GokuSuperFan]

So far, from the two pictures posted and the card effects listed, I'm quite interested to see how well this game forms itself. That, and I must see a Saiyan Armor Vegeta... and he better be good, dangit! XD

As He said I hope we get some very good pics.

[Super_Saiya-jin_Vegeta]

Well, the pics that have been posted are better artwork than I've seen on some of the cards that were for that game over in Japan and Europe. Definitely looking forward to seeing what else we get as far as cards go... but, like I mentioned before, I'm really looking forward to some Vegeta cards.

Heck. I honestly want to see all the Saiyan Warriors (Nappa, Raditz, Turles, etc) for this game. That, and a good Cooler XD

[SSJ3GokuSuperFan]

Well, the pics that have been posted are better artwork than I've seen on some of the cards that were for that game over in Japan and Europe. Definitely looking forward to seeing what else we get as far as cards go... but, like I mentioned before, I'm really looking forward to some Vegeta cards.

Heck. I honestly want to see all the Saiyan Warriors (Nappa, Raditz, Turles, etc) for this game. That, and a good Cooler XD

Agreed and I hope we get some good android cards(16,18,19,etc.)

[Super_Saiya-jin_Vegeta]

Yeah, you would be that guy who would want to see all the Androids, wouldn't you? XP Haha

[SSJ3GokuSuperFan]

HaHa.........I guess i would.

[soviet prince]

If the cards we already know about are something to go on then all cards will have great art.

[Super_Saiya-jin_Vegeta]

I'm sure they will have great art. Though, the waiting is going to be the part that kills me XP

[Super_Saiya-jin_Vegeta]

hopefully we get previews soon, that will keep me occupied.

Though, with the game releasing in July, I don't know when they'll get around to giving us previews from the game x_x

[soviet prince]

I'm sure they will have great art. Though, the waiting is going to be the part that kills me XP

hopefully we get previews soon, that will keep me occupied.

[Wolf]

I'm sure they will have great art. Though, the waiting is going to be the part that kills me XP

lol yeah, I want to see a good Gohan SSJ2, Goku SSJ, Cooler Final form, and goten

[Super_Saiya-jin_Vegeta]

Cooler should have a good first form card... but his final form and meta form should be even better, given he was a bit stronger in those forms.

[soviet prince]

lol yeah, I want to see a good Gohan SSJ2, Goku SSJ, Cooler Final form, and goten

coolers first form will be nice to.

[Wolf]

coolers first form will be nice to.

thats true I guess

[talyhawk]

I love the way the cards look, the pics from the Shonen Jump really did the cards justice. My only gripe right now, until bandai posts the rulebook to clarify, is that the game looks way too much like Naruto in a very basic sense. It's safe to assume that there will be teams given the support and attack values. I'm wondering though if it's going to be like Naurto in that you have to "charge" cards to pay for the different events and such considering the template of the cards that we've been shown. Again this is all speculation and pure opinion. Yes I'm a former DBZ player and a Naruto player, not that it probably matters.

[Wolf]

I love the way the cards look, the pics from the Shonen Jump really did the cards justice. My only gripe right now, until bandai posts the rulebook to clarify, is that the game looks way too much like Naruto in a very basic sense. It's safe to assume that there will be teams given the support and attack values. I'm wondering though if it's going to be like Naurto in that you have to "charge" cards to pay for the different events and such considering the template of the cards that we've been shown. Again this is all speculation and pure opinion. Yes I'm a former DBZ player and a Naruto player, not that it probably matters.

Naruto's playstyle is great, its only problem is it didn't have enough characters to support its playstyle, DBZ has a never ending quarry of characters to choose from

[CaMeRoN]

I love the way the cards look, the pics from the Shonen Jump really did the cards justice. My only gripe right now, until bandai posts the rulebook to clarify, is that the game looks way too much like Naruto in a very basic sense. It's safe to assume that there will be teams given the support and attack values. I'm wondering though if it's going to be like Naurto in that you have to "charge" cards to pay for the different events and such considering the template of the cards that we've been shown. Again this is all speculation and pure opinion. Yes I'm a former DBZ player and a Naruto player, not that it probably matters.

As you said, we really don't know and it is all speculation. I created a topic a couple days ago called "Chaining (Speculation)", where the community has been discussing this subject. I reccomend you take your ideas regarding charging and the jutsu system to that topic, as you will get a larger response.

Naruto's playstyle is great, its only problem is it didn't have enough characters to support its playstyle, DBZ has a never ending quarry of characters to choose from
Quite right, man! Naruto CCG's game mechanics are very good. Their problem definately lies in character development and their pool of different characters. DragonBall CCG has both of those things; Character development is seen quite clearly through transformation and DragonBall CCG sports a vast pool of characters to pull from.

[soviet prince]

As you said, we really don't know and it is all speculation. I created a topic a couple days ago called "Chaining (Speculation)", where the community has been discussing this subject. I reccomend you take your ideas regarding charging and the jutsu system to that topic, as you will get a larger response.


Quite right, man! Naruto CCG's game mechanics are very good. Their problem definately lies in character development and their pool of different characters. DragonBall CCG has both of those things; Character development is seen quite clearly through transformation and DragonBall CCG sports a vast pool of characters to pull from.

it also is not limited by a story either and that will help.

[Wolf]

it also is not limited by a story either and that will help.

another good point, in naruto you have to wait for the card to make a previously released card useful, in this they can release both cards at once

(See Naruto MAST coming out before Rasengan for details)

[Berlu]

So what month Shonen Jump came with those pictures?

[soviet prince]

So what month Shonen Jump came with those pictures?

it's the may edition

[WANDERINGJD]

the interesting thing i read in the article is that we will get artwork not seen in the us. does this mean we'll get to see ssj5? Now i know that most people will question that but it's an article i read (not sure about it's accuracy) but apparently the guy (it's like 2 am can't remember his name) did a drawing for an interview of goku ssj5 and honestly i'd love to see it as a card.

[Super_Saiya-jin_Vegeta]

the interesting thing i read in the article is that we will get artwork not seen in the us. does this mean we'll get to see ssj5? Now i know that most people will question that but it's an article i read (not sure about it's accuracy) but apparently the guy (it's like 2 am can't remember his name) did a drawing for an interview of goku ssj5 and honestly i'd love to see it as a card.

Since it never existed in the actual series itself, I seriously doubt that we will see Super Saiya-jin 5 Goku. Also, I don't believe anyone would appreciate having to deal with a character that would be ridiculously overpowered compared to Super Saiya-jin 4 Goku and Super Saiya-jin 4 Vegeta (this including the fusion of Gogeta as well)

I think what it means, by original artwork, is that we'll be seeing stuff from artbooks and the like. That's pretty much what the artwork never before seen is alluding to, honestly.

[Wolf]

the interesting thing i read in the article is that we will get artwork not seen in the us. does this mean we'll get to see ssj5? Now i know that most people will question that but it's an article i read (not sure about it's accuracy) but apparently the guy (it's like 2 am can't remember his name) did a drawing for an interview of goku ssj5 and honestly i'd love to see it as a card.

that would be a great move on bandai's part, all the former fans (once they hear of ssj5) would rush back into the card game just to see/use it for awhile

[Shinfitz]

the interesting thing i read in the article is that we will get artwork not seen in the us. does this mean we'll get to see ssj5? Now i know that most people will question that but it's an article i read (not sure about it's accuracy) but apparently the guy (it's like 2 am can't remember his name) did a drawing for an interview of goku ssj5 and honestly i'd love to see it as a card.

I seriously doubt this.

Super Sayian Five was drawn by fans of the Dragon Ball series who wanted to create another continuation called Dragon Ball AF, similar to Dragon Ball GT.

Akira Toriyama had nothing to do with SSJ5, so I doubt the company that has rights to Dragon Ball would allow Bandai to use it.

Plus, it's just silly. When should the powering up end, ya know?

[WANDERINGJD]

yeah it was because of that drawing that so many people thought another series was coming out after gt, obviously to everyone's regret it never panned out. but like i said i don't know about the articles accuracy. it was however on a site dedicated to his life an entire biography from birth to then i think i'll try to find it again though i doubt it exists anymore it's been at least what 5 years now maybe more.

[Wolf]

yeah it was because of that drawing that so many people thought another series was coming out after gt, obviously to everyone's regret it never panned out. but like i said i don't know about the articles accuracy. it was however on a site dedicated to his life an entire biography from birth to then i think i'll try to find it again though i doubt it exists anymore it's been at least what 5 years now maybe more.

wtf five years

[talyhawk]

the interesting thing i read in the article is that we will get artwork not seen in the us. does this mean we'll get to see ssj5? Now i know that most people will question that but it's an article i read (not sure about it's accuracy) but apparently the guy (it's like 2 am can't remember his name) did a drawing for an interview of goku ssj5 and honestly i'd love to see it as a card.
SS5 will never make it to a card unless it is a fan made card game which is just kept to the local community. SS5 and a few other levels that were created for the fan made Dragon Ball AF were never touched by Akira Toriyama or Toei animation (people who did GT). Even with GT all Akira Toriyama did was provide character designs, he didn't have anything to do with the storyline which is pretty obvious considering the numerous plot holes in that series.

As for the cards that they have shown in the May Shonen Jump, they look nice but like I've said before too much like Naruto cards. I have to admit though the artwork is quite a bit better than what we've seen in the past, which was mainly just screen shots.

[Wolf]

SS5 will never make it to a card unless it is a fan made card game which is just kept to the local community. SS5 and a few other levels that were created for the fan made Dragon Ball AF were never touched by Akira Toriyama or Toei animation (people who did GT). Even with GT all Akira Toriyama did was provide character designs, he didn't have anything to do with the storyline which is pretty obvious considering the numerous plot holes in that series.

As for the cards that they have shown in the May Shonen Jump, they look nice but like I've said before too much like Naruto cards. I have to admit though the artwork is quite a bit better than what we've seen in the past, which was mainly just screen shots.

No Im pretty sure he worked on the plot

[talyhawk]

Akira Toriyama had only minor involvement in the show's early stages, setting forth the initial premise of the series, as well as creating designs for most of the villains and main characters.

Anyway this is getting way off the original topic of the cards that were shown in the Shonen Jump for May. What I'm wanting to know is what do you guys think will happen with the team aspect of the game, especially since the cards they've shown have given us a pretty good idea that there will be teams since characters have a attack/support value plus the healthy/injured values.

[Wolf]

Akira Toriyama had only minor involvement in the show's early stages, setting forth the initial premise of the series, as well as creating designs for most of the villains and main characters.

Anyway this is getting way off the original topic of the cards that were shown in the Shonen Jump for May. What I'm wanting to know is what do you guys think will happen with the team aspect of the game, especially since the cards they've shown have given us a pretty good idea that there will be teams since characters have a attack/support value plus the healthy/injured values.

it will probably be simlar to the naruto team system

[soviet prince]

it will be close to the naruto system but I hope they throw a curve ball and do something diffrent

[Evil Jim]

it will be cose to the naruto system but I hope they throw a curve ball and do something diffrent

I think the DragonBalls and Wish cards take care of that.

[soviet prince]

I think the DragonBalls and Wish cards take care of that.

yeah but I still like to see more that seperates the 2

[Evil Jim]

yeah but I still like to see more that seperates the 2

Hmm, more, well, from the Piccolo card, we see the new key word "Toughness". What could it do? We will have to wait. Could there be more key words? Maybe.

So see, just from 5 cards, we know 2 changes. And the set has 110 cards, so I believe we will be in from some more changes.

[GotenOnNimbus]

I might pick up a starter deck, but I'm not going to hold my breath for anything great for this game. I'm kinda disappointed that the card templates are pretty much the same as Naruto, too. I would have hoped that taking on another big license would create a new card game, not one that looks like their previous success.

[soviet prince]

I might pick up a starter deck, but I'm not going to hold my breath for anything great for this game. I'm kinda disappointed that the card templates are pretty much the same as Naruto, too. I would have hoped that taking on another big license would create a new card game, not one that looks like their previous success.

it not as bad once you get used to the idea

[Goku]

[QUOTE=Evil Jim;1297]Hmm, more, well, from the Piccolo card, we see the new key word "Toughness". What could it do? We will have to wait. Could there be more key words? Maybe. QUOTE]

Maybe the toughness is going to be like in the new bleach set with the term defensive being toughness instead. You would get a power boost of 2 when you defend or something like that. I could see DBZ having keywords for power boost instead of having it all written out for you like in naruto.

[SSJ4Gogeta]

i wonder what it means when it says [Auto] or [Mission], before a card effect. Why do some of the cards have the same effect names, like Krillin and Frieza saying PLUNDER. and why do some not have effect names, like Cell.

[soviet prince]

[QUOTE=Evil Jim;1297]Hmm, more, well, from the Piccolo card, we see the new key word "Toughness". What could it do? We will have to wait. Could there be more key words? Maybe. QUOTE]

Maybe the toughness is going to be like in the new bleach set with the term defensive being toughness instead. You would get a power boost of 2 when you defend or something like that. I could see DBZ having keywords for power boost instead of having it all written out for you like in naruto.

yeah it help save space on the card as well

[soviet prince]

i wonder what it means when it says [Auto] or [Mission], before a card effect. Why do some of the cards have the same effect names, like Krillin and Frieza saying PLUNDER. and why do some not have effect names, like Cell.

my geuss auto means you can use the effect on your first turn.

[SSJ4Gogeta]

my geuss auto means you can use the effect on your first turn.

thay would make sense.

[Wolf]

my geuss auto means you can use the effect on your first turn.

I would think it means the effect comes in to play right when the warrior is played seeing as how we didn't see any T0 or 1 and most of them had auto..... but you probably meant that right?

[Wolf]

thats what I was thinking it, it has to have something to do when you play it or the first turn you play it. It may be kind of like hast from Magic the Gathering.

yes like goku gets a coin the moment he is put in play

[soviet prince]

I would think it means the effect comes in to play right when the warrior is played seeing as how we didn't see any T0 or 1 and most of them had auto..... but you probably meant that right?

thats what I was thinking it, it has to have something to do when you play it or the first turn you play it. It may be kind of like hast from Magic the Gathering.

[SS2 Gohan]

sorry if the image quality stinks. I won't be able to scan the magazine till at least saturday night. Also the border is supposed to be white, don't know if you can tell from the pictures.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/raiden225005/DSC00610.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/raiden225005/DSC00607.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/raiden225005/DSC00606.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/raiden225005/DSC00603.jpg
Wow those r cool.

[Goku]

thats what I was thinking it, it has to have something to do when you play it or the first turn you play it. It may be kind of like hast from Magic the Gathering.

So does this mean that Plunder has its own effect seperate from the auto effect. I say this because cell and piccolo don't have names for their effects so maybe Plunder is a seperate effect just like toughness.

[WANDERINGJD]

ooooh now that you say that a thought hit me plunder could mean you can steal one of your opponents dragon balls when you attack or something similar.

[soviet prince]

So does this mean that Plunder has its own effect seperate from the auto effect. I say this because cell and piccolo don't have names for their effects so maybe Plunder is a seperate effect just like toughness.

you may be on to something there

[Super_Saiya-jin_Vegeta]

I really want to get a foil of the Cell. It's definitely a nice picture of him.. and the effect isn't to bad either. But, a turn 3(?) with a hand cost of 1? AM I reading that one right?

[DNaraku]

A turn 3 that's a possible 8/3 - 4/0, so yes I do believe you read it right.

[soviet prince]

A turn 3 that's a possible 8/3 - 4/0, so yes I do believe you read it right.

we don't know the turn count for the androids yet, so it's hard to figure out how effective cell will be.

[Super_Saiya-jin_Vegeta]

A turn 3 that's a possible 8/3 - 4/0, so yes I do believe you read it right.

Given that power, they're probably going to make it limited to either discarding Android 18 or Android 17 the turn he's played. But, if it does mean you can discard both at any given time during the game, then he had best be a super rare.

[DNaraku]

we don't know the turn count for the androids yet, so it's hard to figure out how effective cell will be.

It's called common sense.

You don't give a card an effect that it can't possibly use when played.

[Super_Saiya-jin_Vegeta]

we don't know the turn count for the androids yet, so it's hard to figure out how effective cell will be.

If you look at Cell's effect, which I just re-read, you'll see the Mission part in (). So, I figure that you have to use his ability during your mission phase.

[Zero]

Hmm, more, well, from the Piccolo card, we see the new key word "Toughness". What could it do? We will have to wait. Could there be more key words? Maybe.

Toughness will hopefully be Like it was in .Hack//enemy.

so If Piccolo is a 5, and cell is a 6, cell attacks, piccolo blocks, cell wins, but since Cell only won by 1 power, and piccolo has 2 toughness, he takes no damage. On the folowing turn, you discard an 18 to give cell another +2/+0, and attack, I block with piccolo, sine you are now 3 above me, and I only have 2 toughness, my toughness doesnt help me, and piccolo is damaged.

IMO if thats how toughness is, it will realy help the game.

[Evil Jim]

Toughness will hopefully be Like it was in .Hack//enemy.

so If Piccolo is a 5, and cell is a 6, cell attacks, piccolo blocks, cell wins, but since Cell only won by 1 power, and piccolo has 2 toughness, he takes no damage. On the folowing turn, you discard an 18 to give cell another +2/+0, and attack, I block with piccolo, sine you are now 3 above me, and I only have 2 toughness, my toughness doesnt help me, and piccolo is damaged.

IMO if thats how toughness is, it will realy help the game.

I know, I just just saying that. Because I was showing him how there is new stuff in the game. Its not just .hack that toughness is from, but also Full Metal Alchemist. It uses the exact same name and effect. So, if 2 games out there use the same name and effect, I think DB will, too.

[Chronomaster]

I think 'Toughness 2' is the ability name. If anyone sees it, you have to discard 2 cards to use his effect. :'

Could be wrong though. The 'Cell lacking an effect name' thing could be because he has no keyworded abilities or somesuch, but Krillin and Frieza appear to have the same effect, so...

[Evil Jim]

I think 'Toughness 2' is the ability name. If anyone sees it, you have to discard 2 cards to use his effect. :'

Could be wrong though. The 'Cell lacking an effect name' thing could be because he has no keyworded abilities or somesuch, but Krillin and Frieza appear to have the same effect, so...

LMAO, I think you are right. I guess all of us from .hack and FMA, were so used to see that as a effect, we jumped back to it. But after looking back at that cards it seem that is the case. I think that most characters will have the same effect, like in Magic. Since multiple characters have the same effect they gave them the same name. Then Cell is the only one with that one, so they did not give it a name.

[Zero]

I think 'Toughness 2' is the ability name. If anyone sees it, you have to discard 2 cards to use his effect. :'

Could be wrong though. The 'Cell lacking an effect name' thing could be because he has no keyworded abilities or somesuch, but Krillin and Frieza appear to have the same effect, so...

Yeah, that confuses me :(

also, How does super recovery correlate(sp?) to getting a dragon ball?

I dont know if they are effect names or random abilities.

[Evil Jim]

Well, I was looking at the cards. And I noticed that Freiza, Krillin, and Piccolo have a little dot after (auto) or Vaild. It could be nothing, but after what Zero said about Goku and "Super Recovery", maybe the dot means that it goes along with the effect name. So, Super Recovery could be another ability or it could be Super Recovery "of a DragonBall".

[soviet prince]

It's called common sense.

You don't give a card an effect that it can't possibly use when played.

there has been some cards that when played, you can't use the effect right away. You are more lieky right but I am expoloring ever possabilty.

[FFXITBest]

Howdy everyone.

Just gonna make a few observations / input on a few things that have already been discussed.

As far as the text above the abilities go... I'd be willing to bet that they're simply ability names that are a general ability used on more than one card as I believe someone else had already stated. Bandai was kind and gave us two cards with the same ability "Plunder" which states that "Your opponent's Warriors with 2 or less Entrance cost cannot Block this Warrior's Team".

Also, regarding character abilities... It appears that the Valid bit makes its return from Naruto. Valid means that the character's effect is active whether it is in Healthy or Injured status. They've also added the "Auto" text as well though. I'm going to speculate that this means that it is a continuous effect. I would also bet that a character could have both an "Auto" and "Valid" ability meaning that it would be a continuous effect whether it was Healthy or Injured. As far as the "Mission" goes. Yeah, I'd agree with a previous poster and say that would be an activated ability that would have to be used in the Mission phase when you're deploying characters and the like. In regards to the dot following a couple abilities... I have no clue what that means atm.

That last sentence of the first observation above leads me to my next conclusion. Yes, there will be teams like the Naruto CCG. You can see this from the Plunder ability as well as from the Combat/Support values on the cards.

The Entrance Cost / Hand Cost / Healthy and Injured atk/sup Values / Traits / Elements also appear to make a return from the Naruto CCG

Well... I think that's everything.. If I think of other things I'll post them later.

And hey there Taly and GON... Thanks for tellin me about the new CCG and site... *Stares.* No Brawl for you two tonight!! >.>

[soviet prince]

Howdy everyone.

Just gonna make a few observations / input on a few things that have already been discussed.

As far as the text above the abilities go... I'd be willing to bet that they're simply ability names that are a general ability used on more than one card as I believe someone else had already stated. Bandai was kind and gave us two cards with the same ability "Plunder" which states that "Your opponent's Warriors with 2 or less Entrance cost cannot Block this Warrior's Team".

Also, regarding character abilities... It appears that the Valid bit makes its return from Naruto. Valid means that the character's effect is active whether it is in Healthy or Injured status. They've also added the "Auto" text as well though. I'm going to speculate that this means that it is a continuous effect. I would also bet that a character could have both an "Auto" and "Valid" ability meaning that it would be a continuous effect whether it was Healthy or Injured. As far as the "Mission" goes. Yeah, I'd agree with a previous poster and say that would be an activated ability that would have to be used in the Mission phase when you're deploying characters and the like. In regards to the dot following a couple abilities... I have no clue what that means atm.

That last sentence of the first observation above leads me to my next conclusion. Yes, there will be teams like the Naruto CCG. You can see this from the Plunder ability as well as from the Combat/Support values on the cards.

The Entrance Cost / Hand Cost / Healthy and Injured atk/sup Values / Traits / Elements also appear to make a return from the Naruto CCG

Well... I think that's everything.. If I think of other things I'll post them later.

And hey there Taly and GON... Thanks for tellin me about the new CCG and site... *Stares.* No Brawl for you two tonight!! >.>

I think auto might mean used as soon as you play it, but who know july can't come quick enough.

[Bazooha!!]

This game looks like it is going to be so much fun and I can't wait till the game comes out so my friends and I play it.

[Card Slinger J]

Anyone got any idea on the Goku card SJ previewed where it said Goku has the Human characteristic instead of just Saiyan? Since when was Goku ever human? He was born on Planet Vegeta but raised on Earth by Grandpa Gohan... >_>

Also anyone have any idea what Plunder is supposed to do? O_o

[soviet prince]

Anyone got any idea on the Goku card SJ previewed where it said Goku has the Human characteristic instead of just Saiyan? Since when was Goku ever human? He was born on Planet Vegeta but raised on Earth by Grandpa Gohan... >_>

Also anyone have any idea what Plunder is supposed to do? O_o

he may not have known he was sayian at the time so making him human or maybe becuse he lived as a human for so long he gets that trait. As far as plunder it may be the effect's name but I am hopeing it's a keyword for something else.

[CaMeRoN]

he may not have known he was sayian at the time so making him human or maybe becuse he lived as a human for so long he gets that trait. As far as plunder it may be the effect's name but I am hopeing it's a keyword for something else.

Small add-on to that; Goku's pseudo father knew he was from another planet but he was the only one. I can't remember if he told Master Roshi or not. Before the idea that beings from another planet existed, all the characters on earth assumed that Goku was a human being. If it wern't for his tail then he would look a lot like a human. On the other hand, animals appear to be able to interact with humans on an equal level, that might have further added to the notion that although Goku was different he was considered human.

People are questioning what Plunder might do. Some has taken a liking ot the idea that plunder is the ability to steal a dragonball from your opponent. Soviet Prince had posted the definition of plunder, which is to steal or thieve, with that in mind you could definately be taking something from your opponent. We have yet to acquire information as to how it works. Hopefully Bandai will give us some information pertaining to the rules this week.

[King Piccolo]

The way Roshi explains it after the arrival of Radditz it sounds like Gohan had told him that Goku was an alien, but I agree, he didn't know he was an alien and for all intents and purposes was raised human so why not?